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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Kachon123 said:
I don't understand. If they were both at 20% stamina, then would it not go down at the same rate? Queen's "redonk zoan stamina" would just let him have a higher stamina tank, but if they're both really tired, it's only a matter of who loses that stamina first, and it's common knowledge that it takes more energy throwing attacks than it is countering, so I'd assume Sanji would win the battle of attrition.
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Queen is the one who'd recover faster even if both fall at the exact same time. That's the whole point of his fruit's nature
 
Kachon123 said:
Queen literally said that he caught Sanji off gaurd 😭
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Let's ignore the times Sanji had to sneak attack an unfocused Queen and spam IJ on him while he was barely conscious though
 
Zoan/Hybrid Queen >= Base Onigashima Sanji

Diable Jambe >= Zoan/Hybrid Queen (since every time he used it, it did sizable damage and sent Queen flying)

Exoskeleton Sanji >> Zoan/Hybrid Queen

Zoan/Hybrid Queen with Vinsmoke Abilities = Exoskeleton Sanji.
 
Gear 5 awakening plus combined with strawhat could be a cool gear 6 transformation or another version of gear 5
 
Just realized something about Base Sanji making Queen bleed in chapter 1022. While it's still a good feat, I realized that Queen's mouth in his Hybrid form is his normal human mouth, meaning it's not shielded by his Zoan hide (which even Diable Jambe Onigashima Sanji had a hard time hurting).

So Sanji making Hybrid Queen bleed from the mouth is basically the same as him making Base Queen bleed. Still High 6-A, mind you.
 
Eseseso said:
So Sanji making Hybrid Queen bleed from the mouth is basically the same as him making Base Queen bleed. Still High 6-A, mind you.
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Is Zoro scarring Hybrid Kaido with Asura basically the same as scarring Base Kaido, since he cut him along his torso?
 
Eminiteable said:
and in the anime wasn't Sanji overpowered in that clash
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No, he used the power of King's sword as momentum to stomp Queen.

Even if he did overpower Sanji, that would still make Sanji's durability stronger than King's AP. If King was stronger in that clash, he would have cut Sanji's leg (like a knife vs bread), but because Sanji was more durable, he just hit him away instead (a knife vs a metal block).
 
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Kachon123 said:
Is Zoro scarring Hybrid Kaido with Asura basically the same as scarring Base Kaido, since he cut him along his torso?
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I mean...probably?

A scar is going to be a weak point, regardless.

But there is a difference between Queen, and ******* Kaido himself.

Scarring Base Kaido alone is still Yonko level. You're acting like this still isn't hella impressive.

He reopened the scar that 4 Scabbards with buso and 2 swords each couldn't reopen, and Kaido himself complemented the attack.

And this was an injured Zoro.
 
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Kachon123 said:
No, he used the power of King's kick as momentum to stomp Queen.

Even if he did overpower Sanji, that would still make Sanji's durability stronger than King's AP. If King was stronger in that clash, he would have cut Sanji's leg (like a knife vs bread), but because Sanji was more durable, he just hit him away instead (a knife vs a metal block).
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Meant in the sword clash, I remember Sanji getting knocked down.

Possibly
 
Eseseso said:
I mean...probably?

A scar is going to be a weak point, regardless.

But there is a difference between Queen, and ******* Kaido himself.

Scarring Base Kaido alone is still Yonko level. You're acting like this still isn't hella impressive.

He reopened the scar that 4 Scabbards with buso and 2 swords each couldn't reopen, and Kaido himself complemented the attack.

And this was an injured Zoro.
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What is Yonko level? It's all High 6-A dude
 
Eminiteable said:
Didn't seem that way to me, just seemed like he was pushed back and quickly recovered by the time he reached Queen as it didn't seem like Sanji was moving that fast (I.e being pushed back or using the momentum of King's attack) when he attacked Queen.
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This.
 
Although if the fight was accepted, it'd be a crazy feat for Queen to take King's flames without much damage.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Gear 5 awakening plus combined with strawhat could be a cool gear 6 transformation or another version of gear 5
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The next version of GEAR5/6 I see coming might be G4's compression+5. We already got a hint at it with Bajrang gun, so there's a genuine chance he might actually use it like that
 
SnookB said:
The next version of GEAR5/6 I see coming might be G4's compression+5. We already got a hint at it with Bajrang gun, so there's a genuine chance he might actually use it like that
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.... Idk... Seems like that was just similar to gear 4's king Kong gun but in gear 5... So I don't seem to understand why g4's compression will have anything to do with g5 or g6 🤔
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
.... Idk... Seems like that was just similar to gear 4's king Kong gun but in gear 5... So I don't seem to understand why g4's compression will have anything to do with g5 or g6 🤔
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Well basically Gear 5's entire body using Gear 4 on top of it. White hair, black limbs, compressed arms for extra striking strength. That'd more or less basically be G5+Boundman
 
SnookB said:
Well basically Gear 5's entire body using Gear 4 on top of it. White hair, black limbs, compressed arms for extra striking strength. That'd more or less basically be G5+Boundman
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Ain’t that Bajrung gun tho?

I guess I understand what you mean… you mean haki and devil fruit transformation like gear 4 but to gear 5 awakening instead of rubber

right? Or?
 
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