One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[14405User]

These statements exist

It's from Ace Novel right?
we accept that as canon see in Ace vsb there is that

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Nah. With Whitebeard it's very weird. They use the term "sekai", which also translates to "society". Whitebeard's statement seems more or less akin to "He can destroy all civilization" rather than actually world destruction.
Which is consistent with his fruit causing tsunamis (and drowning everything or whatever). Until there's statements that use "The earth" or "The Planet", it's pure speculation.

But what about the world itself

 

[SnookB]

But what about the world itself

That's the english translation- the japanese original word used is "Sekai" like I said, which can also mean "society" or "The universe." It's nothing concrete.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

That's the english translation- the japanese original world used is "Sekai" like I said, which can also mean "society" or "The universe." It's nothing concrete.

Bs, context exists

 

[SnookB]

Bs, context exists

Bs, it obviously means "the universe" 3-A god tiers CRT right now

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Bs, it obviously means "the universe" 3-A god tiers CRT right now

True and blackbeard has confirmed infinite gravity which is support

 

[14405User]

These statements exist

do you know what page this is? I want to check the Japanese version

 

[SnookB]

True and blackbeard has confirmed infinite gravity which is support

Gal 4:16 keep spitting king

 

[SnookB]

If anyone takes the 3-A joke seriously I'm fighting you at a denny's parking lot

 

[Magmag]

My brother in christ we accepted other verses hitting 5B and 6B off statements alone just because the statement itself was crystal clear.

yeah…ik.

This isn't up for debate until it's actually given/shown anyway, so might as well just leave it tbh. We're arguing over an assumption that doesn't exist yet

yeah…ik. there’s a clear distinction between capabilities and maxing out. but I’ll leave it at that.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

My brother in christ we accepted other verses hitting 5B and 6B off statements alone just because the statement itself was crystal clear.
This isn't up for debate until it's actually given/shown anyway, so might as well just leave it tbh. We're arguing over an assumption that doesn't exist yet

Dang, he really hit you with the "brother in Christ", huh?

 

[Magmag]

Dang, he really hit you with the "brother in Christ", huh?

 

[Kachon123]

I didn't see no dodge. Zoro slashed his gun and he shit himself.
It's that way in the anime too. "Dodge" is how Sanji moved out the way when Zoro cut the cliff. Queen just had a heart attack lol

Are you kidding me right now?

We literally see Queen go from holding his Exite Bullet Minigun, to having his hand up to dodge Zoro cutting the gun.

 

[SnookB]

Are you kidding me right now?

We literally see Queen go from holding his Exite Bullet Minigun, to having his hand up to dodge Zoro cutting the gun.

Doesn't look like he dodged to me tbh. Just panicked. But perceptions differ I guess. How'd that scene go in the anime?

 

[SnookB]

I have to share this because this dude doesn't miss

 

[Kachon123]

Doesn't look like he dodged to me tbh. Just panicked

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How'd that scene go in the anime?

He dodged it in the anime too.

 

[SnookB]

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He dodged it in the anime too.

Honestlly.. That does not look like a dodge. Dude was mid trigger-pull and just screeched out when his gun got cut in half. Zoro wasn't even aiming for him.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If anyone takes the 3-A joke seriously I'm fighting you at a denny's parking lot

I do

 

[SnookB]

I do

I can't beat a monkey in a fight this ain't fair

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I can't beat a monkey in a fight this ain't fair

Oh ok, you meant if it was a normal human

 

[Kachon123]

Honestlly.. That does not look like a dodge. Dude was mid trigger-pull and just screeched out when his gun got cut in half. Zoro wasn't even aiming for him.

Bro what are you talking about? That's a clear dodge.

 

[SnookB]

Bro what are you talking about? That's a clear dodge.

Nothing indicates it's a dodge. He didn't even time the swing or anything. He was too busy trying to shoot only for the cut to happen out of nowhere and catch him off guard.
Agree to disagree I guess-

 

[SnookB]

Oh ok, you meant if it was a normal human

Mere mortals like myself yes. Monkeys are scary

 

[Kachon123]

Nothing indicates it's a dodge. He didn't even time the swing or anything. He was too busy trying to shoot only for the cut to happen out of nowhere and catch him off guard.
Agree to disagree I guess-

He literally had his hand on the gun. The gun got sliced, Queen's hand was then in the air, and he avoided being cut. How is that not a dodge?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

It looks both like a dodge and him getting blasted to the side by the shockwave of the slash

 

[SnookB]

him getting blasted to the side by the shockwave of the slash

That's how I see it. His attention was on the trigger and there's no indication he was ready to dodge or even aware that an attack was coming.
I can see where Kachon's coming from, though.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

do you know what page this is?

No I don't know, I do have the jap texts tho

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/big-mom-vs-kaidou-the-rematch.136415/

Made another Big Mom V Kaidou match now that they're both updated. Figured I'd drop it here if anyone wants to comment.

 

[KingTempest]

now many characters get 6B.
does that mean that 6B is not God Tier in OP anymore?

no, it means there's a lot of god tiers, and they aren't drastically higher than the top tiers

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

GUYS, I HAVE REALIZED SOMETHING

Whitebeard has a white MOUSTACHE even when his hair is blond!

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Lol monkey funny

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Raizo HAS NINJA POWERS? WHY DID I ALWAYS REMEMBER HIM BEING A FAKE NINJA

 

[SnookB]

no, it means there's a lot of god tiers, and they aren't drastically higher than the top tiers

Hypothetically, if in Elbaf (if it happens at all as an arc) Big Mom's lifespan thing forces Luffy to have another form/state/anything at all idk that's like x4 or something over his wano rating.. Wouldn't that just make the previous wano god tiers "top" tiers, and create new God Tiers?
I doubt Kaido and the previous god tiers chain will be upscaled if Big Mom, Luffy or other characters (who'd reasonably scale to/above Luffy) get amps as well

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Ngl, as much as I enjoy watching Big Mom fight...

I do not want her in a third arc . This lady overstaying her welcome at this point.

 

[Isaiah_ZaMangaka]

If there's a "Planet level" statement within the verse eventually and it's repeated more than once it's acceptable regardless of whether or not the characters are three billion times weaker lmao.

This isn't just for One Piece mind you. I think it's unfair to do it for any verse if author/canon statements are clear as daylight. For now WB "destroying the world" is more or less just a statement because there are no means specified and "the world" can just mean civilization itself, not the planet. (Because let's be fair destroying the WG, a symbol of world justice, is basically destroying the foundation of the world)
If Blackbeard comes out and says he can "destroy the planet" then a lot of people have to cope and move on.

I've heard people (outside this wiki) say they'll drop One Piece if they become planetary

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I've heard people (outside this wiki) say they'll drop One Piece if they become planetary

They should've never picked it up then, plus whitebeard already is

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

They should've never picked it up then, plus whitebeard already is

Whitebeard is 9-C bro

 

[SnookB]

I've heard people (outside this wiki) say they'll drop One Piece if they become planetary

Oh damn
Hope the door doesn't hit their asses on the way out

 

[Eseseso]

I just wish the BM Pirates like Smoothie ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING in Wano