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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

no awesome background of the place (it just a massive abandoned ship)
Florian Triangle + Zombie crews + Moria lore is a full background.
Moria is pathetic
I mean, Moria is the one who created the whole crew except the 3 living ones, and he nearly killed them all. Hell, Doppel Man is one of the coolest hax in the series, and him and Oars pulled a 4-phase boss-fight.
and it's crew was forgettable sans Perona
People remember Absalom, even if he sucked, but he did set up Shiryu's power. Also, you already mentioned Ryuma. Plus, again, Oars.


For anyone who might want to know a couple other reasons Thriller Bark is important to the story:

-They had a bit of a mystery element, which was cool.
-Franky and Robin got to show off against full-on opponents for their first time on the
crew
-They did the "personality in another body" gimmick way better than Punk Hazard
-Lola set up Big Mom
-Moria set up Kaidou
-Zoro got Shusui
-Nightmare Luffy happened
-I believe it was the first Raid Boss fight
-Moria's probably gonna do some cool shit later, too
-Moria also had at least one, probably two, Rocks Pirates zombies, which allowed Luffy to
get the map he gave
-Teach was revealed to have beaten Ace and become a Warlord, and Ace was revealed to be imprisoned
-The Straw Hats nearly being defeated taught them that they needed to get stronger,
and Moria's trauma kinda showed that a TPK in the New World can happen to anyone
-Vivre cards were introduced.


But to be honest, overall, some might say that nothing happened.
 
I thought of a goofy little side story I'd like to see:


Since Sanji is mad at Jinbe for having a higher bounty than him and for the stuff in Fishman Island, he's always being super passive-aggressive toward Jinbe. Like, glaring at him, chopping fish aggressively while looking in his direction, that kind of thing. Meanwhile, Jinbe just looks at it like "Wow, that guy is SO dedicated to his craft! What an upstanding young man! I love fish! I should help him out!" and tries to help cook and clean, but Sanji's like "THIS ASSHOLE! He's trying to take my job!"

He sees him like, hanging out with the rest of the crew, who all enjoy hanging out with him. Like, Luffy shows off his new techniques to him, and Jinbe's sitting back laughing and clapping. Zoro's trying to hide it, but he thinks the move where Jinbe throws him is awesome, so whenever anything happens, he goes "ugh, Jinbe, looks like we have to do the Fastball Special again," and Jinbe's like "I mean, it's not that far away, you can just jump, but sure!" Nami talks to him a bunch since he's driving the ship and she's telling him where to go and what the weather is, and he's telling her what's he sees underwater with his Haki and such. Usopp is telling Jinbe stories, and he just assumes "Well, I've seen some crazy shit, some of these might be true!" and cackling his ass off. Chopper just instinctively enjoys hanging out with all his crewmates, and Jinbe carries Chopper around on his shoulder, and when they get tired and it's sunny out Chopper passes out on his stomach like a cat. Robin appreciates that Jinbe's a calm dude, and lets him read her books as long as he dries himself off first. Franky and him go swimming together, and he's confused because Franky keeps trying to arm-wrestle him, but is happy when he learns he was the adoptive son of Tom, who seems like the kinda guy who would come down to build stuff for the orphans back when he was on Fishman Island and Jinbe was like 3 or something. Brook sees Jinbe and Zoro doing the throw move and keeps trying to come up with a combo move the two of them can pull, and Jinbe's just happy to be included.

Sanji sees this, goes "Oh, so he's hanging out with Nami and Robin? This old pervert, I'll beat his ass! He'll never be the 2nd strongest! NO YOU ******* AREN'T, MOSS HEAD!" He challenges him to a cooking contest with the dish he's best at cooking, so in the first round, they catch fish, which Jinbe beats Sanji at, and in the second, they prepare it, and Sanji's able to do it faster, and then, in the final round, they cook it, and everyone's going "Damn, I can't decide, these are both good, they've each done a different thing with the limited amount of ingredients," but Jinbe's like "Hey, you don't have to pretend, he did way better!" and Sanji, taken aback, tries both, and says some shit like "Jinbe, I've misunderstood you..." because he's Sanji so he can probably detect the feelings someone had while cooking.

Cut to a week later, Jinbe's hauling some stuff he found in the ocean onto the ship. He gives everyone a cool little trinket he found on the ocean floor, then gives Sanji some cool plants he found, and Sanji goes "Ah, these ones are known for their strong flavor, we can grow them in the aquarium."

Cut again to those plants growing in there, and zoom out. Sanji's cooking a meal of some kind, and Jinbe's sitting next to him, cleaning the food and washing the dishes at the same time with his hydrokinesis. Someone walks in, asking when dinner's going to be. Both turn, and grin, determined.

"Five more minutes."
 
Florian Triangle + Zombie crews + Moria lore is a full background.
I know but there's so much thing that can be explored on Florian Triangle, I dunno, my hunger for mystery stuff wasn't satisfied there kekw
I mean, Moria is the one who created the whole crew except the 3 living ones, and he nearly killed them all. Hell, Doppel Man is one of the coolest hax in the series, and him and Oars pulled a 4-phase boss-fight.
Well I feel his zombie armies aren't great but his abilities are good to say, his character isn't tho
People remember Absalom, even if he sucked, but he did set up Shiryu's power. Also, you already mentioned Ryuma. Plus, again, Oars.
For Absalom, there's should more build up if you ask me, I mean Shiryu got his power is cool and Devon impersonation was cool too but still, we didn't even see his dead bodies, if Oda showed it, it would be more emotional but that just me
Oh yeah, I forgor Oars, that one is also awesome to say
For anyone who might want to know a couple other reasons Thriller Bark is important to the story:

-They had a bit of a mystery element, which was cool.
-Franky and Robin got to show off against full-on opponents for their first time on the
crew
-They did the "personality in another body" gimmick way better than Punk Hazard
-Lola set up Big Mom
-Moria set up Kaidou
-Zoro got Shusui
-Nightmare Luffy happened
-I believe it was the first Raid Boss fight
-Moria's probably gonna do some cool shit later, too
-Moria also had at least one, probably two, Rocks Pirates zombies, which allowed Luffy to
get the map he gave
-Teach was revealed to have beaten Ace and become a Warlord, and Ace was revealed to be imprisoned
-The Straw Hats nearly being defeated taught them that they needed to get stronger,
and Moria's trauma kinda showed that a TPK in the New World can happen to anyone
-Vivre cards were introduced.


But to be honest, overall, some might say that nothing happened.
I say point 2, 4, 5, and 12 are the one I like from this arc
As for Raid boss fight, to be fair I'm not a fan of "team fight' type of battle, doesn't mean I despise it, since Oars battle was great to say (and it done awesome in Wano with Kaidou and Big Mom vs Luffy/Law/Kid/Killer/Zoro), it just that I prefer one on one battle

Keep in mind that worst doesn't mean it's trash, I just feel it's the weakest arc so far, so each to their own in the end lel
 
The truth behind Luffy's goals 🙈...
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I have absolutely 0 context, but me still understand 🐵
 
Is there a way to calculate how many pills Hody took after taking Luffy’s Red Hawk? Maybe based on his palm size and how many he could hold in a handful? That would probably be able to buff a ton of characters way higher.
 
Maybe based on his palm size and how many he could hold in a handful?
you know, was going to try and do this real quick to see the estimate results... But it's much more difficult than it seems 🙉

Getting accurate measurements to pixel scale hody's or Ikaros hand size to find pill size seem quite difficult and time consuming to figure out the best method
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you know, was going to try and do this real quick to see the estimate results... But it's much more difficult than it seems 🙉

Getting accurate measurements to pixel scale hody's or Ikaros hand size to find pill size seem quite difficult and time consuming to figure out the best method
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You could probably get away with using the largest hands of a human (that man’s hands are ****** massive) and the average size of a pill tbh.
 
Just to ask, are Issho meteors's feats still usable or they are still rejected because they still violate the KE standards?

Are are the sky splitting feats too rejected?
 
Just to ask, are Issho meteors's feats still usable or they are still rejected because they still violate the KE standards?

Are are the sky splitting feats too rejected?
If they were removed because of KE standards, then probably stil invalid as nothing has changed regarding that. The sky splitting feats were removed because of issues with the method, I'll track down the thread after I get back from holiday.
 
The sky splitting feats were removed because of issues with the method, I'll track down the thread after I get back from holiday.
If I remember correctly, wasn't that due to the atmosphere being too thin because OP's Earth is much larger than our own? Yet, since we now accepted that the atmosphere extends dozens of thousands of kilometers in altitude, wouldn't that prove that the air is just as dense as normal, if not more?
If they were removed because of KE standards, then probably stil invalid as nothing has changed regarding that.
You mean they violate KE because they moved FTL or how?
If I remember correctly, it's because the destruction shown/calculated contradicted the kinetic energy calculation, making then invalid. But there are a few details that weren't taken into account (at least as far as I'm aware):
  1. Issho's multiple meteors on Dressrosa never ended up directly hitting the island, as Doflamingo's Birdcage likely absorbed most of the force while slicing them all, making them nowhere near as destructive as they could have been.
  2. Issho's meteor on Green Bit was countered by both Law and Doffy. Law used his Room to slice it in half, and then Doffy used his strings to slice it even further. So, like the example above, they likely nullified a portion of the kinetic energy the meteor had.
If that the case then there wouldn't be any direct contradition that prevent them from be used.
 
If I remember correctly, it's because the destruction shown/calculated contradicted the kinetic energy calculation, making then invalid. But there are a few details that weren't taken into account (at least as far as I'm aware):
  1. Issho's multiple meteors on Dressrosa never ended up directly hitting the island, as Doflamingo's Birdcage likely absorbed most of the force while slicing them all, making them nowhere near as destructive as they could have been.
  2. Issho's meteor on Green Bit was countered by both Law and Doffy. Law used his Room to slice it in half, and then Doffy used his strings to slice it even further. So, like the example above, they likely nullified a portion of the kinetic energy the meteor had.
If that the case then there wouldn't be any direct contradition that prevent them from be used.
yee then they should still be fine to calculate the KE for them
 
yee then they should still be fine to calculate the KE for them
Probably, like Luffy's Bajrang Gun its literally calc to be in the two digits Exatons but does looks like his attack caused destruction comparable to his direct attack?

No, but it can be argue that Kaido took most of the force behind it when he was hit, and so Issho's meteors can be explained in similar way.
 
Issho's multiple meteors on Dressrosa never ended up directly hitting the island, as Doflamingo's Birdcage likely absorbed most of the force while slicing them all, making them nowhere near as destructive as they could have been.
Doffy's strings did not absorb that much. I'll explain more in a few days if that's okay.
 
Probably, like Luffy's Bajrang Gun its literally calc to be in the two digits Exatons but does looks like his attack caused destruction comparable to his direct attack?

No, but it can be argue that Kaido took most of the force behind it when he was hit, and so Issho's meteors can be explained in similar way.
that's like... Common sense I feel like, the attack didn't directly hit the ground

There's literally nothing to argue against by trying to bring up the destructive AOE

Both Bajrang Gun and the Meteors never directly connected to any land for the destructive AOE to happen based on the KE
Doffy's strings did not absorb that much. I'll explain more in a few days if that's okay.
It did tho...? It completely stopped it's movement and began free falling instead
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I'll wait and see the validity of your explanation tho
 
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Not far off suggests that, at the very least, the Q isn't 100% incorrect in believing so, which to me reads more it's likely than not that they are.

Though is Kizaru > Aokiji really a controversial take?
 
What's the best/your fav hair design in one piece? (Any version of the characters)


For me I guess young dragon hair look cool
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