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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Kachon123 said:
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Maybe you should catch up to the anime, or even the manga first 😂
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????

The blood don't exist to you?

your trolling is going way too far with this admiral glazing, never ever seen you this bad for even sanji

You should catch up with stopping being a weak troll
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
????

The blood don't exist to you?

your trolling is going way too far with this admiral glazing, never ever seen you this bad for even sanji

You should catch up with stopping being a weak troll
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So small blood from a cut = completely fine, but small blood from being squeezed isn't?

Like I'm not saying that Kizaru did any major damage to Luffy but don't lie and say that either of them did vastly more damage to each other with individual attacks than the other, especially when it's a literal point made that Kizaru was more mentally injured than physically by far. I mean the dude literally got up right after the White Star Gun to do a Uber Eats run for Luffy just to go back on the ground to act injured again for Saturn.
 
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Kachon123 said:
So small blood from a cut = completely fine
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Small scratch from heat that then doesn't exist afterwards, literally next panels...
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but small blood from being squeezed isn't?
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Small blood? Bro is literally spewing out blood and drooling blood from his insides by getting his torso squeezed and crushed... That's fatal levels of damage.

Kachon123 said:
especially when it's a literal point made that he was more mentally injured than physically by far.
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he was soo mentally injured that he didn't realize he was physically hurt... That doesn't mean he wasn't still damaged

Kachon123 said:
I mean the dude literally got up right after the White Star Gun to do a Uber Eats run for Luffy just to go back on the ground to act injured again for Saturn.
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You don't even know what happened... Plus it definitely was not right after, go reread and look how long the whole thing was until kizaru gave him food

Bro said "act" injured...
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
You don't even know what happened... Plus it definitely was not right after, go reread and look how long the whole thing was until kizaru gave him food
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You mean the 8 chapter Kuma flashback??? You're so unserious bro 😂. The chapter after he got sent to the ground he fed Luffy.
 
Kachon123 said:
You mean the 8 chapter Kuma flashback??? You're so unserious bro 😂. The chapter after he got sent to the ground he fed Luffy.
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why are you lying soo much...?
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... Yee I don't need to send any more pages
 
Kachon123 said:
Kizaru: "Saturn I failed you... also I won't be able to get up for a while"
Also Kizaru: *gets up after saying this and moves so fast that nobody can see him in order to feed Luffy
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Was he "acting" damaged here as well?
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Kizaru after a long situation when things are getting really dire, kizaru sleathly easily gives Luffy food and sits back down... If he acted hurt he would've be laying on the ground still
 
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kachon has done akainu, aokiji and now kizaru again... Let's say what happens when fujitora and greenbull comes on screen again 🙉
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
why are you lying soo much...?
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... Yee I don't need to send any more pages
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1. White Star Gun
2. Saturn appears
3. Bonney stabs Saturn
4. Saturn grabs Bonney
5. Franky grabs Luffy
6. Luffy gets fed by Kizaru

This could not have happened in any more than 2 minutes.
 
Kachon123 said:
1. White Star Gun
2. Saturn appears
3. Bonney stabs Saturn
4. Saturn grabs Bonney
5. Franky grabs Luffy
6. Luffy gets fed by Kizaru

This could not have happened in any more than 2 minutes.
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Missed some more
7. Saturn hurts bonney
8. Saturn trying to squeeze Bonney to death
9. Bonney tries becoming nika
10. Kizaru gives food to luffy


and yee they definitely wasn't talking all that time as well

Was definitely around 5 mins if not more
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Missed some more
7. Saturn hurts bonney
8. Saturn trying to squeeze Bonney to death
9. Bonney tries becoming nika
10. Kizaru gives food to luffy


and yee they definitely wasn't talking all that time as well

Was definitely around 5 mins if not more
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The first 3 you listed happened all while Saturn was grabbing Bonney and I already listed Kizaru giving Luffy food.
 
Kachon123 said:
The first 3 you listed happened all while Saturn was grabbing Bonney and I already listed Kizaru giving Luffy food.
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I swear you like to derail and argue the most useless shit, you're still ignoring my past comments in kizaru getting damaged from luffy and spewing out blood

If you want me to do an actual list of all the actions until kizaru did something then it would become way higher than 10, I was just adding more to say you are being disingenuous. You said kizaru feed luffy right after getting hit by white star... Your comment debunked him doing that right after.
 
I still think Luffy is above Kizaru and I honestly just don't care about the food thing because it was shown he could restart his heart in Wano and it should have been no different in Egghead, it logistically makes the most sense if he only couldn't do it there for plot reasons, so in a real fight that wouldn't matter.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
I still think Luffy is above Kizaru
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That isn't even a debate

It's literally stated...
Before 00: Participates in the raid on Onigashima and fights Kaido one-on-one.
Before 00: Activates "Gear 5" and defeats Kaido.
Before 00: Bounty rises to 3 billion Berries, making him one of the Four Emperors.
Before 00: Shares his "Dream's End" with his comrades.
Before 00: Encounters Bonney and lands on Egghead.
Before 00: Re-matches CP0's Rob Lucci and overwhelms him with "Gear 5."
Before 00: Barricades himself in Egghead, using "Greed" as a shield.
Before 00: Re-matches Kizaru and is more than evenly matched
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and the statement to me would be either base or gear 4 luffy, as it doesn't mention gear 5 even tho it does with the others
 
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I still think Luffy is above Kizaru and I honestly just don't care about the food thing because it was shown he could restart his heart in Wano and it should have been no different in Egghead, it logistically makes the most sense if he only couldn't do it there for plot reasons, so in a real fight that wouldn't matter.
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Like him not spamming advanced armament+conqueror haki as much in Egghead as he did in Wano for some odd reason
 
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Changed zunesha's height again... 10km but still 2km in length...
 
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Fireld said:
Like him not spamming advanced armament+conqueror haki as much in Egghead as he did in Wano for some odd reason
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Probably to preserve Kizaru's reputation, didn't want him to really go down in this arc or get embarrassed/overwhelmed by anyone, but also didn't really want the same for Luffy, so he made it so both could be excused.
Kizaru being mentally nerfed and Luffy not using Advanced Haki.
If Luffy used Advanced Haki on a mentally nerfed Kizaru, he'd have easily won.
And if Kizaru went all out on Luffy while he wasn't using Advanced Haki, then Kizaru would have easily won.
And if both went all out, well there's no exact telling who'd win, though my money's on Luffy.
In any case, there'd be a clear victor in all three of those outcomes, and that doesn't seem to be what Oda wanted. It seems like he wanted to make Kizaru an ally of sorts, or at least somewhat of a good guy, so him losing probably wasn't ideal at that point, especially since he was also trying to establish the Gorosei as a threat there and build up Saturn's death.
 
I'm trying to think of some agenda names for every admiral. So far I've got:

Pizzaru, Lose-an, Blockainu, StompsGoku, Dong, Wujitora, "Can only beat up Queen"-bull, and, of course, I dare not corrupt Zephyr's name or he'll reach through the screen and punch me.
 
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I'm trying to think of some agenda names for every admiral. So far I've got:

Pizzaru, Lose-an, Blockainu, StompsGoku, Dong, Wujitora, "Can only beat up Queen"-bull, and, of course, I dare not corrupt Zephyr's name or he'll reach through the screen and punch me.
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Mentally nerfed, mentally nerfed, holding back, old, does not exist at this point, W, Greenbull didn't want to solo the RHP and ruin Film Red's promotion (Fact)

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You know... I read the past old takes people were making from this thread and I was like... How the f were people soo wrong and soo confident with their bad takes?

But then I came back to this page and I said... Wait nvm... It's still like that 🙉

Like come on... That is insanity 😓 why is OP like this, pls oda create something like OPM and bring back the stats tiering, I really can't deal with the amount of bs everywhere when it comes to OP 😅

Like there are times people all agree on something but then... The slightest of new information/thing happens, everyone 180s instantly and start creating sooooo much headcanon... Like I don't think I've ever seen that in any verse, like there's a thing for OP specifically called agenda for many characters/groups 🙉 wtf
 
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