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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

KingTempest said:
She never fought Kaku's base form so idky that matters
And she said it in direct reference to Lucci's base, which is why she used seastone... on Lucci's base
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But she doesn't refer to their base, she knows they have DFs and that they frequently use them.
Lucci just didn't use his there because he's a dumbass, but her using seastone means she doesn't want them to use their dfs.
Kachon123 said:
What?
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How is he H6A with one sword and 0 Haki.
 
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KingTempest said:
You do know seastone weakens DF users with and without their DFs active right?
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..That's the point.
She still needed something that can stop them from using their DFs effectively.
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Since Luffy used Gear 5th this arc, do you guy's think we'll see Zoro and Sanji pull out KoH and Ifrit Jambe as well?
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I highly doubt it.
It seems Luffy only used G5 for Vegapunk to explain DFs.
Though Sanji might use IJ because he activated his exoskeleton in 1077.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Hmm?
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As in while his stretch limit could be hundreds of kilometers, he wouldn't likely be able to use that massive stretch range in battle effectively.

Basically one of the main reasons some people would have against it is because they'll assume we're saying that Luffy could punch someone from the other side of a continent with this even though this is for how much he can stretch, not for how far he can fight someone.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
As in while his stretch limit could be hundreds of kilometers, he wouldn't likely be able to use that massive stretch range in battle effectively.

Basically one of the main reasons some people would have against it is because they'll assume we're saying that Luffy could punch someone from the other side of a continent with this even though this is for how much he can stretch, not for how far he can fight someone.
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Pistol should be able to reach this far though, no?
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
As in while his stretch limit could be hundreds of kilometers, he wouldn't likely be able to use that massive stretch range in battle effectively.

Basically one of the main reasons some people would have against it is because they'll assume we're saying that Luffy could punch someone from the other side of a continent with this even though this is for how much he can stretch, not for how far he can fight someone.
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Don't think that makes any sense, he can stretch both of his arms around 72 gum gums... If he can stretch that far why can't he attack from that far?

Oda even says luffy himself is trying to be able to stretch to 100 gum gums, so I don't see how luffy wouldn't be able to just stretch that and punch
 
Kachon123 said:
Pistol should be able to reach this far though, no?
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MonkeyOfLife said:
Don't think that makes any sense, he can stretch both of his arms around 72 gum gums... If he can stretch that far why can't he attack from that far?

Oda even says luffy himself is trying to be able to stretch to 100 gum gums, so I don't see how luffy wouldn't be able to just stretch that and punch
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You know what, you guys are right.
 
Could cosmic distances be interpreted as distance from the One Piece planet to the moon, or at least able to reach outside of the planet's Exosphere?
 
Btw I don't understand why King wears that suit all the time.
I can't imagine it's too comfortable and it's not like people are gonna come after him for his Lunarian genes given how strong and durable he is.
Plus he's already guarded by one of the strongest characters in the series, not to mention people will always see his black wings and the flame on his back anyway.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Btw I don't understand why King wears that suit all the time.
I can't imagine it's too comfortable and it's not like people are gonna come after him for his Lunarian genes given how strong and durable he is.
Plus he's already guarded by one of the strongest characters in the series, not to mention people will always see his black wings and the flame on his back anyway.
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The Marines would still be after him.
 
Kachon123 said:
Prior to his upgrade, he was clashing with X-Drake with one sword and no haki.



Base Kaku scales to at least Base Drake
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True (and Base Drake backscales from Base Yamato and scales to Apoo), and as the 3rd panel shows he made Apoo dodge.

KingTempest said:
Doesn't disqualify the logic that the same would apply for Awakened Kaku. We didn't see how she did it, but if she said he's strong and needed to dispatch him similar to how she did Lucci, it'd require it
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Fair
KingTempest said:
I'm not a fan of "it would've been hard cause of how strong you guys are" scaling to them
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IIRC In the official translation, she openly said she wasn't stupid enough to fight them head-on.
Damage3245 said:
Aramaki clapped him.
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He was tired and almost certainly had flames off.
 
Ngl there's 0 proof King and Queen would lose to Aramaki now besides narrative suggesting they would, considering Aramaki has little to no feats.
Though he did capture Weevil through unknown means.
 
King and Queen still being heavily injured when practically everyone else involved in the raid was already walking around like normal including Zoro who was literally fighting his demons to stay alive after the King fight would be weird. They’re also Ancient Zoans so they should be recovering much faster anyways.

And either way Aramaki seemed confident that Yonko commanders should be beneath him.
 
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TheMonkeMan said:
Why?
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His LS is much higher than Kings which would allow him to constrict him and use pressure to target his insides similar to how Brachiosnakus does.

His nutrients absorption ability is pretty broken.

His devil fruit is also broken, as it allows him to revive himself from virtually any injury to full HP.
 
Kachon123 said:
His LS is much higher than Kings which would allow him to constrict him and use pressure to target his insides similar to how Brachiosnakus does.
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Suree..
Kachon123 said:
His nutrients absorption ability is pretty broken.
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Which is reliant on stabbing him, he can't do this if King has his flame on.
Kachon123 said:
His devil fruit is also broken, as it allows him to revive himself from virtually any injury to full HP.
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Based on what, him transferring to another plant after Momo burnt him?
King can just burnt the plants around him as well.
Godernet said:
King and Queen still being heavily injured when practically everyone else involved in the raid was already walking around like normal including Zoro who was literally fighting his demons to stay alive after the King fight would be weird. They’re also Ancient Zoans so they should be recovering much faster anyways.

And either way Aramaki seemed confident that Yonko commanders should be beneath him.
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Didn't Zoro and the others still have bandages while they watched Aramaki fight the Scabbards?
Also King and Queen seemed to be in the reformed prison which means they probably didn't get a ton of medical care.
Plus King's wing was clipped, his sword was broken, Queen's arm was broken, etc.
 
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