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Bellamy is marked with a "Do Not Add Yet" on the sandbox. Any reason?
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One Piece: Early Post-Timeskip and God Tiers AP Revision
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Forgot about that. It was to handle the scaling discrepancies between him and the G3rd Buso dura Luffy stuff
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6-A and 4.97c*. But don't bring up speed in here
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Anyways I'm waiting for char before we implement anything or before we go straight into the Wano CRT
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Will go through the rest of the sandbox this afternoon for anything else that stands out. (Busy right now)
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(It's 5 in the morning where I'm at. No rush at all)
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Few things about the sandbox that could need correcting:
- Dressrosa Gear 4th's durability has a typo "higher with Gear 4th: Boundman" higher needs to be bold.
- Dressrosa Sanji's Diable Jambe's justification should mention the eagle bazooka specifically rather than Gear 2nd in general as it specifies how strong he is.
- Issho's tier needs to be changed to High 6-C instead of 6-C+
- Law's tier needs to be changed to High 6-C instead of 6-C+
- Overdosed Hyouzou's durability needs to be changed to 6-C+ instead of 6-C
- Monet's durability section should include her ice walls that scale to High 6-C via the Hawk Gattling
- Caesar's durability would be 6-C as Nami's lightning split between three would still be that instead of High 7-A
- Pica's physicals would scale to High 6-C in AP & Durability to Nitoryu Zoro.
- Doflamingo's tier needs to be changed to High 6-C instead of 6-C+. Doflamingo's base durability could probably mention the eagle bazooka instead of gear 2nd in general for the same reasons as Sanji.
- Gild Tesoro's durability section has a typo "Large Island with Golden Tesoro"
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thanks
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Another thing about the sandbox, shouldn’t Law w/ Kikoru in his Striking Strength be High 6-C for the justification listed instead of 6-C+
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Also, Cavendish's sword Durandal should have the same durability as Law.
Chopper's durability should be "Mountain level, Island level+ with Monster Point, Large Island Level with Guard Point".
And since WCI G3 Luffy is High 6-C, everyone who scales above Amande (like WCI Sanji, the monsters, and the Vinsmoke siblings) should scale accordingly to High 6-C as well.
And now that Black Knight has High 6-C durability, can Kyros (and thus Diamante and Mil Fleur Robin) now scale to it?
I mean, Kyros still damaged the Black Knight, so he should be comparable IMO
Chopper's durability should be "Mountain level, Island level+ with Monster Point, Large Island Level with Guard Point".
And since WCI G3 Luffy is High 6-C, everyone who scales above Amande (like WCI Sanji, the monsters, and the Vinsmoke siblings) should scale accordingly to High 6-C as well.
And now that Black Knight has High 6-C durability, can Kyros (and thus Diamante and Mil Fleur Robin) now scale to it?
I mean, Kyros still damaged the Black Knight, so he should be comparable IMO
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No. Because High 6-C is for Luffy w/ Armament Haki
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The entire black knight created the birdcage which scales to the High 6-C value. Hawk gattling scales as it destroyed the BK beyond repair while Kyros cut its head off but it's was nowhere near destroyed.
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This question should only take a few seconds: do we regard Wci DJ Sanji as equal to Gear 3rd (w/haki) or not?
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Actually, why does Luffy’s tier have this: “far higher with Gear 4th: Tankman”. Isn’t Tankman stuff included in his Strongest Attacks justifications
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It does
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On the sandbox it just says his durability is higher as Hakuba.
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This looks a little bit awkwardly worded.
It might be better as:
I don't think it has been suggested that fullbody Haki would be a huge increase in durability to the point of being "far higher".
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Vergo's specifically should be in my opinion. Doffy hypes it up A LOT even though he knew Law was surviving that exchange for a while. "Your severing powers can do nothing to the strength of his haki." and "You're no match by a yardstick." after Vergo went fullbody armament- Every statement from Doflamingo makes it sound like his durability with fullbody haki is leagues beyond his base.
I'd say compared to his base it's definitely "far higher", it's just that Law was simply stronger with his DF by then.
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Doflamingo just mentions Vergo's Haki in general, not fullbody Haki, and he only had an audio link to the scene. He can't see Vergo turning on fullbody Haki.
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Vergo is known for his fullbody Haki. He wouldn't know Vergo turned his Haki on AT ALL regardless, so it's safe to say he's talking about what Vergo is known for best- his fullbody armament.
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Do you have a statement, a feat, an implication, an SBS statement, a vivre card statement, or anything that says so?
If not, stop bringing it up
It's definitely implied, or else there'd be no reason of using fullbody haki in general except just to waste haki
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I agree. + Vergo was his right hand iirc so Doffy def did know and implied about his Fullbody
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Fullbody Haki would provide protection over the entire body at once instead of a selective area, which is one possible reason to use it. And while I think that it could be likely for it to be an even stronger version than normal Haki coating, there isn't any confirmation that it is "far higher" which suggests a massive level of superiority.
He wouldn't know if Vergo was using Haki, but he knows that Vergo would be using Haki to defend himself from Law's DF.
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Far higher than his base, not far higher than his previous Haki usage.
I only said far higher w/ fullbody because he already got higher with regular haki
And I quote.
"Aren't you pissing off Vergo, who's right in front of you!? Way back then...!! Don't you remember what happened then!? What happened when you enraged him1? Traumatic wasn't it!? Not some-thing so easily forgotten, the true terror of Vergo!!"
Doflamingo knows that Vergo is in his super pissed off state, which means he knows he's using fullbody armament Haki, which is pretty much what he says happens when Vergo's mad.
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Okay, I suppose Vergo's section is worded fine then though it still seems unconfirmed to me.
Generally speaking the other profiles look alright.
Generally speaking the other profiles look alright.
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Typo for Katakuri's striking strength "far higher+"
Same for Lao G, his tier section states "likely higher" but that's not present in his attack potency section.
Pica's "even higher with Armament Haki" should probably be changed to just higher.
Same for Lao G, his tier section states "likely higher" but that's not present in his attack potency section.
Pica's "even higher with Armament Haki" should probably be changed to just higher.
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Btw, should we really put Tankman under "Strongest Attacks"?
Also, for post-Kata Luffy Boundman's durability, it says "Far more sturdier than before".
And since Surume tanked a rocket launcher from Franky without being badly hurt, perhaps his durability could scale to that.
Also, since Base Wadatsumi is half of Jinbei (who is 19.9 gigatons), shouldn't he (and Surume) be 6-C?
Lastly, for no-Haki G3, since it is clearly far above his early WCI base lvl of 39.8 gigatons, we can probably upscale it to baseline 6-C+ since the multiplier between 39.8 gigatons and 52.15 gigatons is only 1.31x, and there is no doubt that even a no-haki G3 should easily be above base Luffy by that amount.
Also, for post-Kata Luffy Boundman's durability, it says "Far more sturdier than before".
And since Surume tanked a rocket launcher from Franky without being badly hurt, perhaps his durability could scale to that.
Also, since Base Wadatsumi is half of Jinbei (who is 19.9 gigatons), shouldn't he (and Surume) be 6-C?
Lastly, for no-Haki G3, since it is clearly far above his early WCI base lvl of 39.8 gigatons, we can probably upscale it to baseline 6-C+ since the multiplier between 39.8 gigatons and 52.15 gigatons is only 1.31x, and there is no doubt that even a no-haki G3 should easily be above base Luffy by that amount.
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It did have that rebound that shot Cracker, ko'd him, destroyed a line of his cracker soldiers-
Seems like a "strongest attack" to me. Although it IS based off defense at first.
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The technique is a "strongest attack". The form by itself isn't.
It is
He didn't tank it. I already said this,
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#1 "Since it's clear" no it's not, especially when we backscale base w/ no haki from G3rd with Haki
#2 1.31 is too much to upscale
#3 Stop trying to upscale everything
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Anything else?
Or can we start putting these in.
And should we wait till everything's in before we start Wano or no
Or can we start putting these in.
And should we wait till everything's in before we start Wano or no
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Maybe to avoid multitasking these revisions should be implemented first, at least so Wano's are all one straight shot (far from a simple one, but hey-) instead of going back and forth with this sandbox?
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