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One Piece Discussion Thread #5

I see it but I don't buy it.

Seastone is like solid water and Luffy lost all of his muscle control when underwater and even worse when he's touching the Seastone. It's not a matter of strength but a weakness to all DF's users that get totally unmobile when touching it and Luffy is incapable of even stand on his feet no matter how strong he is.

Strength doesn't overcome hax (at least outside Dragon Ball verse).
 
If Luffy was touching more than just a pair of shackles made from Seastone then he might be completely depleted of strength.

But even Robin was able to walk around while wearing Seastone Cuffs, and Mr. 1 could carry a heavy piece of wood while restrained by Seastone.

So it clearly doesn't remove all strength in small enough amounts.
 
That's why I'm just quoting Luffy because a single touch of Smoker's jutte or Luffy simply touching the cage bars made his body faint with no effort. Are you going to tell me that the surface of the jutte over Luffy's chest is bigger than handcuffs around the arms?
 
But it clearly does. Luffy in Alabasta was unable to move when touched with Seastone. Yet Robin in Enies Lobby was able to walk and talk just fine. Ace was able to move around and talk too. Marco gets shot after having seastone put on him amd walks around just fine. All of these people are much stronger than Alabasta Luffy so the power left after would be far greater than him.

Also this argument would mean you think Robin, Ace and Marco all have resistance to power nullification. Which is never shown outside of there stamina and remaining strength. Even though the main thing seastone takes away is your DF powers.
 
Luffy is by far the most affected one (for some reason) but in this case he's looking good (for some reason too).

I'll drop the subject. I'm not in the mood to argue about nothing today.
 
A new set of cards came out for the Vivre Card Datatbook today. It looks like it covers the Whitebeard Pirates and Amazon Lily.
 
Yup. Looks like we have names for Jozu's and Marco's Devil Fruits. Possibly more.
 
From what I've read so far it confirms which of the WB pirates have which types of haki and also height and ages for the commanders
 
It gives us both Jozu and Marco DF. Jozu has the Kira Kira no Mi and Marco has the Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Phoenix. They both along with Vista are confirmed to use Observation and Armament Haki.

Also Jinbe is confirmed to be a Straw Hat but we all knew that. His bounty is 438 Million Belly. He also uses both Observation and Armament Haki.

Edit: Boa Hancock is confirmed to use all three types of Haki.
 
Yeah the Ace only using Conquerors is intresting because the Ace novels have him awaken Armament in it. Oda helped to write the novel IIRC. How tall is Big Mom again?
 
Nevermind Big Mom is 28' 10 1/2". She's almost 7 feet taller than Whitebeard.

How tall do you think Kaido is?
 
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hey about this attack(kizaru) on macro, why it's not sol, and if it is then macro feat is outlier, if yes then why? Pls explain
(I am still catching up with op so don't know about it)
 
From what I remember people agreed to look at Marcos feats when the datebook of him comes out
 
Damage3245 said:
And Ace is only listed as having Conqueror's Haki. No mention of Armament or Observation Haki.
I find absurd that Ace can only use Conqueror Haki despire be a Top Yonkou Commander.

Nearly all high tiers in New World know to use both Armament and Observation Haki, there is no way that he doesn't had such abilities and still becoming a major powerhouse in WB's crew.
 
Ace had his DF when he awakened his armament haki in the ace novel.

I don't see why we wouldn't be able to calc Marco's feat now.

Edit: Vivi is confirmed to be a former Straw Hat and is 18. I don't know if that's pre-timeskip or post-timeskip.
 
But those attack are not laser, that just a light-based attack

Iirc laser is like this
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It's not in straight line, unless that attack specifically mention at sol
 
Hmm well I'm kinda surprised he doesn't have Kenbunshoku considering how easy it is to obtain.


Edit : Seems like this isn't everything we're getting judging by the dude's Twitter.

"To clarify, this is likely not going to include the additional details yet, just the basic data from the profile box. That'll likely come soon enough after this when higher quality scans come out. "
 
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