- 21,470
- 30,790
Shouldn't be a short CRT, yet it's OP, and we've seen how that's been lately so w/e.
When it comes to combination attacks, we have strict standards on them.
So yeah.
In One Piece, we are given a statement of Oars' attack power getting split in half when one of his arms are restricted (Stephen's translation), Chapter 477.
This can be taken for all humans in One Piece since Chopper mainly studies humans, and he's basing this logic off of the human biology, which he is an expert with.
This was stated after the showing of Oars' Gomu Gomu no Bazooka in 476, where Oars uses 2 arms for his attack.
And when it comes to precision, especially with a character 67 meters tall, it wouldn't have that much weight on an attack.
So Oars is one piece of proof for 2 limbs = 2x 1 limb power wise, which seemingly supports the point because the other limb could count as a separate organism attacking.
Luffy says that when he breaks the spear, the power of the weapon is split in half (Stephen's translation), Chapter 65.
The weapons aren't inside one another, they're beside each other, yet when they attack a foe and explode their force is combined, proven from when 1 is broken, the power is halved.
So Krieg is one piece of proof that 2 united weapons = 2x 1 weapon power wise.
When he uses 2 swords, its called 72 Pound Phoenix/Cannon.
When he uses 1 sword, its called 36 Pound Phoenix/Cannon.
People could easily say "it's dependent on the amount of swords", which is a valid argument, but it isn't true.
When he is alongside Luffy, who has no swords at all, he initially dubs his attack 216 pound siege cannon. They only call it 300 because saying 216 is too long.
Luffy is stated by the databooks (Databook Yellow to be exact) to be his equal in power. The only thing that makes Luffy and Zoro have comparable that would make him double his attack name is their attack power.
So this proves that the naming of Zoro's pound cannons are from the force of the attacks being added up. Luffy, Zoro's equal, thinks of doubling the number behind Zoro's attack, and the only thing that'd make him do that is power.
Thriller Bark, Zoro got Shusui, which was stated to be several times stronger than his previous sword's strength. On a lowball 3x, making it 3x36 + 36 + 36, or 180.
The other MTrio members are portrayed to be comparable to Zoro in that instance, making them both additional 180s, or at least around that level. That'd make the attack 540 in total (which is a long name, which could be the reason why they rounded the name to 600).
Another showing of combined attacks = combined power.
When it comes to combination attacks, we have strict standards on them.
Multipliers
A multiplier is generally some number a different number is multiplied with to get a new number. For our VS Battles use we more specifically refer to a number as multiplier, if that number is multiplied with some statistic of a character or its attacks to get a new statistic for the character...
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For combination attacks, similar standards to multipliers apply. It should not be assumed that a combination attack performed by multiple characters has Attack Potency equal to the sum of the participating characters Attack Potency unless there is specific evidence for it.
So yeah.
Disclaimer
We mainly use Stephen Paul's translations prior to chapter 546 because of the bad Viz translations, and from him being the new translator for Viz after the timeskip, his translations have been deemed the official ones (since technically he is Viz for One Piece).Example 1
In real life, we know that attacking with 2 arms wouldn't be the force of 1 arm x 2 because of the issues of precision and such. Please don't argue with me on this point, cause I'm trying to disprove it for the series.In One Piece, we are given a statement of Oars' attack power getting split in half when one of his arms are restricted (Stephen's translation), Chapter 477.
This can be taken for all humans in One Piece since Chopper mainly studies humans, and he's basing this logic off of the human biology, which he is an expert with.
This was stated after the showing of Oars' Gomu Gomu no Bazooka in 476, where Oars uses 2 arms for his attack.
And when it comes to precision, especially with a character 67 meters tall, it wouldn't have that much weight on an attack.
So Oars is one piece of proof for 2 limbs = 2x 1 limb power wise, which seemingly supports the point because the other limb could count as a separate organism attacking.
Example 2
Don Krieg uses a spear and a bomb shield attached to the spear.Luffy says that when he breaks the spear, the power of the weapon is split in half (Stephen's translation), Chapter 65.
The weapons aren't inside one another, they're beside each other, yet when they attack a foe and explode their force is combined, proven from when 1 is broken, the power is halved.
So Krieg is one piece of proof that 2 united weapons = 2x 1 weapon power wise.
Example 3
Roronoa Zoro, who uses 3 swords, has an attack called 108 Pound Phoenix/Cannon.When he uses 2 swords, its called 72 Pound Phoenix/Cannon.
When he uses 1 sword, its called 36 Pound Phoenix/Cannon.
People could easily say "it's dependent on the amount of swords", which is a valid argument, but it isn't true.
When he is alongside Luffy, who has no swords at all, he initially dubs his attack 216 pound siege cannon. They only call it 300 because saying 216 is too long.
Luffy is stated by the databooks (Databook Yellow to be exact) to be his equal in power. The only thing that makes Luffy and Zoro have comparable that would make him double his attack name is their attack power.
So this proves that the naming of Zoro's pound cannons are from the force of the attacks being added up. Luffy, Zoro's equal, thinks of doubling the number behind Zoro's attack, and the only thing that'd make him do that is power.
Additional Proof
Zoro, Luffy, and Sanji use a combined attack called the 600 pound cannon. Used in Sabaody, after Thriller Bark.Thriller Bark, Zoro got Shusui, which was stated to be several times stronger than his previous sword's strength. On a lowball 3x, making it 3x36 + 36 + 36, or 180.
The other MTrio members are portrayed to be comparable to Zoro in that instance, making them both additional 180s, or at least around that level. That'd make the attack 540 in total (which is a long name, which could be the reason why they rounded the name to 600).
Another showing of combined attacks = combined power.