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You are really taking advantage of what his username is I just know itAll stuff we know, and all stuff that isn't contested moron.
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You are really taking advantage of what his username is I just know itAll stuff we know, and all stuff that isn't contested moron.
nuh uh cloverYou are really taking advantage of what his username is I just know it
If he can manipulate his darkness, and you acknowledge that, then we shouldn't have an issue with the whole controlling the gravitational pull thing.All stuff we know, and all stuff that isn't contested moron.
Literally no one has an issue with the gravity manipulation… the only issue the opposing side has is with it having super high mass that’s been explained to deathIf he can manipulate his darkness, and you acknowledge that, then we shouldn't have an issue with the whole controlling the gravitational pull thing.
Gravity comes from darkness>Blackbeard can manipulate darkness>Blackbeard can manipulate the gravity>Blackbeard can manipulate how heavy the darkness isLiterally no one has an issue with the gravity manipulation… the only issue the opposing side has is with it having super high mass that’s been explained to death
Have we ever seen black beard manipulate how heavy the darkness is? Because that's a big assumption. All we've seen I'm pretty sure is black beard manipulating what and who it affects, not the level of it.Gravity comes from darkness>Blackbeard can manipulate darkness>Blackbeard can manipulate the gravity>Blackbeard can manipulate how heavy the darkness is
So then him not crushing the houses totally makes sense.
The fact that he doesn't totally crush the village even though he can pulverize rocks, and suck in light.Have we ever seen black beard manipulate how heavy the darkness is? Because that's a big assumption. All we've seen I'm pretty sure is black beard manipulating what and who it affects, not the level of it.
Wouldnt this saying that it attracts enemies and allies alike suggest that he cant actually control its pull?
This literally says he can manipulate darkness.
Largest Paragraph in Black Text: The power to manipulate darkness... it refers to the gravitational force that can even capture light! It has the ability to attract and crush everything and reduce it to nothingness. It can even nullify the abilities of other Devil Fruit users through its gravitational force, but it has weaknesses such as being the only Logia power with a physical form, and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike.
Yeah no. He can control the strength and not control what it does and doesn't suck in.Wouldnt this saying that it attracts enemies and allies alike suggest that he cant actually control its pull?
Wasnt one of the arguments that he chooses what is pulled in and whats not and thats why no light is actually sucked in?Yeah no. He can control the strength and not control what it does and doesn't suck in.
No it just says he can, not that he has no control over itWouldnt this saying that it attracts enemies and allies alike suggest that he cant actually control its pull?
That can be accomplished by controlling the strength of the pull. If something is light enough that its pulled in, he can't necessarily control that.Wasnt one of the arguments that he chooses what is pulled in and whats not and thats why no light is actually sucked in?
Actually is stated that one of its weaknesses is that it attracts both his enemies and allies.No it just says he can, not that he has no control over it
That’s literally only in relation to him not being able to turn into an element and avoid attacks.Actually is stated that one of its weaknesses is that it attracts both his enemies and allies.
"weaknesses such as being the only Logia power with a physical form, and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike."
Considering its even listed as a weakness seems important
Pretty sure it saysThat’s literally only in relation to him not being able to turn into an element and avoid attacks.
Ya because he literally takes in more damage, it’s still referring to his body. It lines up with what I’ve already postedPretty sure it says
weaknesses such as being the only Logia power with a physical form, and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike."
Weaknesses in plural and after specifically talk about his physical form there is a comma "and" so its clearly not talking about him having a physical form
Actually is funny it doesnt talk about his pain being amplified while the manga does, and the sentence doesnt says that is talking about pain.Ya because he literally takes in more damage, it’s still referring to his body. It lines up with what I’ve already posted
Both statements are referring to his body taking in more damage due to his nature as a darkness man, what are you talking about?Actually is funny it doesnt talk about his pain being amplified while the manga does, and the sentence doesnt says that is talking about pain.
"and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike." clearly states he attracts attacks not talking about receaving more damageBoth statements are referring to his body taking in more damage due to his nature as a darkness man, what are you talking about?
Yes attracting attacks dose not lead to taking damage obviously"and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike." clearly states he attracts attacks not talking about receaving more damage
Pain from Naruto can attract and it doesnt lead to damage, many characters have powers to attract that do not lead to damage, the manga even clearly states that "his darkness sucks..." so he isnt even specifically talking about his body.Yes attracting attacks dose not lead to taking damage obviously
That’s good for him, BB specifically states his body absorbs more damage due to his new nature so those other examples are irrelevant. Ya maybe because his body is made of darknessPain from Naruto can attract and it doesnt lead to damage, many characters have powers to attract that do not lead to damage, the manga even clearly states that "his darkness sucks..." so he isnt even specifically talking about his body.
And the databook states he sucks attacks from enemies and allies, not that he absorbs more damage, and it doesnt really matter this lets very clear that he cant actually control wants his darkness sucks.That’s good for him, BB specifically states his body absorbs more damage due to his new nature so those other examples are irrelevant. Ya maybe because his body is made of darkness
yes because taking more attacks apparently doesn’t constitute to taking more damage even though that’s literally what happens. He doesn’t suck in his own crew in impel downAnd the databook states he sucks attacks from enemies and allies, not that he absorbs more damage, and it doesnt really matter this lets very clear that he cant actually control wants his darkness sucks.
The whole point of his fruit is that his body isnt made of darkness which is why he takes damage unlike any other logia
yes because taking more attacks apparently doesn’t constitute to taking more damage even though that’s literally what happens. He doesn’t suck in his own crew in impel down
It’s literally stated he takes more damage due to his new nature
Were did you even get that from? It was never stated BB crew knew haki at this point sooo…Damage≠ attack, are you going to give pain manipulation to everyone who can attack?
And here i thought one of the arguments is haki can stop them from being sucked in, i guess that doesnt count now then.
I think it's still where it was last time, summarized here.This has devolved into a pretty useless back and forth. Anyone wanna get a staff vote tally rounded up?
Calc Members:This has devolved into a pretty useless back and forth. Anyone wanna get a staff vote tally rounded up?
Can you try and call more mods to this thread? Damage already tried but it seems like they either didn't receive the @ or didn't care about responding to this thread.So atm it doesn't seem like a decisive majority. May need more staff input, especially from CGMs
Yeah, gimme a sec and I can try calling someCan you try and call more mods to this thread? Damage already tried but it seems like they either didn't receive the @ or didn't care about responding to this thread.
It was never stated they didnt knew, heck if crocodile just learned haki in impel down, and blackbeard himself already knew it at this point why wouldnt some of the most dangerous people knew?Were did you even get that from? It was never stated BB crew knew haki at this point sooo…
His OG crew in pre timeskip was far from the “most dangerous people” and the fact that someone like croc didn’t know haki until apparently impel down despite gathering info and beefing with Whitebeard would only further prove that. Hell even if they did know haki why would there’s be strong enough to negate BB darkness when even Whitebeard was getting sucked upIt was never stated they didnt knew, heck if crocodile just learned haki in impel down, and blackbeard himself already knew it at this point why wouldnt some of the most dangerous people knew?
DT doesn't have a CGM title, bro?Calc Members:
Agree: @CloverDragon03 @Migue79
Disagree: @Damage3245, @DontTalkDT, @Executor_N0
Non-Calc Members:
Agree: @KingTempest
Disagree: @Crabwhale
If you need their reasons why they disagree or agree, you can reference my mega post above.
He's the calc exec pmDT doesn't have a CGM title, bro?