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You are really taking advantage of what his username is I just know it
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One Piece: Black Hole Mechanics
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nuh uh cloverYou are really taking advantage of what his username is I just know it
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If he can manipulate his darkness, and you acknowledge that, then we shouldn't have an issue with the whole controlling the gravitational pull thing.
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Literally no one has an issue with the gravity manipulation… the only issue the opposing side has is with it having super high mass
that’s been explained to death
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Gravity comes from darkness>Blackbeard can manipulate darkness>Blackbeard can manipulate the gravity>Blackbeard can manipulate how heavy the darkness isLiterally no one has an issue with the gravity manipulation… the only issue the opposing side has is with it having super high mass
So then him not crushing the houses totally makes sense.
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Have we ever seen black beard manipulate how heavy the darkness is? Because that's a big assumption. All we've seen I'm pretty sure is black beard manipulating what and who it affects, not the level of it.
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Controlling the force of gravity or who it affects =/= controlling the mass of the object. We need actual evidence of him manipulating its mass and weight before we can assume anything else.
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The fact that he doesn't totally crush the village even though he can pulverize rocks, and suck in light.
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That's not the mass tho
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I just caught up to the series a couple of months ago and this thread still going 
. From what I understand,BB’s darkness is compared to how black holes works and can control what it affects. So I don’t see the problem in considering it a black hole
. From what I understand,BB’s darkness is compared to how black holes works and can control what it affects. So I don’t see the problem in considering it a black hole
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Wouldnt this saying that it attracts enemies and allies alike suggest that he cant actually control its pull?
This literally says he can manipulate darkness.
Largest Paragraph in Black Text: The power to manipulate darkness... it refers to the gravitational force that can even capture light! It has the ability to attract and crush everything and reduce it to nothingness. It can even nullify the abilities of other Devil Fruit users through its gravitational force, but it has weaknesses such as being the only Logia power with a physical form, and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike.
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Yeah no. He can control the strength and not control what it does and doesn't suck in.
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Wasnt one of the arguments that he chooses what is pulled in and whats not and thats why no light is actually sucked in?
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No it just says he can, not that he has no control over it
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That can be accomplished by controlling the strength of the pull. If something is light enough that its pulled in, he can't necessarily control that.
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Actually is stated that one of its weaknesses is that it attracts both his enemies and allies.
"weaknesses such as being the only Logia power with a physical form, and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike."
Considering its even listed as a weakness seems important
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That’s literally only in relation to him not being able to turn into an element and avoid attacks.
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Pretty sure it saysThat’s literally only in relation to him not being able to turn into an element and avoid attacks.
weaknesses such as being the only Logia power with a physical form, and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike."
Weaknesses in plural and after specifically talk about his physical form there is a comma "and" so its clearly not talking about him having a physical form
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Ya because he literally takes in more damage, it’s still referring to his body. It lines up with what I’ve already posted
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Actually is funny it doesnt talk about his pain being amplified while the manga does, and the sentence doesnt says that is talking about pain.
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Both statements are referring to his body taking in more damage due to his nature as a darkness man, what are you talking about?
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"and the ability to attract attacks from both enemies and allies alike." clearly states he attracts attacks not talking about receaving more damage
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Yes attracting attacks dose not lead to taking damage obviously
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Pain from Naruto can attract and it doesnt lead to damage, many characters have powers to attract that do not lead to damage, the manga even clearly states that "his darkness sucks..." so he isnt even specifically talking about his body.
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That’s good for him, BB specifically states his body absorbs more damage due to his new nature so those other examples are irrelevant. Ya maybe because his body is made of darkness
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And the databook states he sucks attacks from enemies and allies, not that he absorbs more damage, and it doesnt really matter this lets very clear that he cant actually control wants his darkness sucks.
The whole point of his fruit is that his body isnt made of darkness which is why he takes damage unlike any other logia
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yes because taking more attacks apparently doesn’t constitute to taking more damage even though that’s literally what happens. He doesn’t suck in his own crew in impel down
It’s literally stated he takes more damage due to his new nature
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Damage≠ attack, are you going to give pain manipulation to everyone who can attack?
And here i thought one of the arguments is haki can stop them from being sucked in, i guess that doesnt count now then.
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Were did you even get that from? It was never stated BB crew knew haki at this point sooo…
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I think it's still where it was last time, summarized here.
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Calc Members:
Agree: @CloverDragon03 @Migue79
Disagree: @Damage3245, @DontTalkDT, @Executor_N0
Non-Calc Members:
Agree: @KingTempest
Disagree: @Crabwhale
If you need their reasons why they disagree or agree, you can reference my mega post above.
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So atm it doesn't seem like a decisive majority. May need more staff input, especially from CGMs
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Can you try and call more mods to this thread? Damage already tried but it seems like they either didn't receive the @ or didn't care about responding to this thread.
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Yeah, gimme a sec and I can try calling some
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It was never stated they didnt knew, heck if crocodile just learned haki in impel down, and blackbeard himself already knew it at this point why wouldnt some of the most dangerous people knew?
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His OG crew in pre timeskip was far from the “most dangerous people” and the fact that someone like croc didn’t know haki until apparently impel down despite gathering info and beefing with Whitebeard would only further prove that. Hell even if they did know haki why would there’s be strong enough to negate BB darkness when even Whitebeard was getting sucked up
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Sorry for the mass ping, but we need more input from the Calc Group to reach a conclusion to this thread
Sorry for the mass ping, but we need more input from the Calc Group to reach a conclusion to this thread
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DT doesn't have a CGM title, bro?
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He's the calc exec pmDT doesn't have a CGM title, bro?
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