Ogre Dad VS Alchemy Dad

[Anttron224]

Anyway, voting Hohenheim via regen and versatility

Even after demon back being unrestricted?

 

[BakiHanma18]

I see no reason why Hohenheim can be KOd physically when the first Greed Literally got his Head blown off and was still able to be conscious and still move while regenerating
Yuichiro gets destroyed

If Yuichiro sees can't kill him and red-out didn't work, he's just going to lock him, hold him, or pin him, something Hohenheim literally has 0 counter against

 

[Schnee_One]

Yup, it's not like the AP gap is that big even with Demon Back

BTW how is maintaining balance in a magnitude 6 Earthquake impressive at all? Normal humans can do that, hell literally everyone in the scenewas abke to maintain balance and not fall over, so it's not really too impressive a feat

 

[Anttron224]

In the manga they all fell over or were falling

 

[BakiHanma18]

Also, with DB, not only does Yuichiro scale vastly above 60 KT, he's also over 4x faster now

 

[Schnee_One]

<Vastly above 60 Kilotons

He's casually 60 Kilotons, not vastly above

 

[Anttron224]

Hohenheim: 2

Yuichiro: 1

 

[BakiHanma18]

<Vastly above 60 Kilotons
He's casually 60 Kilotons, not vastly above

He didn't just casually beat a 15 KT, he casually 2 shot a 15 KT. That's fairly vast, besides the lifting strength difference is insanely vast

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

And again pinning Hohenheim isn't gonna do shit, that argument makes absolutely no sense when you take his thought based Alchemy into consideration. The one with no real counters here is Yuichiro, not Hohenheim. Yuichiro pins Hohenheim? He either starts attacking Yuichiro with the entire surrounding or creates multiple golems to free himself. ( Likr how Edward could way back in EoS, and Yuichiro ain't overpowering em, they'd have class K lifting strength just to stand up. )

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Also Hohenheim is becoming High 7-C soon enough anyway and I'm pretty sure Yujiro's feat is getting downgraded.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Then Yuichiro is just gunna have to take him out with his vastly above 60 KT AP, being 4x faster, and being vastly more skilled in combat

 

[Schnee_One]

He didn't just casually beat a 15 KT, he casually 2 shot a 15 KT. That's fairly vast, besides the lifting strength difference is insanely vast

I already brought this up alongside other things on Yujiro vs Wolf, but Pickle and Biscuit are only 7C by backscaling from Yujiro's feat because they can survive one of his attacks.

However it's reverse scaling to say that Yujiro is vastly above 7C by stomping someone who is 7C....By getting stomped by Yujiro

 

[Anttron224]

Might as well stop this thread if Hohenheim is getting upgraded

 

[BakiHanma18]

He didn't just casually beat a 15 KT, he casually 2 shot a 15 KT. That's fairly vast, besides the lifting strength difference is insanely vast

I already brought this up alongside other things on Yujiro vs Wolf, but Pickle and Biscuit are only 7C by backscaling from Yujiro's feat because they can survive one of his attacks.
However it's reverse scaling to say that Yujiro is vastly above 7C by stomping someone who is 7C....By getting stomped by Yujiro

And that was addressed by Amlad twice on how both Pickle and Oliva have tons of feats to support 7-C without backscaling, Yujiro even says he wouldn't want to take a head on strike from Oliva. Oliva is considered one of the 3 strongest men on Earth with Yujiro and Che, and Oliva physical compares to SOO Baki, who fought Yujiro quite handily for a time

 

[Anttron224]

Er, then I would say no. When you talk about Regenerationn that would stop the knock out from happening, I'm thinking something Sayaka Miki's regen is based on her body healing impossibly fast and actually showing her not affected from being knocked out.

The plot thickens on your regen incapacitation thread

 

[BakiHanma18]

Er, then I would say no. When you talk about Regenerationn that would stop the knock out from happening, I'm thinking something Sayaka Miki's regen is based on her body healing impossibly fast and actually showing her not affected from being knocked out.

The plot thickens on your regen incapacitation thread

I'd say if KO is possible (which it seems to be as of this post), Yuichiro wins mid diff. If KO isn't possible, Hohenheim takes it high diff, but this is not a stomp

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

I placed a comment for him to read since he lacks context, so no the plot doesn't thicken. It's the same regen as Magical regen and Greed's existence already shows us that Homunculi can't be knocked out like that.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Baki this is a stomp, Hohenheim is getting upgraded to High 7-C soon.

 

[Anttron224]

I placed a comment for him to read since he lacks context, so no the plot doesn't thicken. It's the same regen as Magical regen and Greed's existence already shows us that Homunculi can't be knocked out like that.

I was kidding.

Baki this is a stomp, Hohenheim is getting upgraded to High 7-C soon.

Yeah, and if this thread concluded properly, the results would just get removed after Hohenheim's upgrade anyway.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So I was asked whether or not manipulating blood to flow to the head being able to KO someone with Low-High Regenerationn? Well, just because someone has high Regenerationn doesn't always mean it's impossible to knock someone unconscious. However, there do exist characters where the Regenerationn has versatility to cause someone to recover from fatigue.

 

[Schnee_One]

It is logically impossible to KO somebody with regen on that level unless their regen is tied to their stamina

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

KO, doesn't have to mean kill, but could mean knock unconscious. And there technically do exist characters with broken levels of Regenerationn but can't regenerate basic levels of destruction; there is such a thing as specific Regenerationn as opposed to versatile Regenerationn.

However, someone else already answered on my wall that in this case; the KO is impossible.

 

[Schnee_One]

Im well aware KO means Knock Out, I've been on this site for years and Im not an idiot.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

No one said you were.

 

[Schnee_One]

I know that! XD Is just saying I know what KO means lol

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

By the way, wasn't this agreed to be a stomp?

 

[Schnee_One]

Correct, yeeting