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Baki Hanma Vs Johan Seong (1-0-0)

Pyro9278

Pyro9278

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Johan Seong: 1 ( @Viott )
  • Johan is in character.
  • Start at base, have access to all its states.
  • Key: The Hunt for Big Deal Arc.
Baki Hanma:
  • Baki is in character.
  • Key: Maximum Tournament to New Grappler Baki.
  • Start at base, have access to all its states.
The fight takes place in the streets of Busan. They start 5 meters apart. Unequalized Speed and SBA from the rest.
 
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Baki probably takes this? Daniel has more consistent speed stuff in his profile, but not enough to blitz.

Demon Back would wash Daniel, UI or not.
 
KupTheKup said:
Baki probably takes this? Daniel has more consistent speed stuff in his profile, but not enough to blitz.

Demon Back would wash Daniel, UI or not.
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I think there's a long scaling chain in Speed and AP. Plus, Daniel has several amps, so it could be matched with speed.
 
AigerTheKing said:
Quick question: Is Baki fear hax limited to people weaker than him?
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Looking at the scans, it goes to applies to rats, school bullies, students and teachers, and finally the world champ. So I'd say so, and all of these people are massively weaker than him since if I remember, Baki was bored and used little effort against him in the fight. (Him as in the world champ).
 
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Pyro9278 said:
I think there's a long scaling chain in Speed and AP. Plus, Daniel has several amps, so it could be matched with speed.
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I still remember when he called goons who were Minsik level, strong. Big Funny.

Now, with the scaling chain. Small Daniel (even with UI) currently should be above an out of prime Jichang (even if he went all out). I really can't see him above that, I think I can give Daniel SS though.

So, Baki takes AP, LS and Dura. Daniel takes most speed things and SS. I still stand by Demon Back being a one shot on Daniel, since it gives a huge boost to stats.

Baki wins in the end with the back. Also yeah Baki would start copying faster than Daniel could if it came to that. It's like 3A but Daniel is actually Johan.
 
KupTheKup said:
I still remember when he called goons who were Minsik level, strong. Big Funny.

Now, with the scaling chain. Small Daniel (even with UI) currently should be above an out of prime Jichang (even if he went all out). I really can't see him above that, I think I can give Daniel SS though.

So, Baki takes AP, LS and Dura. Daniel takes most speed things and SS. I still stand by Demon Back being a one shot on Daniel, since it gives a huge boost to stats.

Baki wins in the end with the back. Also yeah Baki would start copying faster than Daniel could if it came to that. It's like 3A but Daniel is actually Johan.
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I count that as a vote for Baki, right?
 
Which 9-A calculation is used in Baki?


I checked his profile but couldn’t find anything.
 
Viott said:
Which 9-A calculation is used in Baki?


I checked his profile but couldn’t find anything.
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Don't rely on the profiles, they're complete ass; this keys gonna be scaling to probably building soon enough.
 
I’m voting for Daniel Park.

Daniel Ap = 933 MJ

Baki AP = 150 MJ

Daniel Park is 6.22 times stronger. Also, thanks to Analytical Prediction, Baki can’t even touch him.
 
Viott said:
I’m voting for Daniel Park.

Daniel Ap = 933 MJ

Baki AP = 150 MJ

Daniel Park is 6.22 times stronger. Also, thanks to Analytical Prediction, Baki can’t even touch him.
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The AP gap makes this a stomp, honestly. Daniel nearly one-shots Baki with one hit, and Baki can't even land a single blow due to Park's ANPR.
 
Doggo said:
The AP gap makes this a stomp, honestly. Daniel nearly one-shots Baki with one hit, and Baki can't even land a single blow due to Park's ANPR.
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This was supposed to happen before Daniel got his Own Path. I'm changing this to Johan.
 
Viott said:
It doesn’t change what I said. Johan wins with the AP difference.

I’m voting for Johan.
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This is Johan Hunt for Big Deal. His scale is 160 MJ while Baki's is 150 MJ, a tiny difference. Furthermore, the speed is unequal. Johan (and the entire verse currently) is at a speed disadvantage.
 
Pyro9278 said:
This is Johan Hunt for Big Deal. His scale is 160 MJ while Baki's is 150 MJ, a tiny difference. Furthermore, the speed is unequal. Johan (and the entire verse currently) is at a speed disadvantage.
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This isn’t a fair match.
 
Doggo said:
How? The gap in strength is minimal and Baki has a decent speed advantage.
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I think someone has a personal bias but I can't prove it. While Johan has a speed disadvantage (I don't think he's a blitz considering that it scales higher), he has several ways to deal with it, CQC, attack reflection, he can even copy Baki's techniques. I even dare to say that the best advantage Baki has is his speed advantage, because if Johan accessed his UI mode he would have a massive AP advantage since he should be comparable (although inferior) to the UI Daniel.
 
Pyro9278 said:
I think someone has a personal bias but I can't prove it.
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It just seems that way to you.
Pyro9278 said:
While speed is Johan's main drawback, he has several ways to deal with speed, CQC, and spin attack reflection. He can also copy and overpower Baki's techniques, and even has UI. I think Johan even ends up having a bigger AP advantage if he uses it.
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Baki speed: High Hypersonic
Johan Speed: Supersonic+
None of the things you said work because the speed difference is too big. That’s why I’m saying it’s not a fair match.
 
Pyro9278 said:
I think someone has a personal bias but I can't prove it. While Johan has a speed disadvantage (I don't think he's a blitz considering that it scales higher), he has several ways to deal with it, CQC, attack reflection, he can even copy Baki's techniques. I even dare to say that the best advantage Baki has is his speed advantage, because if Johan accessed his UI mode he would have a massive AP advantage since he should be comparable (although inferior) to the UI Daniel.
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I did not see James Doakes's name here mister
 
Viott said:
It just seems that way to you.

Baki speed: High Hypersonic
Johan Speed: Supersonic+
None of the things you said work because the speed difference is too big. That’s why I’m saying it’s not a fair match.
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Dear gracious, the beef is palpable

So you think Baki dominates?
 
Viott said:
It just seems that way to you.
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I'm just kidding man 😭
Viott said:
Baki speed: High Hypersonic
Johan Speed: Supersonic+
None of the things you said work because the speed difference is too big. That’s why I’m saying it’s not a fair match.
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Key: Maximum Tournament to New Grappler Baki
"At least Supersonic, likely higher (Easily performed the Mach Punch, can blitz convicts like Sikorsky when he’s serious, ran 800 meters in 85 seconds to beat the world record), Hypersonic with Demon Back and Post Power up (With his Demon Back he blitzed Jack and at the end of NGB he easily blitzed Muhammad Ali Jr)"
 
Pyro9278 said:
I'm just kidding man 😭

Key: Maximum Tournament to New Grappler Baki
"At least Supersonic, likely higher (Easily performed the Mach Punch, can blitz convicts like Sikorsky when he’s serious, ran 800 meters in 85 seconds to beat the world record), Hypersonic with Demon Back and Post Power up (With his Demon Back he blitzed Jack and at the end of NGB he easily blitzed Muhammad Ali Jr)"
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This is better.
 
Baki is only 1.5 times faster. Thanks to Analytical Prediction, Johan can dodge Baki’s attacks, and with Accelerated Development, the speed gap will close in a short time. Even if Baki is a bit stronger, Johan can still harm him. And in the end, Johan will win.


In short, I vote for Johan.
 
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