Odin 3-b ?

[Setsuna_tenma]

also the main marvel universe is massive

• Myriads of Myth-Realms & Myriads of Planes of Exsitence within each Singular Reality It also seems that each of the Myth-Realms seems to be a whole reality/dimension
• Endless Cosmos exists within the smallest matter
• There are Countless Hells [Keep in mind that Hell only exists within Earth 616] , with each being the size of a Universe w/ space & time.
• each atom is its own reality within the universe
• Innumerable Space-TIme DImensions were created by the Big-Bang of a singular reality

Scales to odin since he can destroy it

 

[PRIDEXEGO]

wow forget low2-c i am thinking 2-c now lol as all those feat way surpass this low2-c feat https://i4.***********.net/dragon-ball-super/4/dragon-ball-super-6170311.jpg of beerus.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with if we upgrade Odin to 2-C or so. Would somebody experienced/competent be willing to upgrade his profile, and all of the pages that are scaled from him?

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

So Odin is 2-C, not Low 2-C?

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Appears so.

 

[Dziga]

Those feats are blatantly 2-C. Not sure if there's much to discuss here.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

We preferably need a confirmation from Matthew first though. Can somebody ask him to comment here again?

 

[Antvasima]

Also:

Would somebody experienced/competent be willing to upgrade his profile, and all of the pages that are scaled from him?

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

@Ant

If no one volunteers for a few days I can do it. I've updated many profiles by now so this would be fine.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I could help.

 

[Antvasima]

PrinceOfTheMorning can probably handle it, but I would recommend writing a draft for Odin's updated profile in a blog post first.

Remember that you need to link to the scans with evidence within it. Maybe a feats list would be useful to include as well?

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Odin has so many Low 2-C and 2-C feats that need at least a sentence or two of explanation that maybe it would be best to have a couple of his 2-C feats in the Attack Potency section and update the feat section that's already on his profile with a complete list. Otherwise his AP section would be a gigantic cluttered paragraph.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Agreed.

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Okay. Well like I said, if nothing is done about this in the next couple days I'll do it. Real life stuff has me pretty busy today and tomorrow.

@Peter Would be appreciated

 

[Antvasima]

However, we have an additional problem. Given that a moderately well-fed Galactus (Marvel Comics) is scaled from Odin, we preferably need to update his full power statistics as well, along with the Celestials, Mad Celestial, universal Eternity/Infinity/Lord Chaos/Master OrderThe In-Betweener, etcetera, in conjunction, as they are supposed to be more powerful.

The question is how we should scale them properly.

 

[Antvasima]

@PrinceOfTheMorning

Okay. Thank you for the help.

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

To be honest the Celestials as they are now deserve a page overhaul but that's for another time.

• Each of the Fourth Host Celestials, which are currently called "regular ones" on the Celestial page were capable of stomping a massively amped Odin in his Destroyer Armor. In addition, Moderately Fed Galactus needed to amp himself on several planets before feeling confident enough to fight the individual Mad Celestials, who Hickman said were equal to their 616 Fourth Host counterparts. I don't know if that deserves an "At least 2-C" for regular Celestials or not.

• The fused Mad Celestial one-shot Well-Fed Galactus

• Exitar and The One Above All were stated to be far beyond all other Celestials.

• The Abstracts' universal incarnations were stated to be beyond Exitar and The One Above All.

In-Betweener is kind of a weird case because his universal incarnation often didn't really behave like an abstract.

 

[Antvasima]

So what do you suggest? Simply adding "At least 2-C (Much stronger than Odin)" to all of them until we come up with better scaling?

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

sounds about accurate

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Antvasima]

Here are the tier 2 profiles that might be affected:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/S...tegory:Tier+2&limit=100&wpSubmit=Find+matches

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

That's alot.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. I am afraid so.

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Actually, to avoid a massive chain of "At least 2-C" scaling, I want to bring up a feat for Well-Fed Galactus that was previously outliery, but with all these Odin feats and the upgrades I don't think it is.

Can't link scans atm, but in 2012's Mighty Thor annual Galactus battled Scrier and the Other, and their three-way clash was outright stated to be about to wipe out the multiverse, a solid 2-A feat. It falls in line with the Celestials surviving the detonation of the First Firmament into the first multiverse, as well as Kubik stating the Celestials are infinities above the Cosmic Cubes.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

here is the scan for gal

i do think it is still an outlier since it says all of creation which would imply High 1B

 

[PrinceOfTheMorning]

Oblivion himself stated it was "all universes" though, which is what I think creation is referring to in this context.

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

Let us not get that far now lol

 

[PRIDEXEGO]

Let us not get that far now lol

^^^^^^^^^^^ gal has no other feat to back those statement up he was scared of infinity gauntlet and thier are many being like mephisto who stalemate him in their dimensions galactus is more closer to universal aspect of abstract beings then anything but still not as strong as them.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that a High 1-B regular well-fed Galactus and Celestials seems exaggerated, especially as it would make them completely transcend the universal abstracts, but 2-A is probably fine.

We need input from Matthew though.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Well-fed Galactus being Tier 1 is ludicrous.

 

[KLOL506]

Pretty sure Odin and the Skyfathers were supposed to be 3-A looooooooong back (Everyone agreed without controversy), but the Marvel revisions simply never took off because it was too big.

 

[Hellbeast1]

At most he's 2-A though I feel at least 2-C is good

 

[PRIDEXEGO]

for odin 2-c is good

celestials atleast 2-c (stronger than odin and likes)

galactus(well fed) atleast 2-c (stronger than odin and likes)

unviersal abstracts also atleast 2-c (stronger than all average celestials)

 

[PRIDEXEGO]

2-A Is still a big stretch for galactus as he never described as the threat to multiverse or ever destroyed one accoding to vswiiki coie antimonitor was a 2-a being i dont think galactus is on that level only life bringer galactus can be said 2-a or the one with ultimate nullfire

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Well-fed Galactus being Tier 1 is ludicrous.

Agreed.

2-A and High 1-B for Abstracts is pure wank.

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

Okay. How do you suggest that we should tier them? They are supposed to be stronger than Odin.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Low 2-C or 2-C for Odin is fair.

"At least 2-C" for Abstracts and Celestials is fine.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then I think that we should use 2-C for Odin and the characters scaled from him, and "At least 2-C" for full-fed Galactus, the Celestials, Franklin Richards, and the universal abstracts.

 

[Antvasima]

Should we upgrade the multiversal incarnation of the Phoenix Force to High 1-B while we are at it?