NNT skill and abilities revision

[ByAsura]

Ok, I've made a lot of the changes, but I have some reservations.

Firstly, standard tactics needs much more meat to it.

Secondly, I'll do the Chaos range upgrade after the hax thread is concluded. Resurrection hasn't even been added as a power yet.

Lastly, Cusack doesn't have True Night.

 

[speedster352]

Ok, I've made a lot of the changes, but I have some reservations.

Firstly, standard tactics needs much more meat to it.

Secondly, I'll do the Chaos range upgrade after the hax thread is concluded. Resurrection hasn't even been added as a power yet.

Lastly, Cusack doesn't have True Night.

My bad I mean cusack affecting Arthur from hundreds of km away. True any suggestions for standard tactics?

 

[ByAsura]

Not that I can think of right now.

Also, I couldn't find the Cursed by Light statement that Meliodas has all the Deities' knowledge.

 

[speedster352]

Not that I can think of right now.

Also, I couldn't find the Cursed by Light statement that Meliodas has all the Deities' knowledge.

Ask makai also you forgot that Meliodas should get hundreds of meters with ranged attacks since his attacks dwarfed drole. EDIT Look at the fight with the SD he talks about remembering the DK thoughts also ask makai.

 

[ByAsura]

Drole isn't hundreds of metres. He's less than 26.

 

[speedster352]

Drole isn't hundreds of metres. He's less than 26.

So 10s of meters than with ranged attacks

 

[ByAsura]

Yeah.

That's also consistent with him obliterating Albion's arm.

 

[speedster352]

Yeah.

That's also consistent with him obliterating Albion's arm.

Interplanetary. The Chaos's power can reset the world and destroy all realms with their forms and estructures

Can you fix this? It's on Arthur and Chao's profile it should say structures

All of Escarno's powers except abilities granted by Axe Rhitta.

This needs to be fixed it should say Escanor.

 

[speedster352]

Yeah.

That's also consistent with him obliterating Albion's arm.

Also it was Meliodas hellbalze that dwarfed drole too

 

[ByAsura]

Also it was Meliodas hellbalze that dwarfed drole too

He already has tens of km with darkness.

Can you fix this? It's on Arthur and Chao's profile it should say structures

This needs to be fixed it should say Escanor.

Fixed.

 

[speedster352]

He already has tens of km with darkness.

Fixed.

Hellblaze is different than darkness though unless you are talking about that one scan that he used hellbaze to destroy danafor?

 

[speedster352]

He already has tens of km with darkness.

Fixed.

What's wrong with Meliodas' standard tactics and intelligence?

 

[speedster352]

He already has tens of km with darkness.

Fixed.

Also, every single relevant nnt character should have superhuman stamina and average intelligence and higher for people like Zeldris, SD and DK

 

[ByAsura]

Also, every single relevant nnt character should have superhuman stamina and average intelligence and higher for people like Zeldris, SD and DK

I'm planning to, but it takes time.

What's wrong with Meliodas' standard tactics and intelligence?

Standard tactics doesn't have enough information, and the DK knowledge thing still isn't substantiated.

Hellblaze is different than darkness though unless you are talking about that one scan that he used hellbaze to destroy danafor?

Ok, I'll write tens of metres with hellblaze, then.

That was a darkness pillar.

 

[speedster352]

I'm planning to, but it takes time.

Standard tactics doesn't have enough information, and the DK knowledge thing still isn't substantiated.

Ok, I'll write tens of metres with hellblaze, then.

That was a darkness pillar.

Well, check the cursed by the light movie when meliodas was talking about sharing the DK thoughts and memories also ask makai. Standard tactics for nnt characters are to use a sword if possible or use magic if the opponent is dangerous and fight from a range.

 

[ByAsura]

I found the statement.

Then I don't see the point in having standard tactics.

 

[speedster352]

I found the statement.

Then I don't see the point in having standard tactics.

It's important additional information

2nd Demon Meliodas struggled against Supreme Deity even with a fully-functioning Lostvayne (it's shown to make clones in Cursed by Light) and help from Zeldris, and is about equal to Ban whom the 50% Demon King overpowered. 33.3946554493 Teratons (Country level).

So the hundred percent deities should be 64 teratons correct? Since they are 2x stronger

It's from your crt?

 

[speedster352]

I'm planning to, but it takes time.

Standard tactics doesn't have enough information, and the DK knowledge thing still isn't substantiated.

Ok, I'll write tens of metres with hellblaze, then.

That was a darkness pillar.

Just put tens of meters with air slashes and hellblaze although just putting tens of meters with ranged attacks is just simplier

 

[ByAsura]

It's important additional information

It's not if it's just 'use a sword if possible or use magic if the opponent is dangerous and fight from a range'.

It's from your crt?

I've already told you it's been overhauled. I can't even remember the exact justification behind it, that's how long it's been left in the dust.

Just put tens of meters with air slashes and hellblaze although just putting tens of meters with ranged attacks is just simplier

That's what I'm doing.

 

[speedster352]

It's not if it's just 'use a sword if possible or use magic if the opponent is dangerous and fight from a range'.

I've already told you it's been overhauled. I can't even remember the exact justification behind it, that's how long it's been left in the dust.

That's what I'm doing.

Pretty much every other verse on vs wiki have a standard tactics page nnt shouldn't be different. What does overhauled mean?

 

[speedster352]

It's not if it's just 'use a sword if possible or use magic if the opponent is dangerous and fight from a range'.

I've already told you it's been overhauled. I can't even remember the exact justification behind it, that's how long it's been left in the dust.

That's what I'm doing.

Is Meliodas intelligence section alright to upgrade then since you found the statement?

 

[ByAsura]

Pretty much every other verse on vs wiki have a standard tactics page nnt shouldn't be different.

Actually, now that I'm looking, that's a fair point.

What does overhauled mean?

Heavily revised.

Is Meliodas intelligence section alright to upgrade then since you found the statement?

Sure, I'll do it.

 

[speedster352]

Actually, now that I'm looking, that's a fair point.

Heavily revised.

Sure, I'll do it.

Let me guess the ap values changed drastically

 

[Majinere566]

Also one thing

Cath is stated to be able to alter the world when he gets a piece of chaos, would that warrant planetary range?

 

[Makai641001]

Not that I can think of right now.

Also, I couldn't find the Cursed by Light statement that Meliodas has all the Deities' knowledge.

He said something like « while possessed i had access to ALL of my father’s thoughts » that’s how He knew about their game, the balance of the world etc…

 

[ByAsura]

I already found it. It's ok.

 

[Makai641001]

I already found it. It's ok.

You accepted Dura negation for goddesses could you indicate me where i can find the justification for it

 

[ByAsura]

Look in the other thread.

 

[speedster352]

Look in the other thread.

Which one?

 

[ByAsura]

I'm talking to Makai. It's fine now.

 

[Makai641001]

Look in the other thread.

Thanks i found it

 

[speedster352]

Actually, now that I'm looking, that's a fair point.

Heavily revised.

Sure, I'll do it.

Wouldn't the DK be an extraordinary genius since he created the demon realm, spells and pretty much everything relating to the demon realm, he also gave this knowledge to Merlin and his son Meliodas? Merlin and demon gowther(maybe doll too) should have this at least since they can create things beyond human understanding and is futuristic.

 

[ByAsura]

I don’t think we typically regard creation feats as intelligence feats unless we have an idea of the mechanism behind them.

As for Gowther and Merlin, that seems fine.

 

[speedster352]

I don’t think we typically regard creation feats as intelligence feats unless we have an idea of the mechanism behind them.

As for Gowther and Merlin, that seems fine.

Yes but the DK created all the spells and everything else related to the demon realm and been alive for at least 1.5 billion years.

 

[speedster352]

I don’t think we typically regard creation feats as intelligence feats unless we have an idea of the mechanism behind them.

As for Gowther and Merlin, that seems fine.

So you can add it for Gowther and Merlin?

 

[ByAsura]

Who says he personally created all the spells? All he'd have to do is make magic.

So you can add it for Gowther and Merlin?

I'm not on computer.

 

[speedster352]

Who says he personally created all the spells? All he'd have to do is make magic.

I'm not on computer.

So making a complex race and an entire realm isn’t an intelligence feat? He did say that he could read all his commandments thoughts and memories so maybe he has Gowther’s knowledge.

 

[ByAsura]

Not unless we get details on it.

Maybe.

 

[speedster352]

Not unless we get details on it.

Maybe.

We do have the detail he created the realm and the entire demon clan. He gave them 7 hearts and etc

 

[ByAsura]

We need detail of how he created it for it to be an intelligence feat, not that he created it.