Nightmare vs Wilford Warfstache

[Christian_Higdon]

Story: Nearly everybody on the dance floor is slaughtered as Warfstache is the last left standing. He sees the murderer and decides to get down with this thing.

Speed Equal.

Both are 10-B (might have to change to 10-A NM if stomp).

Wilford is being used instead of the Colonel.

Who wins?

Nightmare: 4

Warfstache: 4

Inconclusive: 0

 

[TheArsenal1212]

I think it depends on if moustache man's hax is combat applicable and if the occasions he used them were gag feats or not

If they are applicable then I think it's too much for Nightmare and he hax himto death

If they aren't, Nightmare gets close via invisibility and bites him

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

So i don't know if Nightmare can get past intangibility which imo shouldn't be intangibility but instead as reality warping but I digress

I will wait at the moment

 

[Christian_Higdon]

But Nightmare can't go invisible in this key.

I can argue he has better AP tho.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

I mean Nightmare oof

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Well, I mean, I guess Nightmare has teleporting here, if that helps anything.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

So can Wilford though.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

True. That'd be one fight then.

Darn it, Christian, stop wasting your life and go to sleeeeeep!

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Ahhhh yeah whoops

Still, I'm gonna hold off until I know if his hax is combat applicable

 

[The_Impress]

which imo shouldn't be intangibility but instead as reality warping

Ikr? Intangibility was later added by Crimson. It has to be manually activated though, so idk if that's combat applicable

Warfstache's perception is combat inapplicable, but he can teleport as well and has far higher hax rate, both of which can possibly be combat applicable

Also BTW, The key used for nightmare only has teleportation and stealth mastery listed, and no invisibility.

I see Wilford winning more likely than Nightmare so I'll vote him

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

What hax are even usefull in this fight?

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Yeah I did accidentally mess up the keys, even nightmares teleportation gets cancelled out by moustache man's own teleportation. Voting moustache man FRA

 

[The_Impress]

Warfstache's hax are activated subconsciously BTW

Reality Warping is useful for Willy on a technicality, since it can summon other 10-Bs, and teleportation can cancel out each other. Intangibility, while not as OP, is still something Wilford can use to stop a direct hit from Nightmare (Which is its go-to stratergy if jumpscares are anything to go by).

Only hax that aren't useful are the Time Travel and Precog, since it doesn't make sense he can randomly activate them.

Honestly both can kill each other but Wilford is likely to kill Nightmare first since he has more counters

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Reality Warping (Restructured an entire room), Acausality (Type 1, two Warfstaches can exist in the same point in time with no ill effects, can take someone back in time without affecting their memories), Longevity, Teleportation (Teleported around the Detective's apartment in order to unnerve him), Telepathy (Heard the Detective's inner monologue and could speak in his mind), Precognition (Predicted a train ride with the Detective that hadn't happened yet), Breaking the Fourth Wall (Shows awareness of the camera here), Time Travel (Warfstache is often implied to be able to travel through time) and Intangibility (Walked through the Detective's bullet with no ill effects)

What hax? None of these ignore durability or anything like that? They are abilities, yes, but hax? Not really. He is never shown using Reality Warping in an offensive attack...and that is the only thing that could be classified as a hax. Tbh going with Nightmare. Killing instinct, superior tools for the job, and while Wil can using intangibility, the boi still has to become physicall to attack. And again, this is a normal guy punching a metal robot.

 

[The_Impress]

Nightmare isn't a metal robot though, it's unclear what it is even (apparently it's supposed to be an illusion or something). So, I think we should still assume his dura to be around 10-B.

Also, talking real world, Animatronics aren't the most durable things either. You can legit punch it and likely dislocate a hydraulic and break the entire thing, hell most of the cheap ones are made of mostly plastic parts to cut budgets and reduce overheating.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Ok.

Still this is Killer Instinct vs Inconsistant Intangibility

Wil uses it VERY infrequently (I will make a thread later about dat stuff aka abilities but eh)

I mean he never uses it when he is tazed or when he is tied up, instead for the latter relying on teleprotation. Also Wilford doesn't have a very battle ready mind, as shown when he lets the detective harm him as well as rambling on about random things. Also Wilford doesn't seem to be in full control of his powers, or at the very least doesn't understand them. This is show through what he says when the detective asks about them.

 

[The_Impress]

It isn't as inconsistent, he has to manually activate them, likely subconsciously. He didn't go intangible for unexpected hits like the Detective pulling out a taser on him, but otherwise has become intangible in a direct confrontation.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Only once has he ever "become intangible" which still don't know if that is what he actually did but ok. Wilford will not expect a large bear animatronic to teleport behind him and bite a chunk out of his shoulder. So he wouldn't become intangible by that logic.

 

[EnnardTrap1987]

Nightmare wins. He is gonna increase that winning streak

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Nah im voted Nightmare FRA.

 

[Sans2345]

Nightmare FRA

 

[The_Impress]

It's hard to make a character win who will literally not fight anyone...

 

[Abstractions]

Only once has he ever "become intangible" which still don't know if that is what he actually did but ok. Wilford will not expect a large bear animatronic to teleport behind him and bite a chunk out of his shoulder. So he wouldn't become intangible by that logic.

In the instance that the detective shot him, it was because the latter had panicked, meaning Wilford had but a small timeframe to even activate it, what's to suggest that he won't go intangible the moment Nightmare teleports? Or teleport himself? He does have Precognition as well, after all.

He does seem to have control of his powers to a degree, granted the timing of his Reality Warping shouldn't really be chalked up to a coincidence.

The reason Wilford didn't use his powers is because he clearly didn't feel threatened in that situation and had no intention of harming the detective. Things are different here as both combatants are willing to kill as per SBA.

@Zark Wilford is a killer, that statement doesn't have value.

Nightmare has the natural advantage of claws and large teeth vs. human physiology, but Wilford arguably is the more skilled combat wise as being a trained detective before his killing spree.

Nightmare also has his weak invisibility, for what it's worth on a bright dance floor.

Not voting, just commenting on both sides.

 

[The_Impress]

Trained Colonel* but whatever.

 

[Moritzva]

Warf's going to win this FRA.

 

[The_Impress]

King of FNAF's making a comeback

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Trained with a hand gun, and iirc Wil is never shown having any combat prowess other than with his gun that he doesn't have in this form.

As for being a killer, in his Wilford form he never kills anyone, and even going with the Colonel, he never ment to kill anyone and became mentally unstable after the fact. That was also because they were friends but again, doesn't show that much experiance killing.

Precognition is something Wil has never use mid combat, and he even states that time gets confusing to him in his head.

And again, Nightmare just bites Wil when he becomes tangible to attack him.

 

[Abstractions]

Trained with a hand gun, and iirc Wil is never shown having any combat prowess other than with his gun that he doesn't have in this form.

As for being a killer, in his Wilford form he never kills anyone, and even going with the Colonel, he never ment to kill anyone and became mentally unstable after the fact. That was also because they were friends but again, doesn't show that much experiance killing.

Precognition is something Wil has never use mid combat, and he even states that time gets confusing to him in his head.

And again, Nightmare just bites Wil when he becomes tangible to attack him.

Which should then be present here if you are willing at all to make this match even if you don't think he has fighting experience, being a Colonel definitely suggests some previous military experience, otherwise he wouldn't be ranked as such.

Except, the whole video remarks that he followed him from country to country and Wilford had in fact killed people, not just one person.

But we in fact have evidence of him using it regardless,there's nothing to suggest it won't come into fruition here, much like him being able to read the detectives mind. He'll have the chance to react to Nightmare if he plans his attacks in his head.

Is Wilford going to be standing still? What makes you think he'll even let Nightmare attack him? Wilford was able to allude capture for so long and only got captured do to him attempting to get familial with him recognizing the detective. Suggesting Nightmare "just bites" really dumbs down the situation, when we don't even know if Wilford will allow someone to attack him if he's willing to fight back.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

bump

 

[The_Impress]

Bump

 

[The_Impress]

Bamf

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

bump

 

[The_Impress]

Rise, my child

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

Warf FRA.

 

[The_Impress]

Rise further! Awaken!

 

[The_Impress]

Hey guys, remember this? This'll jog your memory

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

Warf fra