Nightmare Moon is stronger then Discord (MLP)

[Nephillim99]

Nightmare Moon seems to be stronger then Base Princess Luna and Discord.

In the past Luna and Celestia used the Elements of Harmony on Discord meaning all 3 of them saw how powerful they were. When Discord was recaptured with them, he wasn't able to put any kind of struggle at all.

Conversely when Celestia used the Elements of Harmony against Nightmare Moon, not only did she try to win anyway, suggesting she though she could win, but she actually does slightly push back against the EoH beam suggesting her power is not much weaker then it.

The "Nightmare" form seems to increase Luna's strength, and it wouldn't have to be that much. Tirek possessed comparable to Discord's before absorbing Discord's power. Because Twilight with the Power of the 4 Alicorns ~ Tirek with Discord's Power, that means Discord has at most the power of 2 alicorns.

I am suggesting That Luna is High 4-C as Nightmare Moon

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Discord was caught off guard due to his own hubris on both occasions.

Nightmare Moon trying to fight back means nothing when she was effortlessly overpowered, regardless.

 

[Nephillim99]

Discord was caught off guard due to his own hubris on both occasions.
Nightmare Moon trying to fight back means nothing when she was effortlessly overpowered, regardless.

She wasn't effortlessly overpowered, she actually pushes back against the beam slightly. Whereas Discord didn't cause any such disruption.

 

[Pikachu942]

There is no reason to believe Nightmare Moon is>Discord, there is so much going against that. Discord not putting up a fight vs. the EoH is utter PiS. Discord casually defeated both Luna & Celestia at once, and Luna as shown in the Nightmare Night episode can turn into Nightmare Moon at will and it's nothing special, doesn't seem to be a power-up just a cosmetic change.

 

[Nephillim99]

There is no reason to believe Nightmare Moon is>Discord, there is so much going against that. Discord not putting up a fight vs. the EoH is utter PiS. Discord casually defeated both Luna & Celestia at once, and Luna as shown in the Nightmare Night episode can turn into Nightmare Moon at will and it's nothing special, doesn't seem to be a power-up just a cosmetic change.

I don't agree with a few points here, but if it's not accepted that's fine

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

She wasn't effortlessly overpowered, she actually pushes back against the beam slightly. Whereas Discord didn't cause any such disruption.

No, she didn't. In the clip, she stops the beam for a fraction of a second when the two collide before being effortlessly overpowered. Discord never tried to intercept the beam, so there is no reason to scale her.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Azathoth and Pikachu942.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Discord never even tried blocking the beam. If he did, he could probably block it or a short time before being overwhelmed as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, since this issue seems to have been dealt with, I will lock the thread.