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Strongly agreed, and this should be clearly stated within the page in question.
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New Ability: Marksmanship
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I already does to a sufficient degree I'd say, but that's of course not enough.
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What I meant is that you can write whatever you like on such a page but many users won't follow it strictly anyway and just go by the name itself.
Is more a matter of keeping an eye when people add the ability and follow the requirements when doing it ourselves.
Is more a matter of keeping an eye when people add the ability and follow the requirements when doing it ourselves.
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Redundant as this is already stated by the page.
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I mean, that was something Damage said to add to the page before creating it. That it has to be clear that only superhuman stuff should count. There isn’t much you can add without making it redundant as one paragraph or one line would be the same thing.
This is one of these abilities where people add it as the standard for their characters like Superhuman Physical Characteristics. There isn’t much to do that isn’t keeping an eye on it.
This is one of these abilities where people add it as the standard for their characters like Superhuman Physical Characteristics. There isn’t much to do that isn’t keeping an eye on it.
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I think it does need a better visual example but the bar should be as high as this.
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So no stuff like IRL snipers hitting human sized targets from hundreds of meters?
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3 more examples to add. Two more to complete 5 and I think we’re good.
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Nope. That’s within human capabilities, so it doesn’t count.
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I think peak human shooting feats should definitely qualify
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So any sniper can qualify?
American Sniper should definitely qualify, since he was born with the talent.
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They should be peak human/superhuman in relation to the weapon, you can be a superhuman gunslinger and still not achieve what an irl human does with a sniper.
Then you have superhuman snipers that outpace what their gun should be able to do, or shoot ricochet, control the bullet trajectory, have super accuracy, can land shots in movement or midair, defy physics and such, even if to a lesser, yet supernatural degree.
Then you have superhuman snipers that outpace what their gun should be able to do, or shoot ricochet, control the bullet trajectory, have super accuracy, can land shots in movement or midair, defy physics and such, even if to a lesser, yet supernatural degree.
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I get the feeling that this will be hard to police and users are just going to put marksmanship on every person who uses a gun. I can bet my left nut that someone like Walter White is gonna end up having this because they use a gun. 
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- There's only 21 confirmed sniper kills in history to have happened at a range of over 1250 meters, with the greatest being at 3540.
- Simo Häyhä, known as possibly the deadliest sniper in history, killed over 500 enemy soldiers in less than one year of service, all of this without a scope.
- Olympic shooters and archers are capable of reliably hitting tiny targets at long distances.
- Bob Munden can draw a revolver and accurately tag multiple targets in one tenth of a second, as well as shoot coins out of the air.
- Bill Hays can hit small targets blowing in the wind with a slingshot at almost 40 feet of distance.
- David Adamovich can throw over 100 knives in one minute all with great accuracy.
- The world record holder for axe throwing can hit a target at over 27 meters of distance.
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I'd say the baseline should be around them yeah, maybe a hair under since they're all done under favorable conditions.
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I'd call them guide examples rather than strict baseline, but yeah. They should be added to the page along with the caveats Armor mentioned.
Yes, this are top-notch examples of superhuman marksmanship with different items.
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Absolutely
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If they can qualify, can Bobby and Penny?
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i simply have no clue 
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Would Chell qualify for this? There's some sections in the games that require you to hit shots in motion, off the top of my head i can think of this
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Daisuke Jigen, Koichi Zenigata, Fujiko Mine and Lupin III should count, especially the former.
Also its Weapon Mastery still required for characters who its skilled in using types of firearms or Marksmanship alone can be applied with all range weapons?
Also its Weapon Mastery still required for characters who its skilled in using types of firearms or Marksmanship alone can be applied with all range weapons?
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You can have both, or one or the other. Marksmanship doesn’t necessarily use weapons.
If the character is good at using a weapon, then weapon mastery. Being good at a weapon doesn’t mean they hit incredible shots.
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So does Simo qualify or not?
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Links are broken.
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what about now?
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If it has been replicared by humanity then no.
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I definitely think peak human stuff should be included
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I think Simo should be included.
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I made some in my view structural improvements to the page, in order to better clarify this:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Marksmanship?type=revision&diff=8167910&oldid=8157494
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If a gif for the page is needed this scene could be used as it's only 6 second long and show both a good accuracy and planning ahead (as the balls that hit the other balls where fired simultaneously with the first shot that redirected the guy gun). Another good option could be this shot from Roland (who was already mentioned in this thread) that last 3 seconds, or some of the the scenes from the Wanted movie (although I don't have an specific clip in mind as there are various scenes).
