Ness vs Sayaka Miki

[Schnee_One]

The magical girls got even more powerful, now is a better time than any.

Speed is Equal, open field, 7C versions.

Sayaka Miki:

Ness:

 

[Kaltias]

I think that this might come down to AP. How far into 7-C is Ness?

 

[Schnee_One]

I believe Ness is baseline.

 

[Kaltias]

Then Sayaka probably. Attacks that one shot baseline people do nothing to her (and she is a glass cannon).

Ness's status effects are countered by Sayaka's status resistance and mind resistance. Main problem is his attack reflection but if Sayaka is higher in the tier she can probably brute force her way trough it.

Also he doesn't resists statuses himself so sleep manip is dangerous

 

[Chrisras]

Ness>Big bad baddy alien dude>Big bad kraken>Medium bad baddy alien dude>Atomic bomb around 20 kilotons.

Just to clarify.

 

[Kaltias]

Ah, then they are probably even. Sayaka's durability is scaled from no selling an attack that one shot Elly who is at least 6.6 kilotons (the calc is lowballed to an extent). Her AP is far above that to an unknown extent.

Retracting my vote for now

 

[GreyFang82]

You see... here's the problem Ness I think actually has a good advantage with close range battle possibly in ranged combat as well due to his shields attack reflection which cuts the damage he takes and throws the rest back, but the problem he faces is that Ness only kinda has 1 move that might be able to take out Sayaka and that's PK Flash which has a chance to one-shot her but anything else she regens and she also is resistant to status effects so Ness has to do this fight like a straight up slug-fest or spam-fest as he has to constantly spam PK Flash and wait until that 40% chance to one-shot kicks in and heal in order to keep up with her regen. I want to vote for Ness but it's gonna be a really long and hard fight for him. Also Sayaka's life absorption seems to only really kick in post fight (according to the notable tech. portion). If someone else gives a decent argument I might change my vote but for now I'll stick with Ness taking this with VERY High difficulty.

 

[Kaltias]

Would the forcefields block her sleep manipulation?

Also, would PK flash really kill her? Her body is meaningless for her survival, he would need to hit the Soul Gem (which is on the abdomen so admittedly easy to hit)

Actually, Sayaka's life absorption is a side effect of her basic attacks. I think that you are reading the one related to her witch self.

 

[GreyFang82]

Would the forcefields block the sleep maniluation? Possibly, how is it used? Is it attack based? or is it in of itself an attack? Ness has dealt with Sleep Users before but he only resisted it because game mechanics I think, because he is pretty hard to put to sleep in game because it's based on IQ but in this case I don't think he has resistance but his abilities shiled would still be active before he goes to sleep so that gives him some time to recover.

I said PK Flash might be the only thing that can kill her because I saw her regen was MID but if it's based on a gem in her body, then I think Ness could hit it through a slug-fest therefore giving him a bit more of a chance to defeat her, of course he wouldn't know to do that in the beginning but still. Now I think PK Flash might not be his only way of winning but if she does survive a PK Flash (I don't know how) But if she does Ness would see that the gem is what keeps her alive, he's a pretty smart kid he might figure it out. But of course it would still be a long and hard fight until then.

How strong is her Life Absorbing powers?

 

[Kaltias]

It's a soundwave that puts people to sleep.

Sayaka constantly battled people who knew that they had to target the gem (which is 7-C btw) and could attack from multiple directions and survived. Ness will need a serious lucky hit to kill her.

It works on other magical girls who resist the passive life absorption of witches who can progressively drain entire groups of people

 

[GreyFang82]

Sounds like it should work on Ness

Yes but didn't you say she only no selled a 6.6 kiloton attack and saying she can tank a 20 kiloton one is iffy as she doesn't seem to have anything to reduce that damage, so what I'm saying is Ness has a damage advantage, Ness's PK Rockin' also have a high area of effect https://wikibound.info/w/images/thumb/f/ff/Psirockingamma.gif/250px-Psirockingamma.gif So Ness doesn't need too much luck just good aim and time

Yes that's great and all but how fast does it do so? If it isn't instant than Ness should be able to heal himself to make sure he doesn't die from it right away

 

[Kaltias]

Actually, no selled the attack that stomped a character who is 6.6 kilotons.

The effect is instant, but it only takes a portion of life energy with each hit

 

[GreyFang82]

I see...

I really don't know who would win then...

It would see Sayaka has the advantage because of her abilities but I don't think Ness would be an easy person to beat...

Remove my vote for now, I'll have to think this out for now

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Wooooooooow

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1179829?useskin=oasis

 

[Chrisras]

Sounds like it should work on Ness
Yes but didn't you say she only no selled a 6.6 kiloton attack and saying she can tank a 20 kiloton one is iffy as she doesn't seem to have anything to reduce that damage, so what I'm saying is Ness has a damage advantage, Ness's PK Rockin' also have a high area of effect https://wikibound.info/w/images/thumb/f/ff/Psirockingamma.gif/250px-Psirockingamma.gif So Ness doesn't need too much luck just good aim and time

Who wastes Gamma in a crow lmao.

Also does she resist paralysis? As far as I'm aware, that is not a status effect directed to the mind, so resistance to mind manip should not stop it from working.

And to clarify, PK Flash basically just skips the entire battle to the point where the enemy is completly KO.

For example, if Ness and co. fought a robot, the fight would end up with them beating it until the robots turns to scrap metal. With PK Flash, the battle instantly cut to the point where he is turned into scrap metal.

If Ness and co. fought a Zombie, the battle would end in the kids beating the zombie until it turns to dust. With PK Flash the zombie is immediately turn into dust.

If they fought a ghost, the battle would end when they beat the ghost enough until he completly gest melt away. With PK Flash, it instantly melts away.

Thats how PK Flash works.

 

[Kaltias]

She does resist paralysis yes.

That sounds like something that would probably work then

 

[VileShadows]

Would the forcefields block the sleep maniluation? Possibly, how is it used? Is it attack based? or is it in of itself an attack? Ness has dealt with Sleep Users before but he only resisted it because game mechanics I think, because he is pretty hard to put to sleep in game because it's based on IQ but in this case I don't think he has resistance but his abilities shiled would still be active before he goes to sleep so that gives him some time to recover.

I said PK Flash might be the only thing that can kill her because I saw her regen was MID but if it's based on a gem in her body, then I think Ness could hit it through a slug-fest therefore giving him a bit more of a chance to defeat her, of course he wouldn't know to do that in the beginning but still. Now I think PK Flash might not be his only way of winning but if she does survive a PK Flash (I don't know how) But if she does Ness would see that the gem is what keeps her alive, he's a pretty smart kid he might figure it out. But of course it would still be a long and hard fight until then.

How strong is her Life Absorbing powers?

It's based on Luck, not IQ. Your chance to avoid status conditions is Luck/80. If your Luck is 80 or over, you're basically immune to most of the status moves in the game (except a few, like mashroomization, possession, and diamondization). With endgame equipment, Ness' luck (even before Magicant) will easily be 80+.

 

[Schnee_One]

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