Natalie (EBF) vs 666:Satan (TGoGH)

[Kaltias]

Also, do we have a calc for Natalie?

She fought Akro who did this

 

[Jobbo]

By the way, why exactly did you multiply its solar masses by the sun's GBE?

 

[Kaltias]

@Jobbo

She is actually equal to that. They needed the whole team, so if anything Akron is slightly stronger.

@Monarch

I mean, she withstood the singularity already. At that point it isn't really too relevant how massive the black hole is.

 

[Kaltias]

By the way, why exactly did you multiply its solar masses by the sun's GBE?

It's how we calc black holes when they don't involve mass energy

 

[Jobbo]

Anyway, Satan isn't ever going to get to 200 quadrillion clones since the number of clones rises at an exponential rate, and she could just kill him before he makes any or while he only has a few.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

He got off 200 quadrillion before Jin could react.

 

[Jobbo]

Jin was just toasting in the sun watching him do it

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Ok, I just compared their values, and if my maths hasn't failed me, Satan is only "at least 2 kilofoe" or something. This as opposed to Natalie, who is over 29 thousand kilojoules.

This combined with all her other resistances and hax, makes me think this is a stomp. 200 quadrillion clones still won't dent her if they are all individually 15,000 times weaker than her.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Jin was just toasting in the sun watching him do it

Jin wanted Satan dead. He wouldn't have just stood there and watched it happen if it wasn't instant.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Inb4 baseline 4-A upgrades come into play.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Wait, I think my maths has failed me. Or at least google calculator has.

Give me a moment to try and work out their AP again.

 

[Jobbo]

He literally states he was waiting to get some distance from Earth to unleash his full power. Which he still took his sweet time to do even after they got to the sun.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Took his sweet time..?

He used it basically the first chance he got.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I think you need to read the whole comic to understand the context, or at least the arc up until that point.

He was already away from the Earth, and he did unleash his full power once they got to the sun, but not before Satan cloned himself.

 

[Jobbo]

No he didn't use it the first chance he got, he started bragging about spending time in a furnace as hot as the sun as a kid instead of immediately powering up and oneshotting Satan.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Satan had just finished using him as a punching bag, he was catching his breath

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Satan had just finished using him as a punching bag, he was catching his breath

^This

And besides, 250,000X was already taxing on his body enough when he used it the first time, I'm pretty sure he was trying to avoid using it until Satan cloned himself, at which point Mo-Ri was desperate. Rebound is a thing you know.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Rebound is a thing you know.

Unless you're Satan. Then you can just keep using it

 

[Jobbo]

Unlike Jin, Natalie wouldn't be affected by Satan's attacks at all being orders of magnitude stronger than him, and therefore could instantly wipe him out.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Unlike Jin, Natalie wouldn't be affected by Satan's attacks at all being orders of magnitude stronger than him, and therefore could instantly wipe him out.

Uh what

Explain

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Like I said, inb4 4-A Satan.

 

[Jobbo]

He's only 250,000x small star level.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

What's with this Satan spam lately?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Ohhh

Your grammar threw me off. I thought you were saying that Natalie wouldn't be affected by Satan's attacks despite them being orders of magnitude stronger stronger.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

What's with this Satan spam lately?

I asked the same thing myself

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I think it all started with Satan vs Android 21, then I made the infamous Vitiate thread, then it just went on from there.

 

[Jobbo]

Anyway, it's not like Satan opens with cloning. He only did that after Jin provoked him. With the massive AP gap any attack from Natalie should be able to oneshot him, likely before he even gets the opporunity to utilize his extra life. Even if he does, he'd likely still be caught in the AoE of the same attack and die again to it.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Extra life is passive. When he dies, it activates. Also it's fallicious to say he'd be caught in the AoE of an attack when you don't even mention what the attack is.

 

[Jobbo]

It isn't passive, Satan explicitly states he used his extra life right before Jin got him.

 

[Kaltias]

Ok, I just compared their values, and if my maths hasn't failed me, Satan is only "at least 2 kilofoe" or something. This as opposed to Natalie, who is over 29 thousand kilojoules.

This combined with all her other resistances and hax, makes me think this is a stomp. 200 quadrillion clones still won't dent her if they are all individually 15,000 times weaker than her.

Your math has failed you because Natz is 15 times stronger, give or take. She is 29 KiloFoe

 

[Jobbo]

Wait, where'd 2 kilofoe for Satan come from? He'd be 200 foe scaling from the Jupiter feat which would make her nearly 150x stronger than him.