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Nastu Dragneel vs Portgas D Ace.

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Natsu has Igneels power and Speed is Equalized.

I totally didn't get this from DB(BTW blitz stomp)
 
The DB is not really "fair" in that sense. It's like saying "Gaara vs Crocodile". Natsu has the unfair advantage of being able to eat fire to power himself as well as being immune to fire (not sure about this part)? Aces logia intang is pretty usless to that. The only way Ace wins in the DB is if he has superior physical stats.
 
BarryAllen2.0 said:
Natsu has the unfair advantage of being able to eat fire to power himself as well as being immune to fire (not sure about this part)?
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Classic NLF.

Anyway inconclusive
 
Natsu can try to eat Ace and his attacks, but he can not harm him with his flames.

Ace wins if this comes to a physical brawl as nothing else will work, and Natsu can't actually HIT Ace, unless logia dispersion is disabled.

Ace wins. Inconclusive IF logia dispersion is disabled.
 
Natsu can eat Ace's fire as much as he can but that's it. Ace wins if it has to come on brute force and he's intangble unless you have haki which Natsu doesn't possess. Inconclusive if you allow Natsu to hit Ace only for this match.
 
Natsu would win, he could probably bypass Ace's flame body since Natsu was shown to touch and treat fire like in a tangible form. Haki isn't the only counter, exploiting the elemental weakness or make sneak attacks since logias rely on their reflexes to turn intangible.
 
Frozone54666 said:
Aces powers are basically nullified, and if ace can beat natsu with physical strength alone it's a mismatch so pointless match either way
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That makes no sense at all.

Natsu has his fire, Ace has strength, so far the votes point to it not being a mismatch.
 
Natsu's flame resistance and power up by eating them puts Ace in a bad spot. He's only choice is h2h,therefore sacrificing not only AP but also range and AoE.

Natsu also has higher stats so he should be able to take this.
 
Have some of you guys forgotten Natsu's immense strength such as pushing back the giant mechanical dragon in edolas while he was worned out. Also he carried large boulders and even threw them while battling Franmalth. What is Ace's strength level?
 
Natsu: 3 (PhoenixFirestom, ScarletFirefly, Omega998)

Ace: 3 (CinCameron20, Byakuya, BrangiskiBackup)

Inconclusive: 1 (LordAizenSama)

If you don't allow logia dispersion, Ace has one vote and the votes for inconclusive become three. Though I'm confused. Wouldn't verse equalization allow Natsu to hit Ace normally?
 
PhoenixFirestorm said:
Have some of you guys forgotten Natsu's immense strength such as pushing back the giant mechanical dragon in edolas while he was worned out. Also he carried large boulders and even threw them while battling Franmalth. What is Ace's strength level?
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in question of power level both characters are almost equal,the both are large island busters but natsu have slightly strenght advantage
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
If you don't allow logia dispersion, Ace has one vote and the votes for inconclusive become three. Though I'm confused. Wouldn't verse equalization allow Natsu to hit Ace normally?
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Yes, verse equalization takes out Logia intangibility.
 
It's not as if Natsu is no slouch on fighting up close. You guys realize his entire forte is punching and breathing flames right? Of course Ace initially has no idea that his flames would heal and energize Natsu, but it would seriously limit him once he finds out since he becomes aware he cannot use his flames. At the same time logia dispersion puts him at the risk of being eaten. To add on AoE Shockwaves would be annoying against logia users and Natsu has electric attacks too alongside Etherion or whatever one calls that property of his.

Natsu's a bit naive but he's been able to think of up good ideas for a fight. He's not gonna tire against a fire user. Oh Ace relies on physical attacks? Cool. So does Natsu. Oh he can disperse into flames up close to dodge or ambush? He's gonna eat them flames.

Don't sell this dragon short at least. Ace is a favorite of mine but this is an unfair battle.


That said I have no expectations whatsoever of Screwattack. I'm not gonna insult them but they have been known to be inaccurate on their victors.
 
Yes, verse equalization takes out Logia intangibility.

To bad that Screwattack verse equalization is just KI=Chakra=Reishi=whatever resource you are using. Haki is not a resource is an ability.
 
Can we keep this on topic please? If you guys wanna discuss the DB version, there's an app thread for that last time I checked.
 
Stalemate. Natsu eats fire, but doesn't really have much of a way to hurt Ace. Ace doesn't really have a way to put down Natsu either.
 
Also Ace will win since this is onlyhand-to-hand combat(both power are useless against each other and Ace stronger physically than him
 
since when Nastu strong physically like dragon and since when dragons have feat that make them stronger physically than OP's character?

I found calc that put Nastu in K class but nothing about G\M class where it come from?
 
Ryop said:
If Nastu will ate Ace cant Ace just kill him from inside?
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It cannot possible. Then Natsu eat flame it transformed into his magical power. So Ace as well die momentaly if Natsu completly eat him.

I remember Gajeel eat the Magic Barrier Partisical that have the pieces of iron, and his magic adaptation to MBP and his was able to ignore logia body of Bradman, so in that case even if not use the verse equalization, Natsu began ignore logia just by one time eating his flames. Natsu not weaker in physical stats and also his flames is much hotter by feats, so probably he was able to ignore the logia like Akainu because his flames is above Ace's, in all terms - existense (Dragon flames and much stronger than normal), temperature and so on.

So I think Natsu will take this with mid or High-Mid diff
 
I still dont understand why Natsu stronger than Ace the only strength feats i found about Natsu is this and this and nothing of that suppress Ace

Anyway untill someone tell we others feats of him that i dont know i still think Ace will win,Nastu witout his magie really have nothing to do he,he was unable to beat litlle monster and Ace kiss ass this kind of thing evertime
 
LFDM Natsu wins.

Ace can't hurt Natsu with flames and his logia dispersion would be worthless since like that Natsu can absorb him and or his flames while Natsu can hurt him with lightning.
 
Ryop said:
I still dont understand why Natsu stronger than Ace the only strength feats i found about Natsu is this and this and nothing of that suppress Ace

Anyway untill someone tell we others feats of him that i dont know i still think Ace will win,Nastu witout his magie really have nothing to do he,he was unable to beat litlle monster and Ace kiss ass this kind of thing evertime
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I can ask the same thing to ace what make him stronger than natsu? Last time ace just 7B. But now he become high 6C
 
Omega998 said:
Ryop said:
I still dont understand why Natsu stronger than Ace the only strength feats i found about Natsu is this and this and nothing of that suppress Ace

Anyway untill someone tell we others feats of him that i dont know i still think Ace will win,Nastu witout his magie really have nothing to do he,he was unable to beat litlle monster and Ace kiss ass this kind of thing evertime
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I can ask the same thing to ace whay make him stronger than natsu Last time afe just 7B. But now he become high 6C
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Ace stronger than Jinbei who as strong as(or even more) gear seacond TS Luffy and Luffy has G+ class feats since enies lobby arc and that Luffy FAR weaker than gear 2 TS Luffy
 
I can ask the same thing to ace whay make him stronger than natsu Last time afe just 7B. But now he become high 6C

Because OP top tiers are 6-B and Ace fought evenly with Aokiji.
 
I can ask the same thing to ace what make him stronger than natsu? Last time ace just 7B. But now he become high 6C

He was high 7-a last time
 
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