Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[AlternativePrinciple]

I assumed the four Hokage weren't affected because their bodies consisted of White Zetsu, similar to how Yamato fell under the genjutsu once he came out of White Zets

That can also be a reason

 

[Xdsagecat]

It's tertiary canon
It can be used when there's existing showings in the primary canon
For example, if we see a blizzard in the manga and the novel tells us that the blizzard is AZ temperatures, it can be used
But there's no such thing like that in the manga (or anime)
It may be minor but it's a whole new ability from thin air

I got novel canon>anime canon but that's a convo for another day

 

[Testarossa002]

I assumed the four Hokage weren't affected because their bodies consisted of White Zetsu, similar to how Yamato fell under the genjutsu once he came out of White Zets

This is probable, yeah
Except for the small matter of Orochimaru having a white zetsu body and still getting affected

 

[Nierre]

I got novel canon>anime canon but that's a convo for another day

how do you even reconcile the novel being canon over the anime. Like I can understand if people are against the anime being canon... but the novel? ..Which adapts the movie, that is explicitly retconned within the manga continuity?? Not only that but showcasing feats and abilities and fights that just NEVER happened in ANY of the adaptations?

 

[Xdsagecat]

how do you even reconcile the novel being canon over the anime. Like I can understand if people are against the anime being canon... but the novel? ..Which adapts the movie, that is explicitly retconned within the manga continuity?? Not only that but showcasing feats and abilities and fights that just NEVER happened in ANY of the adaptations?

Well I start of with believing the anime isn't canon cuz of the multiple discrepancies and because I don't trust studio pierrot at all.

I follow with acknowledging the novels are canon to the manga cus if this

Therefore Manga>=ln>anime

 

[HelloThere1089]

I get Nierre's point and don't really mind decanonizing the novel currently. But like....the anime has jougan. It has so far, never appeared in anything other than just the anime. So it isn't exactly cut and dry imo. But it is kinda obvious that the author is probably willing to bring things from the anime to the manga more so than from the movie novel that has no relevance at this point in the story. So the anime does feel more canon than the novel.

 

[Nierre]

Well I start of with believing the anime isn't canon cuz of the multiple discrepancies and because I don't trust studio pierrot at all.

dw i dont really care about whether the anime is canon or not my confusion is moreso the novel + yeah sp sucks

Well I start of with believing the anime isn't canon cuz of the multiple discrepancies and because I don't trust studio pierrot at all.

I follow with acknowledging the novels are canon to the manga cus if this

Therefore Manga>=ln>anime

do you have the link to the actual website

 

[Xdsagecat]

dw i dont really care about whether the anime is canon or not my confusion is moreso the novel + yeah sp sucks

do you have the link to the actual website

BORUTO -ボルト- -NARUTO NEXT GENERATIONS- NOVEL

木ノ葉のアカデミー生たちが霧隠れの里へ修学旅行へ出発！　だが“血霧の里”を取り戻そうとする革命家が新・忍刀七人衆とともに戦争を企て……！？　人気エピソードの裏側を描く、ノベライズ第4弾！

j-books.shueisha.co.jp

 

[Nierre]

BORUTO -ボルト- -NARUTO NEXT GENERATIONS- NOVEL

木ノ葉のアカデミー生たちが霧隠れの里へ修学旅行へ出発！　だが“血霧の里”を取り戻そうとする革命家が新・忍刀七人衆とともに戦争を企て……！？　人気エピソードの裏側を描く、ノベライズ第4弾！

j-books.shueisha.co.jp

So how exactly do you reconcile the movie/novel being different from the manga arc. Like what exactly do you take from the movie/ln and what do you disregard

 

[HelloThere1089]

I'd make the decanonizing thread myself if it meant the ugly ass movie momoshiki design would be eradicated from this reality

 

[HelloThere1089]

So how exactly do you reconcile the movie/novel being different from the manga arc. Like what exactly do you take from the movie/ln and what do you disregard

I know you didn't ask me, but I wanna say that we should keep things from the novels that have also appeared in the other iterations to gain more context about them. But things that are only in the movie or novel is kinda hard, because they might not be contradictory themselves, but they don't appear anywhere else. So it becomes hard to argue that the author did have those things in his vision when they never appear again.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Isn’t the jougan just Byakugan as of recent chapters?

 

[HelloThere1089]

Isn’t the jougan just Byakugan as of recent chapters?

We kinda sorta don't know. It is currently the byakugan in the manga yes. But we don't know if it was byakugan in the first chapter.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

We kinda sorta don't know. It is currently the byakugan in the manga yes. But we don't know if it was byakugan in the first chapter.

Has it even been seen since the Nue arc? I don’t watch the anime. Only read.

 

[Xdsagecat]

So how exactly do you reconcile the movie/novel being different from the manga arc. Like what exactly do you take from the movie/ln and what do you disregard

Is fused Momoshiki's design shown anywhere in the novel? I think the novel of the movie is canon to the manga, not the movie itself.

Also I think there's an argument to be made that things can occur off panel, but its a pretty weak argument lol.

 

[Nierre]

Also I think there's an argument to be made that things can occur off panel, but its a pretty weak argument lol.

I think that could be valid, depends on what it is ofc

Is fused Momoshiki's design shown anywhere in the novel?

The novel describes the fused transformation being monstrous/grotesque iirc, so it's definitely the movie version that the novel adapts.

I think the novel of the movie is canon to the manga, not the movie itself.

The screenshot you posted lists the movie as part of the timeline

 

[Nierre]

Has it even been seen since the Nue arc? I don’t watch the anime. Only read.

It was in the Urashiki arc but that arc is............


it was shown against momoshiki in the anime, and it also was shown in the last episode but that was definitely just to tease.

 

[Xdsagecat]

The screenshot you posted lists the movie as part of the timeline

I'm pretty sure it's the LN of the movie not the movie itself

 

[Nierre]

I'm pretty sure it's the LN of the movie not the movie itself

The text in yellow (in the original screenshot you posted), says "Boruto Naruto The Movie (A formidable enemy attacks the Chunin Exams)" translated via google.

There's no reference to the novel at all. That photo is the poster for the movie, it's not indicative of the novel.