Rasengan's AP can also be dropped to the point where Jiraiya can use it against borderline randoms, and it just carves up a bit of their clothes and sends them flying.
Yes, and they didn't get back up to continue being a nuisance to them. They were incapacitated sufficiently. You bringing this up further proves my point. Your argument, if we're being 1:1, essentially is saying Jiraiya used SM Enhanced Rasengan's to achieve the same feat as stated. That's nonsensical as, if he is so much superior with Rasengan, SM Enhanced Rasengan's aren't necessary.
Why would one AP attack assert dominance?
Don't play dumb. This isn't even the first instance of this type of showing at any level of the Naruto/Boruto Franchise.
Kawaki got literally knocked out by Boruto punching him, and still kept chasing him afterwards.
False. Kawaki wasn't "knocked out". His Base was defeated/overpowered and he resorted to using Kv1. The situation isn't even the same.
The people in Nard regularly fight people who are stronger than they are with sheer stubbornness because of how strongly they believe in their purpose to fight even unwinnable battles.
And likewise, there have been routine instances of a single jutsu ending fights throughout the franchise without killing. Two things can be true at the same time.
Plus, Boruto wasn't just trying to make him surrender; he wanted information.
Bro, wtf is this insane framing? You're literally arguing a standard Rasengan could possibly be > the Uzuhiko used against Code. The "reasoning" (And I will address it still) doesn't matter. Why? It's because your argument inherently asserts Boruto could produce standard Rasengan's that could dominate/incapacitate WKC.
So now, if you're reasoning is, "Boruto wanted information", you have to answer the question of what sense does it make for Uzuhiko to be used if the end result, "Code being incapacitated" would be the same.
There is no sensical argument in the world you could make that would assert Boruto would have no leverage to negotiate being taken to the Ten-Tails if he just one tapped Code at his strongest with a standard Rasengan. Period. We literally just saw this exact scenario happen with Jura vs Code.
This is why I said, "Don't play dumb", to your earlier remark, and further more, it doesn't change the fact that that it would force Code to retreat the same way. He's tried to retreat as soon as Borushiki asserted superiority. Kawaki Kv2 asserted superiority. Jura asserted superiority. Hell, he even thought about it before Kawaki shrank his claw marks after Boruto hit him with Uzuhiko.
Just because Code lost doesn't mean he would just tell Boruto everything he wanted to know.
Of course. Reread my responses. Nowhere is this my argument...
Losing bc Boruto was stronger than him doesn't prove Boruto infallible, Code could very much just try something else to try and beat Boruto.
Head canon. Code has nothing else beside Claw Marks, Claws and Physicals and his entire showings in the NNG Manga and TBV says he wouldn't do otherwise.
That's too linear a mindset imo
That's nonsense. If you assert Uzuhiko was necessary and nothing else, you're inherently arguing a standard Rasengan from Boruto wouldn't have incapacitated Code to the point of retreat. We're not even talking about the narrative context of Uzuhiko being an enhanced Rasengan and not just due to the psychological effects. I implore you to read the database again.
There's nothing we've seen so far that implies Boruto is so vastly superior to Code that he can incapacitate with one attack like the Rasengan.
So why are so quick to defend that Uzuhiko not being scaled over it? You're Contradicting yourself now. Now you're arguing Boruto w/ Rasengan doesn't have the power to incapacitate Code, yet when I ask, can that specific Uzuhiko be scaled over Boruto's Base Rasengan, you argue "No", because Boruto can adjust the Chakra he inputs internally and energy it absorbs externally.
But if you're conceding Boruto doesn't have the showings to suggest he can incapacitate Code w/ a Standard Rasengan, then YOU HAVE NO BASIS to suggest "No" to that specific Uzuhiko used against Code scaling over Boruto's standard Rasengan. Narratively, it's implied that it does.
Not to mention, it was a race against time for Boruto before the Shinju were born.
So why would he use a Jutsu with more restrictions and a charge time if it isn't stronger than his regular Rasengan at its uncharged level?
Are you starting to see my point? Where is the logic in using Uzuhiko when you could just do what you did to Ao for example and then negotiate? Ah, but since you are now saying Boruto doesn't the showings to suggest that, then it makes more sense for that Uzuhiko to be used, right? Not only would it be stronger due to the Energy absorbed, but then the added mental effects.
This is why I asked the question... It's Standard Rasengan + Energy. Meaning it hits harder than a standard rasengan, and the added effects are a plus.
- Hurting Code with a Rasengan wouldn't stop the fighting.
Depends on how hurt he is. If you're arguing he could potentially produce Standard Rasengan's > that Uzuhiko, he'd be extremely hurt. Again, look back at Code's record. He opted to not even engage a peer adversary whom wasn't even "stronger" than him when Boruto started using TE before Momoshiki took over.
This is where I start getting irritated because you clearly misread my stance and are now putting words in my mouth. I implore you to go back reread my positions again. No where have I stated or implied Code being "Knocked out".
- Killing Code ofc wasn't an option.
Duh... Why even being this up?
- Asserting sheer dominance by flexing speed, power, chakra, etc., could have just made Code retreat via his claw marks or try more underhanded tactics to win.
Uzuhiko literally forced Code to retreat because he was incapacitated by the mental effect. Not only that, but again, you keep arguing Code would try this or that, no... Look at his record. His actions. He opts to retreat wholesale if he can when faced against peer adversaries (TE Boruto) or characters strong enough to dominate him (Borushiki, Kv2 Kawaki, Jura, Daemon).
Please stop making that argument. It's baseless.
What Boruto needed was a way to stop Code from resisting altogether while still keeping him conscious, something that would force him into an ultimatum where Code could recognize that there was no way out of this, and something that he couldn't escape by just teleporting out, and something that would get the point across fast.
Your stance is betrayed by the fact that Boruto/Koji planned for Code not to negotiate, even though incapacitated by Uzuhiko, which is why the Frog Plot was initiated incase he retreated, which he did.
So your point is moot as Code chose to retreat in spite of Uzuhiko and has shown in the past to retreat from near or superior power to his own.
So it wouldn't matter either way. The POINT I'm making is that Uzuhiko's Force > Standard Rasengan's due to the fact Uzuhiko is needed to incapacitate Code, and if you argue that No, a Standard Rasengan can be stronger than that Uzuhiko, then you're arguing inherently that Boruto could potentially incapacitate Code without Uzuhiko, which contradicts the entire point of using Uzuhiko logically and narratively.
Uzuhiko hits every checkbox
Sure, you're still missing the point.
The other methods are just unreliable in getting exactly what he wants as fast as possible.
This is a nonsensical statement. In what world is Uzuhiko a "faster" and more "efficient" option than using a Standard Rasengan if you believe they can be made to be stronger than Uzuhiko?
"Yeah, just let me use this restrictive attack that I have to charge vs simply a stronger, less restrictive attack that results in the same goals of Incapacitation and/or retreat."
Not to mention, with Koji's Prescience on his side, Boruto probably had some idea of the multiple avenues the Code interaction could play out and just chose the most efficient and least risky option for meeting all of his goals quickly.
Uzuhiko is never going to be more efficient or less risky than a standard rasengan, brother. Literally, what Makes Uzuhiko a force to be reckon with is it's power and the effect. And you are here trying to discount it power used against Code.
Also, conversely, the inverse is "at least" equal in that, Koji with Prescience saw that Only Uzuhiko could incapacitate Code and force a retreat, which discounts Rasengan potentially being stronger than it inherently as if Uzuhiko is needed, Rasengan by itself wouldn't be able to produce the same outcome.
As far as your point that it was all a ploy to make him go to the Juubi and follow him, I still think Boruto is trying to act outside of what prescience expects to happen.
I disagree. Boruto only really shows that urge in regards to protecting his loved ones (Hima, Konohamaru, Sarada, etc.) He pretty much followed Koji's plan to a T until he started panicking against the Shinju.
If he can solve it all by talking to Code, I very much think he wished that were the case and tried to reason with him, he even freed him and thought Code would help him with the Shinju, and when he didn't, Boruto was surprised.
Sure, to a degree I think Boruto would prefer that, but he's already shown he wasn't opposed to violence off rip. And after everything Code did and was still trying to do, I don't see a reason for Boruto to be less likely to kill him vs the Shinju. And he only releases Code out of mutual survival, not mercy or anything like that. Enemy of my enemy is my friend type ish
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