This is just a fundamental misunderstanding of the manga if you believe this. I'll address your below points now.
Naruto had no killing intent against Delta. Serious or not, it's irrelevant to the point that Killing Intent Naruto and Sasuke are relative to Kv1 Jigen, and no, he is not >= them (Scans
1,
2, etc). And please don't start with the nonsensical take that because Naruto commented on his strength
here it means he's "
stronger" to a degree. That's not how that works. Naruto is an extremely bad match-up against Jigen due to his abilities but in regards to Strength and Speed, they are relative and there is nothing you can point to, to say otherwise.
The feats speak for themselves.
This likewise doesn't change the above, and yes, Jigen had
killing Intent.
Doesn't matter, Code isn't Stronger than Kv1 Jigen, whom Naruto and Sasuke are Relative to in Stats.
Except he can't logically "
conclude anything" as he doesn't know how strong Naruto is without Kurama, by his own words in the scan. You can't
conclude anything on unknowns, and his opinion on Code killing Naruto isn't trustworthy as he had a vested interest in making Kawaki want Karma to protect Naruto. (Scans:
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8). Now, in the face of this context, one can remain willfully ignorant or recognize that you cannot take Amadou's word at face value for the purposes of scaling as his entire goal hinged on Kawaki wanting karma, and to that end, knowing how Kawaki
feels about Naruto, makes anything he tells Kawaki about Naruto unusable for scaling purposes.
The only thing you can take to the bank is that Code > Delta.
It was manipulation, the evidence is clear and it's irrelevant that Code > Delta when Kv1 Jigen > Code and killing Intent Naruto and Sasuke are relative to Jigen. This is based on feats, and I'll tell you again, you cannot logically conclude on something that is an unknown. I cannot stress how fallacious it is to assert that A, you don't know how much power Character X has and then B, conclude that Character Y will kill Character X because of it. You cannot logically get from point A to B in this scenario because your point of reference is an unknown.
And Naruto's feats against Jigen informs the reader of the extent to which he held back against Delta.
FACTS:
- Naruto is relative in stats to Kv1 Jigen.
- Naruto held back against Delta.
- Amado states a fight with Code wouldn't go the same as with Delta.
- Amado doesn't know how much weaker Naruto is w/o Kurama.
You cannot get Code over Naruto and Sasuke with these facts. You have to rely on a fallacious and untrustworthy opinion from Amado to do so.
False. Kurama's Chakra Strength (Around Founders Level) is insignificant to the strength Naruto has as a byproduct of having half of Hagoromo's SPC, and the subsequent training they did to get even more power. Yes, Naruto loses his Intent Sensing, a Reliable Chakra Cloak, Chakra Arms, TBB and possibly his healing factor) but the "strength" Kurama Provided Naruto is a drop in the Ocean compared to the strength of his SPC. Let's not forget, "Cloaked SPSM Naruto" is them "
Linking" (
Part 2) their chakra together.
This is something 100% Kurama by itself wouldn't be able to enable Naruto to do or survive. Yes, I understand the statement, but it's extremely inconsistent with literally everything that came before. Juubito (With Minor Effort) > War Arc BSM Naruto > 100% Kurama.
It doesn't matter. You're missing the point. You're under a misconception that Kurama Mode is solely the strength of Kurama. It is a Linking of Naruto and Kurama's Chakra and Naruto's Chakra is far stronger than Kurama's after receiving SPC. Example: Post-War Naruto is 8, Kurama is 2, Naruto Linking with Kurama is 10. Pre Hagoromo intervening, it would be the inverse.
Irrelevant. Code is already accepted as > Delta.
Code also believed Boro > Delta. Outside of Regen & Viruses, Boro would get Blitzed and One Shotted. Code is cocky & bragging and he isn't a trustworthy source.
Case in point.
Case in point x2. If you're gonna keep pushing this narrative, you have to prove Limited Code > Kv1 Jigen. Being > Delta is irrelevant when Naruto was holding back.
Nothing says Kawaki is "stronger" than Naruto or Sasuke stat wise. You're attempting to extrapolate that Narrative without applying Context.
- Again, Amado doesn't know how strong Naruto or Sasuke are without Rinnegan or Kurama. His own words.
- Naruto himself is unwilling to Kill Kawaki.
- Even if Naruto did, Kv2 Kawaki is in the same ballpark as Naruto & Sasuke and as shown, Naruto himself is a bad Match-Up against Isshiki's Abilities.
- As with Naruto, Sasuke and Kv2 Kawaki are in the same ballpark. Isshiki's abilities are hard for Sasuke to counter as well, but likewise, given the Sharingan, it wouldn't be easy for Kawaki either.
- Shikamaru literally states the reasoning is because he can absorb Jutsu and shrink himself. That's not evidence.
There is no option on the table for restraining or checking Kawaki's power other than Killing him, and yes, even the prospect of killing him is difficult because his abilities make it hard for Naruto or Sasuke to do just that, but even then, Naruto doesn't have the will to kill Kawaki and wouldn't let Sasuke do it either. You have to take these things into consideration when doing this. Context is king.
Based on FEATS, Borushiki and Rinnegone Sasuke are relative (
And I explained why in a previous post).
I hate VC debating
