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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Nierre said:
You guys cool if I make a CRT making Daemon (and Ada) Standard Equipment for pre timeskip Code? He uses Daemon to reflect Kawaki's attack, and Daemon even asks to crush them meaning he was going to fight, but Code told him not to
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They have standard equipment?
 
DavidTPPM said:
It took me like 13 whole seconds to realize "MinatoSparkle" is Alan when I first made an account on the wiki, he ain't different at all 💔
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I was more skeptical cuz at first I didn’t see “Alan” speak so I just trusted it was sparkle seeing the Minato sth sth in bio
 
Nierre said:
You guys cool if I make a CRT making Daemon (and Ada) Standard Equipment for pre timeskip Code? He uses Daemon to reflect Kawaki's attack, and Daemon even asks to crush them meaning he was going to fight, but Code told him not to
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Yeah, never really came to me that they were basically part of his arsenal lol especially Daemon
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Welp, nvm… I still see no reason Kaguya herself, with no explanations or implications is immune to TSB (Which would be Shinjutsu TBH) and other Otsutsuki are not.
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TSBs could possibly be Shinjutsu if it originated with the Otsutsuki. If it's something connected to bijuu chakra, then it's not shinjutsu. Bijuu (Ten Tails) and Otsutsuki seem to be different sides of the same coin.
 
Damage3245 said:
Here's a thought... Why didn't Momoshiki and Kinshiki have Karma implanted in someone as a back-up on another world?
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Karma doesn't have a good survival rate. However, there's still more to Momoshiki that hasn't been told.
 
Godernet said:
I mean Kaguya was the “Juubi”

Which produced all the Six Paths Chakra that gave the Juubi Jin’s their immunity to TSO

We know from Obito you keep that Six Paths Chakra even after you die so Kaguya probably has it due to her status as the juubi
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Kaguya wasn't the "juubi" per say. She just shared consciousness and body with it, and controlled it similar to other juubi jins, but hers was more advanced.
 
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UchihaSlayer96 said:
The TSO is an ability that falls under the umbrella of Six Paths Senjutsu, which originates from Kaguya.
Every person that has it or resists it is either a Six Paths senjutsu user, a direct descendant of one, has received chakra directly from one, and/or any combination of the above. It's that simple.
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Six Paths is clearly something tied to the Juubi more than Kaguya. Even Jura possesses the markings akin to Six paths senjutsu. However. Kaguya could likely be the originator of TSO.
I don't even think Otsutsuki gods used them, since they created worlds differently.
 
Kayzz said:
Six Paths is clearly something tied to the Juubi more than Kaguya. Even Jura possesses the markings akin to Six paths senjutsu. However. Kaguya could likely be the originator of TSO.
I don't even think Otsutsuki gods used them, since they created worlds differently.
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I mean, considering that Kaguya was the Juubi, and that Six Paths senjutsu originated with her, it's clearly all tied together. If Jura is revealed to have Six Paths Senjutsu (I really hope so), that'd be cool and maybe we'll learn more then.
 
Kayzz said:
TSBs could possibly be Shinjutsu if it originated with the Otsutsuki.
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It Originated with Kaguya.
Kayzz said:
If it's something connected to bijuu chakra,
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TSB’s are all Elements + Yin/Yang. Nothing to do with Tailed Beast Chakra, and Hagoromo had them before becoming a Jinchuriki and Hamura/Toneri had them without anything dealing with Tailed Beast.
Kayzz said:
Bijuu (Ten Tails) and Otsutsuki seem to be different sides of the same coin.
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You haven’t actually proven anything I said wrong.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
It Originated with Kaguya.

TSB’s are all Elements + Yin/Yang. Nothing to do with Tailed Beast Chakra, and Hagoromo had them before becoming a Jinchuriki and Hamura/Toneri had them without anything dealing with Tailed Beast.

You haven’t actually proven anything I said wrong.
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You are replying like I was trying to prove you wrong when I was giving the possibilities available to your reply.

TSBs can as well be a skill tied to Bijuu chakra similar to the tailed beast bomb which is yin-yang combo. Chakra can carry skill information and translate it down to descendants. Hagoromo and Hamura already inherited the juubi's chakra from birth, and that's why the god tree was trying to reclaim it. Kaguya had full-on merged with the Ten Tails during her pregnancy. Chakra and skill can trickle down many generations just like with Woodstyle appearing in Hashirama. And we know woodstyle is juubi/shinju skill. So Toneri awakening TSO is very likely frkm being blood-line related to kaguya who became one with the juubi.

I can see it being Shinjutsu only if it's something the Otsutsuki gods use. However, it being called six paths senjutsu makes it doubtful since Amado clearly seperated shinjutsu from senjutsu and ninjutsu.
 
Hello everyone, pardon me for asking this question for research purposes, but how big is a composite Naruto cosmology if we don't take crossovers into consideration? Is it Multiverse level in size or is it Multiverse level+ in size?
 
Kayzz said:
Six Paths is clearly something tied to the Juubi more than Kaguya. Even Jura possesses the markings akin to Six paths senjutsu. However. Kaguya could likely be the originator of TSO.
I don't even think Otsutsuki gods used them, since they created worlds differently.
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The Ten-Tails consumed an Ōtsutsuki and became the god Tree, which produced a chakra fruit. Kaguya ate that fruit, gaining its power. She then passed part of this chakra/chakra type to her sons, Hagoromo and Hamura, both of whom could use TSO. Much later, Kaguya fused with the god-tree and only then did it transform back into the Ten-Tails.
Hamura had TSO without ever being a Ten-Tails jinchūriki. Same goes for Toneri, and even Hagoromo had them before becoming the Ten-Tails’ host. In Naruto The Last, Toneri didn’t need to become a jinchūriki to manifest TSO. All he needed was human Byakugan and Ōtsutsuki chakra not Ten-Tails chakra.
Plus, we know that Momoshiki and Isshiki consumed multiple chakra fruits grown from Ten-Tails god-trees, so them having TSO makes perfect sense.
 
3 of the top 4 at the time in one page 🙀
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MichaelCalistro said:
Hello everyone, pardon me for asking this question for research purposes, but how big is a composite Naruto cosmology if we don't take crossovers into consideration? Is it Multiverse level in size or is it Multiverse level+ in size?
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shouldn't be below 2C, possibly Low 1C or higher with the Higher Realms


compositing the verse is of no use since the highest arguments are from all the canon material
 
Samlex1234 said:
The Ten-Tails consumed an Ōtsutsuki and became the god Tree, which produced a chakra fruit. Kaguya ate that fruit, gaining its power. She then passed part of this chakra/chakra type to her sons, Hagoromo and Hamura, both of whom could use TSO. Much later, Kaguya fused with the god-tree and only then did it transform back into the Ten-Tails.
Hamura had TSO without ever being a Ten-Tails jinchūriki. Same goes for Toneri, and even Hagoromo had them before becoming the Ten-Tails’ host. In Naruto The Last, Toneri didn’t need to become a jinchūriki to manifest TSO. All he needed was human Byakugan and Ōtsutsuki chakra not Ten-Tails chakra.
Plus, we know that Momoshiki and Isshiki consumed multiple chakra fruits grown from Ten-Tails god-trees, so them having TSO makes perfect sense.
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Okay let's put every bit into perspective from Boruto's new info:

When Otsutsuki take chakra (especially from the Ten Tails/God tree) they get empowered and evolve into more and more powerful Otsutsuki until they reach final form (Otsutsuki god)
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When Juubi take chakra (especially from Otsutsuki) they get empowered and evolve into more and more powerful Ten Tails till they reach their final stage (God Tree)
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From description by Black Zetsu, Kaguya became the God tree herself. This is not the way Otsutsuki evolve, so I think Kaguya did more than just consume the chakra fruit. After all she likely has been consuming chakra fruit for eons with Isshiki and didn't evolve becoming the god tree. So I suspect she must have been the first to seal Ten-Tails into her body, not Hagoromo. The Ten Tails sharing body and consciousness must have altered the direction of her evolution.

Some of Kaguya's abilities seem to deviate from the ones we see with the Otsutsuki. Most notably the one she can directly turn into the ten tails. And if we consider TSO to be six paths senjutsu, which is knowledge and skill of manipulating six paths chakra to create sage techniques, then it's not something Otsutsuki use naturally. Amado clearly seperated sage techniques from shinjutsu.
The Otsutsuki still have six paths chakra though from consuming chakra fruits, but they utilise it for their base abilities and shinjutsu.

Now there's still a possibility that the god tree and Otsutsuki god is the same being, just functioning differently. Two sides of the same coin. So I don't know. Till we get Shibai stuff.
 
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Can I ask why a lot of you on the Wiki shifted from just saying “BM” or “Biju Mode” to KCM2 or MKCM2?

It was not like this on the wiki years ago and BM is the superior designation in referencing the form… 😓
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
shouldn't be below 2C, possibly Low 1C or higher with the Higher Realms


compositing the verse is of no use since the highest arguments are from all the canon material
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Jesus, so composite Naruto's cosmology is smaller in size compared to composite Dragon Ball's cosmology, composite Bleach's cosmology, and composite Saint Seiya's cosmology.
 
MichaelCalistro said:
Jesus, so composite Naruto's cosmology is smaller in size compared to composite Dragon Ball's cosmology, composite Bleach's cosmology, and composite Saint Seiya's cosmology.
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a ninja anime having a smaller cosmology than saint seiya is not the own you think it is 😭


And no bleach does not have a bigger cosmology (or at least it doesn’t it’s not on a higher tier)
 
Arc doesn’t care (and likely doesn’t even think bleach is tier 1 cuz you’d need to heavily misinterpret the muken sjit and how higher dimensions work just to reach there)
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Arc doesn’t care (and likely doesn’t even think bleach is tier 1 cuz you’d need to heavily misinterpret the muken sjit and how higher dimensions work just to reach there)
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The Blaach thread were trying to convince this poor guy Bleach is 7D and some offshoot Bleach game has outerversal scaling…
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Arc doesn’t care (and likely doesn’t even think bleach is tier 1 cuz you’d need to heavily misinterpret the muken sjit and how higher dimensions work just to reach there)
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Hasty12345 said:
The Blaach thread were trying to convince this poor guy Bleach is 7D and some offshoot Bleach game has outerversal scaling…
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damn, bleach fans are really wanking the shit out of their verse. I thought that was our job
 
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