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How would UES things play into things if I were to harm a 6C character with a chakra amped kunai instead of my punches
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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they'd probably still scale
if it was a nature element infused Kunai like Raiton or Futon, it might be a downscale for physicals but still scale to other ninjutsu
MinatoSparkle
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I mean it is literally just normal chakra compressed and concentrated so it makes sense
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Yeah, I suppose so.
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???
HelloThere1089
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A very layered slander. I like it. Good job ghost.
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WHAAAAT, TWO RELATIVES LOOK SIMILAR??????
KISHIMOTO WOULD NE- wait, who's Hizashi? And Kagami Uchiha, you say?
Anyway, Oda would ne- Wait, he made a whole plot point about that?
MinatoSparkle
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The fact that I understand the One Piece one says all you need to know 
Ghostimuscrime
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His low quality baits pissed me off???
If you’re gonna slander a series do it right
EDIT : he later told me he did make the incest joke in another tweet tho
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Ranked hater vs casual hater
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What do y'all think about this Reddit post?
Did he cook?
Did he cook?
HelloThere1089
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His conclusion is correct, but his arguments are trash. For example Naruto tanking chidori being a plot armor, or Naruto not having killing intent not having any effect on his offence.
My point is that you don't need these arguments to say that they're relative to each other. Naruto needed SPSM to contend with Rinnegan Sasuke, and needed NE to contend with biju amped Sasuke. Naruto is slightly stronger both times.
It's also not wrong to say that if the Biju weren't around, Naruto would have been massively stronger due to his access to NE.
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I think he cooked.
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Whole post is either wrong or extreme cope ngl
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You believe Naruto is much stronger than Sasuke during VotE 2?
HelloThere1089
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Depending on if you consider his NE gathering to be more of his own power than 8.5 bijus is to Sasukes, yes quite literally Naruto is massively stronger.
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This is true. Considering that Sasuke 's was a one-time thing.
But without external amps, I'd say that they're relative.
HelloThere1089
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Tbh, I have this contention in these kinda discussions. Is sage mode considered an external amp? I mean NE comes from outside so I guess, but the implication here is that the power isn't his own right? Does that apply to sage mode as well. If so, what about those magic verses that draw magic energy from their environments.
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I personally think it's an external amp since it's not readily available within Naruto's arsenal.
HelloThere1089
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Sage mode? Would you say the same about current adult Naruto?
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Well Sage Mode is different, since it doesn't nearly take as much time and prep to have it be usable.
But idk.
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comfortably stronger than him statwise yes
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HelloThere1089
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Do you include Asura Avatar in this or just SPSM vs Rinnegan Sasuke. I do think having no killing intent nerfed him quite a bit.
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SPSM Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke.
Asura Avatar using is destroying Rinnegan Sasuke without the Bijuu.
HelloThere1089
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Would you call Asura Avatar an external amp but not Sage Mode? I mean it might not be his standard toolkit, but external amp? I've seen this quite a lot in reddit. Equating Asura Avatar with the Biju amp that Sasuke got. Because imo Asura Avatar can be pulled out in any cross verse fight, given the location has NE. But if it doesn't then Sage Mode would be off limits as well but they don't treat it that way which confuses me.
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SM and SPSM can be entered in seconds by Naruto himself.
Asura Avatar as far as we've seen needed a Kurama to amass Nature Energy off screen using a Bijuu Clone for a bit to work.
they're both external amps but SPSM is accessible instantly for him to use at any time.
equating it to Sasuke with the Bijuu is nonsense tho, Naruto can set up Asura Path almost whenever, Sasuke would need to hunt down the other Bijuu to even use his Six Path Susano'o.
One needs a decent bit of prep before the fight, the other does not.
HelloThere1089
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Yeah, my thoughts as well
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So like at what point do we go the anime isn't canon/it's two separate canons? Like if Nue never shows up or is mentioned does that make it so?
MinatoSparkle
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Weightless Lee>Weighted Lee>>Post-LoW Naruto<Preliminaries Naruto<Military Rations Kiba
Lee has a higher assertion and has much more impressive feats, being able to punch partially through thin layers of Gaara's sand shield
Lee has a higher assertion and has much more impressive feats, being able to punch partially through thin layers of Gaara's sand shield
MinatoSparkle
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Hm, someone just pointed out something very interesting. Juubito can nullify any ninjutsu, but he didn't nullify the FTG mark that Tobirama placed on him 
XSOULOFCINDERX
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That is odd since his transformation got rid of the one Minato put on him.Hm, someone just pointed out something very interesting. Juubito can nullify any ninjutsu, but he didn't nullify the FTG mark that Tobirama placed on him
MinatoSparkle
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I think that's just cause transforming from his base to JJ form is different from stabilizing
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....Wait a minute, do you think that could have also got rid of the contract seal Minato slapped on him?
MinatoSparkle
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I don't think that was really a permanent thing anyways
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It may be a case that the mark is not technically "ninjutsu" itself; the teleporting between marks is and applying the mark is, but the mark itself isn't something that Light-Shadow Style can just nullify. Though if Obito thought about it I'm sure he could have hit himself with the Truth-Seeking Orbs and erased that part of his flesh.Hm, someone just pointed out something very interesting. Juubito can nullify any ninjutsu, but he didn't nullify the FTG mark that Tobirama placed on him
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I only ask because if it did then he can just spam attempted summons of Kurama and cause Naruto to constantly double over in pain like what happened when Madara tried it just before his fight with the Five Kage.
MinatoSparkle
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Nah cause his control was cut off, meaning he'd have to re-establish a connection to do that
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