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I kinda really like Delta vs Android 18 as a matchup ( Z version)

I think 18 wins but like thematically and animation wise it sounds neat, I wonder if Delta has any sprites?
could prob animate something
 
nope, the novel and the anime straight up show us the remnants of an earlier world, desolate forest ect.
I don’t think we are taking about the same dimension. This is the one I am referring to and the novels explicitly state that he had constructed this dimension
im not saying the tree we see in the background is the reason why the planet is empty, im saying that the logic of creating an entire dimension to plant a tree makes no sense from Momoshiki's POV, given we know how Otsutsuki farming works,especially when we know he plants the same kinds of trees on other planets he didnt make. (given they use to have life on them)
As I said before, he made that dimension to trap nard and Create another chakra fruit using all the tailed beasts chakra. We already know that nard absolutely mopes the floor with Momoshiki at base, so momo making a dimension where could peacefully extract nard chakra for as long as he wants without any interference from others doesn’t seem a stretch. Plus he already took chakra from killer bee on earth yet he didn’t directly attack nard, he took his time to Conner and trapped nard to get his chakra because nard was a threat he could not take lightly
tree got destroyed either by Kinshiki's axe or momoshiki's roar, depending on the continuity
Momo destroyed it with the shockwave he made when entering V2
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but IT was always an option for her wasn't it?
Wouldn't it be kinda useless without an already grown God Tree and a native population to use it on?

She made the Zetsu army on top of that because she feared them iirc.
She was able to IT at least 100,000 people based on Obito and BZ's statements

Wouldn't that just mean that the normal IT chakra would still be below Momoshiki,
I don't think the Chakra she received from the first IT was that potent in quality nor quantity

and she wanted the zetsu army to feed the god tree in order for her to get more output.
Is this from the anime or a book?
 
I don’t think we are taking about the same dimension. This is the one I am referring to and the novels explicitly state that he had constructed this dimension
yes its the same dimension, you can see the dead trees in the picture you posted.

also i have no idea who translated that blurry scan but its not great, it comes off as like a machine learning direct translation, its full of errors
As I said before, he made that dimension to trap nard and Create another chakra fruit using all the tailed beasts chakra.
i addressed this in the previous comment
We already know that nard absolutely mopes the floor with Momoshiki at base, so momo making a dimension where could peacefully extract nard chakra for as long as he wants without any interference from others doesn’t seem a stretch.
as oppose to just taking him to one of the pre existing planets momoshiki knows of?
Plus he already took chakra from killer bee on earth yet he didn’t directly attack nard, he took his time to Conner and trapped nard to get his chakra because nard was a threat he could not take lightly
Im not sure what you mean here.
Momo destroyed it with the shockwave he made when entering V2
in the manga, in the novels and movie its different
 
yes its the same dimension, you can see the dead trees in the picture you posted.

also i have no idea who translated that blurry scan but its not great, it comes off as like a machine learning direct translation, its full of errors

i addressed this in the previous comment

as oppose to just taking him to one of the pre existing planets momoshiki knows of?

Im not sure what you mean here.

in the manga, in the novels and movie its different
I am leave it here, gotta go to sleep as it’s already getting pretty late.
 
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Yes its the same dimension, you can see the dead trees in the picture you posted.

also i have no idea who translated that blurry scan but its not great, it comes off as like a machine learning direct translation, its full of errors

i addressed this in the previous comment

as oppose to just taking him to one of the pre existing planets momoshiki knows of?

Im not sure what you mean here.

in the manga, in the novels and movie its different
When Otsutsuki refers to a nursery or seed bed they are talking about the entire planet. Also, the translated scan you are talking about was done years ago. You can find it below. In the anime he also mentioned that he created the planet.

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However, they refer to it as a parallel dimension and not a universe. But it is pretty much the same interpretation.
 
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for ease of writing ill just call them dimensions, but im not making any judgement on size, these are the first that come to mind for me

1. Main Universe
2. Kaguya's 6 dimensions
3. Momoshiki's dimension
4. Kara Dimension
5. Ishikki Dimension
6. Urashiki's Time Room
7. Pure Lands
8. Purgatory
9. Hell
10. Otherworld
11. Nue's dimension
12. Limbo Dimension
13.Kamui Dimension
14. Subspace dimension
15. Toad Dimension
16. Shibai dimension (whatever it ends up being)
17. Daikoten dimension

Possible but not confirmed dimensions

1. Shin's Dimension
2. Unknown Dimension where momo and kin harvested dozens of god trees.
Multiverse of Madness
 
Gotta make a crt for that, then we can get above planet levels base nard
You can't
Unlike Kaguya's case where some sort of argument can be made for a timeframe (15 years), there's nothing like that for Momoshiki
Furthermore, you don't even know how he made it. So scaling anyone to it becomes impossible
 
You can't
Unlike Kaguya's case where some sort of argument can be made for a timeframe (15 years), there's nothing like that for Momoshiki
Furthermore, you don't even know how he made it. So scaling anyone to it becomes impossible
Whatever technique he would have used in his base form can not be greater than his strongest technique in his fused state which he claims he can make more of. Since he would also have access to TSO we can deduce that he probably used a similar method to Kaguya and what we will need to calculate is the total energy input (Energy required to create a dimension with a starry sky).

Saying that base Momo who has eaten countless Chakra fruits of an entirely drained planet having a greater energy output per second than Kaguya is not a contentious topic at all since we know that with just one draw of chakra from the IT she was able to gather enough chakra to form the ETSO and she could constantly release low 4c worth per seconds according to the current calc.
 
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Can Shibai beat him tho 😈
His BDE TYPE 2 is not warranted tho. It's meant for those who exceed dimensionality
 
You can't
Unlike Kaguya's case where some sort of argument can be made for a timeframe (15 years), there's nothing like that for Momoshiki
Furthermore, you don't even know how he made it. So scaling anyone to it becomes impossible
Momoshiki timeframe can be argued to be something like 12+ hours, since that is the difference in time between the attacks on nard and killer bee
 
Guys, do Delta and Momoshiki's abilities to absorb ninjutsu with one eye, store it, and release it at will through the other eye still fall under the definitions of "Attack Reflection" on the wiki?
 
Whatever technique he would have used in his base form can not be greater than his strongest technique in his fused state which he claims he can make more of. Since he would also have access to TSO we can deduce that he probably used a similar method to Kaguya and what we will need to calculate is the total energy input (Energy required to create a dimension with a starry sky).

Saying that base Momo who has eaten countless Chakra fruits of an entirely drained planet having a greater energy output per second than Kaguya is not a contentious topic at all since we know that with just one draw of chakra from the IT she was able to gather enough chakra to form the ETSO and she could constantly release low 4c worth per seconds according to the current calc.
Not every hill is worth dying for 💔
 
Is being in indirect contact with the Inferno Style Rasenshuriken's momentum a good physical feat for Tobirama?
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Shibai has every Shinjustu that has been and would be introduced in the story, wow now that is crazy, talk about broken.
 
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You forget the Inner Universe created by Orochimaru when he tried to absorb Sasuke. So, he's universal and from there we scale higher...truste me bro i've read enough xianxia to know when its true plus i've been visited in a dream by Orochimaru who confirmed it while Hogoromo backed him.
 
You forget the Inner Universe created by Orochimaru when he tried to absorb Sasuke. So, he's universal and from there we scale higher...truste me bro i've read enough xianxia to know when its true plus i've been visited in a dream by Orochimaru who confirmed it while Hogoromo backed him.
But would that make him transcend fiction, making both hags and Orochi 1A 😱😱
 
True. Nothing less for Orochimaru. He more or less acomplished his goal of immortality....now its time to transcend further. ... But seriously, kinda hope for a fight for him vs an Otsutsuki or something.
 
So, Orochimaru needs to take a new body every three years because the body rejects his soul and deteriorates, correct?

Zetsu’s body doesn’t deteriorate, so wouldn’t that mean Oro could keep suppressing his soul for eternity and not need to take a new body?
 
So, Orochimaru needs to take a new body every three years because the body rejects his soul and deteriorates, correct?

Zetsu’s body doesn’t deteriorate, so wouldn’t that mean Oro could keep suppressing his soul for eternity and not need to take a new body?
Yes
 
So, Orochimaru needs to take a new body every three years because the body rejects his soul and deteriorates, correct?

Zetsu’s body doesn’t deteriorate, so wouldn’t that mean Oro could keep suppressing his soul for eternity and not need to take a new body?
Do White Zetsu even have souls, aren't the corpses of the previous people who got trapped in IT?
 
since when do we round calc values instead of just giving the exact number?🗿
 
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