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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

MinatoSparkle said:
But it's not just that one moment, throughout the entire fight and even arguably in the Juubidara fight she's SP level, a plot amp is more reasonable than a mental amp given the circumstances. Also she did intentionally act as the diversion, so I wouldn't say her being stabbed means much. She even punched him while shaking faster than Naruto or Sasuke could reach her
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I’m just gonna come out and say it… WA Sakura is weaker than Tsunade still…
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MinatoSparkle said:
That is a cool symbolic way of showing progression; Naruto's back rapidly growing to fill Minato's until he fully embodies him as he reaches his level.
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Idk if my browser is just tripping but half the pics in this thread aren't visible to me
 
Honestly, I think that being in the Kaguya fight just made people stronger out of nowhere. Look at Kakashi. No mental amp has been as good as what him and Obito did, and he's kept that power.
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Idk if my browser is just tripping but half the pics in this thread aren't visible to me
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Can you see it like this
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SlendVeny said:
Honestly, I think that being in the Kaguya fight just made people stronger out of nowhere. Look at Kakashi. No mental amp has been as good as what him and Obito did, and he's kept that power.
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I mean Hiden Kakashi is kinda implied to be weaker
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MinatoSparkle said:
I mean Hiden Kakashi is kinda implied to be weaker
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True, but that's mostly him being sad he lost his best friend, John Chidori.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Hate on me thinking she stayed that strength all you want, but at least it's true that Kaguya fight Sakura is Six Paths level, while WA Sakura being Sub-Tsunade is just patently false
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She isn’t tho, she’s temporarily that level, for a single punch. Hardly the entire fight.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I mean Hiden Kakashi is kinda implied to be weaker
https://media.**********.net/attachments/1247001934242775123/1247019032570363964/main-qimg-e9361c40940dae3d0c3a8de7b6506597.png?ex=66719e39&is=66704cb9&hm=2b8cb026e7c3c77b65b0e857de8bb62154b44246140b7022c36a0281ae483da2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=194
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This was bc he lost confidence and resolve in himself after losing the Sharingan, but he realized during his mission with Might Guy that he has a ton of chakra reserves now that he doesn't have the Sharingan always draining him. And with Shinden he's way more versatile while still maintaining his prior strength. Obviously without the Sharingan he loses the Sharingan advantages, but in doing so he gained alot as well.
 
Plus it's stated despite losing the sharingan he is like 100x times stronger than he was at EOS ( Pre DMS ) from a year of non stop training

Kakashi is just HIM
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
She isn’t tho, she’s temporarily that level, for a single punch. Hardly the entire fight.
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Her punching speed is faster than Naruto and Sasuke likely running at full speed to try to save her (Sasuke might've even been amped by the Chidori Katana), she has more chakra than a SPSM clone, and can partially react to Kaguya's chakra arm which is super fast for Naruto. Pretty sure she's Six Paths level throughout.
SlendVeny said:
True, but that's mostly him being sad he lost his best friend, John Chidori.
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Is that mentioned to be the reason?
 
I wouldn't be surprised if I've heard them, lemme precog a few:
  • distance (for 1 and 3)
  • chakra volume isn't proportional to strength
  • the clone doesn't have nearly as much chakra as the original
  • Sakura wasn't enough on her own, Obito said she'd provide the bare minimum in tandem with Naruto
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Bro went to the opposite extreme as sparkle, doo doo on both ends
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Nah, I can prove it.
  1. Sakura and Tsunade’s strength is a result of Chakra Control as per the DB. Upon having his Chakra sucked out, Sakura is attempting to restore Shikamaru with the Mystic Palm Jutsu but struggling to do so (Even with subconscious aide from Naruto).
  2. NOTE: Mystic Palm works by injecting your Chakra into the patient to stimulate their bodies healing process. Shikamaru in this case was desolate (Not sure if that’s the correct word… 🤔) via chakra drainage (Ala, Nagato w/ Gedou Mazou)
  3. When Tsunade arrives on the battlefield, she instantly does what Sakura has been struggling to do with a simple touch with Mystic Palm, showcasing superior CC and Output, even while using a portion of the Byakugou Seal Chakra to keep herself young.
  4. Hashirama’s Statement: Places Sakura “<=“ a child age Tsunade. He was dead long before she reached her teens, let alone before she started using Byakugou Seal, so we can’t use his statement.
  5. Sakura’s feat against Kaguya is an outlier. Even if we grant her having more Chakra Volume than Half of SPSM Naruto (Assuming he split his chakra evenly in this moment), her chakra strength is still not comparable to to Six Paths Chakra/Power/Senjutsu and it makes no sense for a mental amp to not ONLY surpass Regular SPSM Naruto, but a SR amped SPSM Naruto, whose direct punch did LESS damage to a weaker Kaguya then a Stronger Kaguya w/ Sakura’s punch.
  6. Then, after the fact, cementing Sakura’s feat as an outlier is her admitting inferiority to Sasuke stating she knows she can’t trade blows with the likes of them.
  7. The Last Databook or Novel: I know about the statement in either the Last DB or one of the novels that states Sakura surpassed Tsunade in the war, but unfortunately, the feats in the war do not exist and the statement is contradicted by Tsunade’s feats.
There is no support or consistency to WA Sakura being > Tsunade.

Would’ve posted scans, but… Lazy

😭
 
MinatoSparkle said:
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Her punching speed is faster than Naruto and Sasuke likely running at full speed to try to save her (Sasuke might've even been amped by the Chidori Katana), she has more chakra than a SPSM clone, and can partially react to Kaguya's chakra arm which is super fast for Naruto. Pretty sure she's Six Paths level throughout.

Is that mentioned to be the reason?
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Kishimoto blatantly disagree’s with this take.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Kishimoto blatantly disagree’s with this take.
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I didn't say that Sakura's as strong as Naruto and Sasuke, just that she's Six Paths level. She's strong enough to be a notable assistance for them and isn't hugely stat cliffed, but she's definitely inferior. The raws also could be translated as stab in the back, referencing the moment at the FKS, but it can also be translated as something along the lines of fight each other to the death or stabbing each other or sacrificing to harm the other so I'm not gonna call that some debunk to it.
 
My boy konohamaru
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