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That's because he didn't want to use Shin Susenju on a normal-sized enemy.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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The Databook says that Hashi and Madara were equal in strength, Madara knew this and probably only use Kurama in the hope of break this balance. And it makes sense, but he used it wrongly, using it as a summon was a mistake, clearly he didn't know that the weakness of the bijuus would be precisely the Mokuton, but he should have thought about it, a monster that he himself could easily subdue would clearly be no match for someone of the same level as him. He should have sealed Kurama in himself or just used it as a chakra source, he could even summon it when they were exhausted... anyway, Madara EMS with Kurama in his arsenal is very strong if used well.
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Makes a lotta sense. Kinda like what Sasuke did to Kurama BOShippuden.
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I’m confident Boruto will end its run between 10-15M volumes in circulation. Iirc, NNG alone already passed 5M between France & Japan sales alone. Idek what the US sales have been…
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Ending with pain would leave so many things unconcluded
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Would’ve been horrible.
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What are the thoughts of SM Naruto being FTL for blitzing the Asura path before this Anbu Agent can react? Basically this Jounin can use a LS knock off Raikiri and it's implied that Anbu are superior to Joinin, Anbu cannot save Tsunade from Asura path and SM Naruto blitzes Path from a massive distance.
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Why should we consider LS Jounin as literal and non hyperbolic when Black Zetsu considers lightning extremely fast for high tier beyond jounin level characters (even if you want to say Kirin is light speed, the argument still works against you as BZ considers light undodgable for these beyond jounin level characters), and we know that you need Ay (or nigh Ay) level durability to withstand moving at light speed, Ay in his base form should be far far stronger than average jounin.
Edit: also, outside of that character being a jounin, why are we assuming that the light speed technique of there’s scales to every other jounin? What argument exists for that outside of equivocation?
Edit: also, outside of that character being a jounin, why are we assuming that the light speed technique of there’s scales to every other jounin? What argument exists for that outside of equivocation?
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I think this character's case can be treated as exclusive to him. It doesn't make sense to simply scale any random jonin, and he was amplified by a jutsu that has the purpose of taking him to this speed. It would be the same as scaling anyone stronger than Haku to FTL just because he is LS
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I don't think Madara would let that hit him. Also you said Base Hashirama would beat Madara, so no Shinsuu Senju anyways
MinatoSparkle
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What do you guys think of Sasuke getting a large amp from the Bijuu's chakra as proof that chakra amps are non linear?
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No
The characters are like 14 years apart
It's like scaling Torune to current or even pre tbv Konohamaru because of their ranks
It would be fine if chakra operates as a cultivation type system but it doesn't
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Unless the Anbu are more durable than Tsunade and Ay then cut that out
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Mistranslation.Databook says Anbu are LS…
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Did I???
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Anyone who still thinks that should be sent to a mental hospital
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It's an awful "whoa I'm so original" "hot" "take"
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The Databook and many other things in the verse are considered undodgeable then proceeds to reacted to. It's also why we accept Haku being LS despite many characters scaling above him. My point being that there are various meta's for speed fin the verse and using BZ statement which is massively contradicted by various feats and statements.
No that's fine because I said with the jutsu, so he can be a cut above normal Jounin just not Anbu. In fact the wiki says that he has decent skills so this should definitely put him below Anbu who are the elite.
Is it stated that they're 14 years apart?
That example it's stated and shown otherwise but this is more the opposite.
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Big W'sDatabook says Anbu are LS…
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Simile - Wikipedia
Testarossa002
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Shippuden to retsuden is around 12 to 14 years
Besides, this doesn't work because all the anbu members don't have the same capabilities
BoS sai was an anbu
Itachi was an anbu
Even Boruto has an anbu unit
Backscaling simply doesn't work
Related to that, they also can't be generally put above Jonins by default because the latter also doesn't have the same capabilities
Guy is beating the brakes off any anbu member from part 1 to part 2
Tl;Dr
Find better arguments for the ls Raikiri scaling
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they valid but take second priority to the source material.
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I noticed something while rewatching Naruto. Yes, Sakura gives information about chakra, she states that there are 2 types of chakra. Mental chakra develops with training and the other is physical chakra formed by cells. Mental chakra develops with training, the amount of chakra can increase as you work. So doesn't this chakra provide resistance to soul pressure?
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no because using spiritual energy within other energies doesn't inherently grant spiritual resistance, for the same reason someone being a ghost doesn't inherently mean they can survive soul crush.
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I'm referring to the actual character Hakubi.
Are we led to believe the one protecting Tsunade doesn't have better than Decent skills unlike Hakubi?
Cool.
Even better.
I'll take it.
Does Hakubi have any feats? Does he give Kakashi a hard time? Anything to say that he's above Anbu?
Guy Goated. He has feats that put him above Anbu like beating them up but does Hakubi? If not then this is completely valid to use.
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in an equal stats fight not counting amps, which Kunoichi do yall think is the strongest.
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From across the verse or a specific part?
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Sakura
especially in the novel, the-Last and a little bit of Boruto stuff, She's clearing but I was gonna say Kushina.
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i might make a thread and have a bunch of Kunoichi's in teams of 3 fighting one another.
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the verse, anyone who counts as a Kunoichi though
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HelloThere1089
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Sarada with Chidori. Idk where her physicals are at. But she can blitz and chidori every Kunoichi out there I think.
Edit: Nvm. I missed the equal stats.
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Proof?
It's only stated that it's possible for Haku to move at light speed, not that he does. So characters scaling above him doesn't mean they scale to light speed. His normal movement speed just isn't light speed at all.
The meta you proposed is just not supported.
Why
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I'm telling you that they don't have anything that remotely connect them scaling wise
One is an anbu. One is a Jonin.
There are some anbu members who scale above Jonins and vice versa
Protecting Tsunade, or any hokage for that matter, is a non factor. Anyone strong enough to threaten tsunade no diffs him. Naruto had a Chunin as a bodyguard. That's not grounds for putting her against, say, Asuma.
Even worse, it's in the new era. The same era where kakashi is massively above his war arc self. And where randoms can train hard enough to surpass itachi
