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1. Obito won against a Konan with prep time 🗿
2. Itachi is not surviving Konan's 10 minutes of non stop paper bombs. Pain only would because of Preta Path countering any tangible ninjutsu
Konan would prob beat an in universe Pain easier than Itachi or Obito tbh, given she would avoid confronting any of the bodies from the start. but i guess you mean in a traditional 1 v 1
 
I believe we should be able to get a good lifting strength for sasuke telekenisis. From the feat where he pulled his 9 CT from where the god tree was to final valley
 
Konan would prob beat an in universe Pain easier than Itachi or Obito tbh, given she would avoid confronting any of the bodies from the start. but i guess you mean in a traditional 1 v 1
You mean she'd go right to the real Nagato?
Do't disrespect kurama like that. without kurama hashirama would beat ems madara without sage mode
Das wild. EMS Madara literally fought Hashirama for a whole day after Kurama was put to sleep and Hashi was still in Sage Mode
 
You mean she'd go right to the real Nagato?

Das wild. EMS Madara literally fought Hashirama for a whole day after Kurama was put to sleep and Hashi was still in Sage Mode
Exactly kurama was not a factor after he was taking out from the majestic attire hashirama and madras fought for a day straight till they were tired where hashirama had to use a wood clone to win.
 
Hashirama solos Kurama, a tiny part of Kurama's chakra makes Himawari > Kawaki Karma V1.

That is, Hashirama > Kurama full > Himawari > Kawaki Karma V1 > Naruto Hokage.

I always knew that the fans who said until 2019 that Hashirama was the strongest Hokage weren't wrong 🗿😎.
 
The Databook says that Hashi and Madara were equal in strength, Madara knew this and probably only use Kurama in the hope of break this balance. And it makes sense, but he used it wrongly, using it as a summon was a mistake, clearly he didn't know that the weakness of the bijuus would be precisely the Mokuton, but he should have thought about it, a monster that he himself could easily subdue would clearly be no match for someone of the same level as him. He should have sealed Kurama in himself or just used it as a chakra source, he could even summon it when they were exhausted... anyway, Madara EMS with Kurama in his arsenal is very strong if used well.
 
The Databook says that Hashi and Madara were equal in strength, Madara knew this and probably only use Kurama in the hope of break this balance. And it makes sense, but he used it wrongly, using it as a summon was a mistake, clearly he didn't know that the weakness of the bijuus would be precisely the Mokuton, but he should have thought about it, a monster that he himself could easily subdue would clearly be no match for someone of the same level as him. He should have sealed Kurama in himself or just used it as a chakra source, he could even summon it when they were exhausted... anyway, Madara EMS with Kurama in his arsenal is very strong if used well.
Makes a lotta sense. Kinda like what Sasuke did to Kurama BOShippuden.
 
I’m confident Boruto will end its run between 10-15M volumes in circulation. Iirc, NNG alone already passed 5M between France & Japan sales alone. Idek what the US sales have been…
 
Why should we consider LS Jounin as literal and non hyperbolic when Black Zetsu considers lightning extremely fast for high tier beyond jounin level characters (even if you want to say Kirin is light speed, the argument still works against you as BZ considers light undodgable for these beyond jounin level characters), and we know that you need Ay (or nigh Ay) level durability to withstand moving at light speed, Ay in his base form should be far far stronger than average jounin.

Edit: also, outside of that character being a jounin, why are we assuming that the light speed technique of there’s scales to every other jounin? What argument exists for that outside of equivocation?
 
I think this character's case can be treated as exclusive to him. It doesn't make sense to simply scale any random jonin, and he was amplified by a jutsu that has the purpose of taking him to this speed. It would be the same as scaling anyone stronger than Haku to FTL just because he is LS
 
No
The characters are like 14 years apart
It's like scaling Torune to current or even pre tbv Konohamaru because of their ranks
It would be fine if chakra operates as a cultivation type system but it doesn't
 
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