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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Sasuke is 3 months older than naruto. Happy birthday you brat full of Uchiha Evil, Tresuke, Rinnegon and also, one of the best deuteragonist known to fiction!
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Question: Given everything going on in TBV and taking into account it’s going into Volume 4, is it too early to bring in Momoshiki or do you think they should hold off a little more?
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Question: Given everything going on in TBV and taking into account it’s going into Volume 4, is it too early to bring in Momoshiki or do you think they should hold off a little more?
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Funny cause I was gonna ask this too. Maybe we’ll see next chapter since we finally saw Boruto take some real damage, idk though
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Question: Given everything going on in TBV and taking into account it’s going into Volume 4, is it too early to bring in Momoshiki or do you think they should hold off a little more?
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Up until now, Boruto was seemingly... title card Invincible, but he's finally threatened now. He needed Sarada's help against Hidari, but still beat him, but Jura got the jump and shot a hole in him, and Kawaki is also there I guess.

He's gonna need the Karma.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Wait a second… When Boruto said this, did he mean in context of beating Code or Charging Uzuhiko?
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I think charging up the Uzuhiko he was gonna do, not necessarily half of its full potential
Arc7Kuroi said:
Now for a power scaling goon question. Do yall believe that Uzuhiko serves as a legitimate cap for the vast majority of the verse? Like capping anyone who’s like weaker than Code below 5-B (600 zettatons)? Cuz to me at least, it seems like a very clear antifeat for the tier 4 or higher metas.
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I was thinking about that, it's plausible but chakra is just exponential a lot of the time so I wouldn't call it a limiter, especially when there are other forces involved.
Shadowbokunohero said:
you guys think Current Sarada could take out Delta?
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Sadly Sarada may be a Jigen slayer (like 90% of the relevant cast atp)
Arc7Kuroi said:
Well Edo Haku (who would be weaker than alive Haku) could still like cross map blitz Kakashi with ice mirrors. So, I wouldn't say Haku's ice mirror light speed was retconned per se, when it can outpace a war arc Kakashi.
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I mean that Kakashi was probably mentally nerfed given that he seemed to be having a lot of flashbacks and moments of reflection, and was held on to with Shadow Possession and for part of it was controlled with Mind Transfer but still a good feat yes
Shadowbokunohero said:
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No diffs R1 and R2, likely slams R3 and R4, probably stops at R4, definitely stops at R5
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Sadly Sarada may be a Jigen slayer (like 90% of the relevant cast atp)
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While she may have the raw stats, her arsenal is very lacking
Delta:
1. Sarada can't fly in the likely event Delta takes to the sky
2. Lacks any long distance techniques to take out Delta in the event of number 1
3. Her main techniques can be absorbed
4. Lacks the chakra reserves to overwhelm her like Naruto
5. In the event that she does hit Delta, she still has to deal with Regeneration
6. Delta has a oneshot technique
For jigen, most of the previous limitations still apply including:
1. Jutsu shrinking
2. Jigen Shrinking
3. BFR
4. Rod dura neg
Really hope we get to see her MS in action soon
MinatoSparkle said:
No diffs R1 and R2, likely slams R3 and R4, probably stops at R4, definitely stops at R5
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In the event he gets past itachi (I don't think he does), he's definitely stopping at Kaguya
Like Sarada, he's also very limited in arsenal
What's he going to do when Kaguya transports them to the lava dimension?
 
Nierre said:
How is Konohamaru beating Kaguya?

Kaguya is immune to his Ninjutsu
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1. I don't think his physicals would be worlds below his ninjutsu
2. Kaguya doesn't seem to absorb ninjutsu sometimes when it would be beneficial
Testarossa002 said:
While she may have the raw stats, her arsenal is very lacking
Delta:
1. Sarada can't fly in the likely event Delta takes to the sky
2. Lacks any long distance techniques to take out Delta in the event of number 1
3. Her main techniques can be absorbed
4. Lacks the chakra reserves to overwhelm her like Naruto
5. In the event that she does hit Delta, she still has to deal with Regeneration
6. Delta has a oneshot technique
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Yeah that's all cool, but isn't preventing Sarada from just blitzing and one shotting which is very much in the realm of possibility. At the very least, she'd be fast enough to prevent her from getting high up. Also, if Sarada hits somewhere other than Delta's eyes, she can't absorb it (like how Naruto Rasenshurikened off her legs)
Testarossa002 said:
For jigen, most of the previous limitations still apply including:
1. Jutsu shrinking
2. Jigen Shrinking
3. BFR
4. Rod dura neg
Really hope we get to see her MS in action soon
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This is fairer, but she has way too big a stat advantage over Base/K1 Jigen for most of this to really matter, and K2 Jigen's not gonna last long enough to put her down considering he used most of his stamina just physically overwhelming Naruto and Sasuke
Testarossa002 said:
In the event he gets past itachi (I don't think he does), he's definitely stopping at Kaguya
Like Sarada, he's also very limited in arsenal
What's he going to do when Kaguya transports them to the lava dimension?
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MinatoSparkle said:
1. I don't think his physicals would be worlds below his ninjutsu
2. Kaguya doesn't seem to absorb ninjutsu sometimes when it would be beneficial

Yeah that's all cool, but isn't preventing Sarada from just blitzing and one shotting which is very much in the realm of possibility. At the very least, she'd be fast enough to prevent her from getting high up. Also, if Sarada hits somewhere other than Delta's eyes, she can't absorb it (like how Naruto Rasenshurikened off her legs)

This is fairer, but she has way too big a stat advantage over Base/K1 Jigen for most of this to really matter, and K2 Jigen's not gonna last long enough to put her down considering he used most of his stamina just physically overwhelming Naruto and Sasuke

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I don't think the speed difference between say Kaguya and Code is that wide but not really a topic I'm interested in pursuing
So I'll drop this
 
Food for thought: I know this is a generous interpretation of the recent Uzuhiko feat, but what if the Uzuhiko used against Code was in fact 600 Zettatons. The reason I think this is because this is the amount of energy created by Earth in one second. Boruto prolly charged up his Uzuhiko for more than a second so it should at least have that much of energy. One might ask then why was a 'maximum output' mentioned. My point is that it doesn't make sense for the maximum output to be 600 Zettatons. That's the amount of energy created in a second. Why would Boruto gather up energy for several seconds just to collect the amount of energy created in one second? Why would he stop at that mark? If he can only collect a certain percentage of Earth's energy per second, it makes no sense for the max output to be at 600 Zettatons.

Let's say he can only collect 10% of Earth's energy per second. Why would he stop collecting after 10 seconds and call it the max output? That makes no sense. It's not like Earth has only one second worth of energy to provide. And this would be true for any percentage.

Instead my interpretation involves looking at "Maximum output" as an indication of how much of the Earth's rotational energy Boruto can contain in his body currently. Which means the cap wouldn't be at 600 zettatons, but at an unquantifiable amount above that. This is corroborated by the fact that it is called "Limitless" which means in theory Boruto can keep charging his Uzuhiko indefinitely. But in practice he can't because it would be more energy than his body can handle. Also the planetary statement made by Koji.

I know this has little evidence as support and isn't really a conservative estimate like my usual takes. I just wanted to state this possibility.

Edit: One more reason why I got this idea. Boruto emphasized on the fact that the planet will never stop spinning which indicates the abundance of energy created by the planet. "Limitless" if you will.
 
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HelloThere1089 said:
Food for thought: I know this is a generous interpretation of the recent Uzuhiko feat, but what if the Uzuhiko used against Code was in fact 600 Zettatons. The reason I think this is because this is the amount of energy created by Earth in one second. Boruto prolly charged up his Uzuhiko for more than a second so it should at least have that much of energy. One might ask then why was a 'maximum output' mentioned. My point is that it doesn't make sense for the maximum output to be 600 Zettatons. That's the amount of energy created in a second. Why would Boruto gather up energy for several seconds just to collect the amount of energy created in one second? Why would he stop at that mark? If he can only collect a certain percentage of Earth's energy per second, it makes no sense for the max output to be at 600 Zettatons.

Let's say he can only collect 10% of Earth's energy per second. Why would he stop collecting after 10 seconds and call it the max output? That makes no sense. It's not like Earth has only one second worth of energy to provide. And this would be true for any percentage.

Instead my interpretation involves looking at "Maximum output" as an indication of how much of the Earth's rotational energy Boruto can contain in his body currently. Which means the cap wouldn't be at 600 zettatons, but at an unquantifiable mark above that. This is corroborated by the fact that it is called "Limitless" which means in theory Boruto can keep charging his Uzuhiko indefinitely. But in practice he can't because it would be more energy than his body can handle. Also the planetary statement made by Koji.

I know this has little evidence as support and isn't really a conservative estimate like my usual takes. I just wanted to state this possibility.
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I think this is a really plausible interpretation actually, it would explain why boruto says that Uzuhikos power is limitless too
 
Stryker861 said:
I think this is a really plausible interpretation actually, it would explain why boruto says that Uzuhikos power is limitless too
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Yeah. I am not really interested in making a CRT out of this if Uzuhiko gets downgraded in the future, and for wiki purposes I think Code's version of Uzuhiko being baseline planetary or lower works, but I might use this off site unless future events contradict this.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Food for thought: I know this is a generous interpretation of the recent Uzuhiko feat, but what if the Uzuhiko used against Code was in fact 600 Zettatons. The reason I think this is because this is the amount of energy created by Earth in one second. Boruto prolly charged up his Uzuhiko for more than a second so it should at least have that much of energy. One might ask then why was a 'maximum output' mentioned. My point is that it doesn't make sense for the maximum output to be 600 Zettatons. That's the amount of energy created in a second. Why would Boruto gather up energy for several seconds just to collect the amount of energy created in one second? Why would he stop at that mark? If he can only collect a certain percentage of Earth's energy per second, it makes no sense for the max output to be at 600 Zettatons.

Let's say he can only collect 10% of Earth's energy per second. Why would he stop collecting after 10 seconds and call it the max output? That makes no sense. It's not like Earth has only one second worth of energy to provide. And this would be true for any percentage.

Instead my interpretation involves looking at "Maximum output" as an indication of how much of the Earth's rotational energy Boruto can contain in his body currently. Which means the cap wouldn't be at 600 zettatons, but at an unquantifiable amount above that. This is corroborated by the fact that it is called "Limitless" which means in theory Boruto can keep charging his Uzuhiko indefinitely. But in practice he can't because it would be more energy than his body can handle. Also the planetary statement made by Koji.

I know this has little evidence as support and isn't really a conservative estimate like my usual takes. I just wanted to state this possibility.

Edit: One more reason why I got this idea. Boruto emphasized on the fact that the planet will never stop spinning which indicates the abundance of energy created by the planet. "Limitless" if you will.
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No 600zt is not the energy produced per second
 
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