MinatoSparkle
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Yea not on its own
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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That's lead me to a few theories:
1. He's the most malicious one, the Black Zetsu to Jura's Madara. Almost a bug in the system.
2. He's the most knowledgeable, likely due to his abilities.
3. Bug himself probably had some notable powers of his own.
4. The power of a Shinju isn't tied directly to the power of its host.
5. The Shinju have most likely adapted to gain powers that can help them counter their target's abilities.
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Bug because it makes sense thematically with the names of Eida and Daemon
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The first spoiler page is releasing on the 13th/14th i believe.
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Food for thought…
Would you say that that is likely inherent? I liken it to Kirin in the sense that Sasuke’s Jutsu / chakra is controlling the flow of the ambient energy, but otherwise without that “guiding” nature of his chakra, the natural electrical discharges wouldn’t gather together to form the Kirin Technique.
Take Sasuke’s Chakra out of the equation and Kirin unravels.
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Idk if any of you guys are collectors but I’m looking for a shop that sales high quality Naruto Statue Figures for a display i’m making. Do any of you know of any legitimate stores?
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HelloThere1089
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Tbh I never figured out what stopped Sasuke from trying this again:
I mean even if he couldn't squish Kurama like that, he still could put Kurama in a genjutsu if he wanted. Did Naruto ever show that he trained to get resistance against this?
MinatoSparkle
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Doubtful
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He was strong enough to suppress Kn0 Levels of Chakra at the time but not higher levels. And iirc, you need MS level Genjutsu to Genjutsu Kurama.Tbh I never figured out what stopped Sasuke from trying this again:
I mean even if he couldn't squish Kurama like that, he still could put Kurama in a genjutsu if he wanted. Did Naruto ever show that he trained to get resistance against this?
Sasuke was never as dominant over Naruto again in the series as he was in this meeting, so idk about him suppressing higher levels of Kurama’s Chakra.
HelloThere1089
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Nah, I'm talking about entering Narutos mind like that. After which it shouldn't be a problem for EMS Sasuke to put Kurama in a genjutsu from inside Naruto. Iirc their genjutsu resistance only works when Naruto is the one in genjutsu and Kurama is unaffected inside. What if Sasuke enters Narutos mind like this and then puts them both in a genjutsu simultaneously?
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Yeah, but then he's in Naruto's head, where Naruto can summon wooden gates to fall on him.
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Obito did something similar to Yagura and his tailed beast
no?
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Yagura isn't a Perfect Jinchuuriki.
HelloThere1089
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Faster than genjutsu? Also are you talking about the gates Hashirama summons? Naruto can do that? Damn I need to re-watch the show.
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No, I'm joking.
Naruto summons these like, structures of some kind to contain Kurama when they're fighting in his brain.
HelloThere1089
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Ah yes. I remember now.
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iirc Kurama implied it was Hagoromo's jutsu Naruto used
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Not saying he is, he has genjutsu nullification on his profile
Could be the 3 tails never gave a f**k about Yagura or he was in one himself
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Well, the 3 Tails was under Yagura's control, so if he was controlled, it would be as well.
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Someone posted this before no clue what it means though. I think it had to do with controlling the biju not being the same as a perfect jin in the sense we call Bee and Naruto one where it's a partnership.
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Some Jinchuriki had control over their Bijuu without being perfect Jins ( as in being as close as possible without being the real thing )
Such as Yugito
But in the case of Yagura, I think he was a perfect Jin seeing how Danzo ( who actually is quite the intelligent character ) placed him in the same category of controlling a Bijuu as Bee...despite the fact he obviously would know about Yugito's "mastery" yet didn't name drop her in his examples
Such as Yugito
But in the case of Yagura, I think he was a perfect Jin seeing how Danzo ( who actually is quite the intelligent character ) placed him in the same category of controlling a Bijuu as Bee...despite the fact he obviously would know about Yugito's "mastery" yet didn't name drop her in his examples
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And Obito being able to Genjutsu Yagura with just his Base Sharingan is an insane feat of overcoming layers of resistance to such perception manipulation ( the perfect jin resistance )
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As for Sasuke not trying to Genjutsu Naruto in their final battle...
He knew it would be useless
By the end of Shippuden, due to his perfect jin status to all the bijuu plus his six paths chakra Naruto was immune to all Genjutsu but arguably IT
I say arguably because while it was clear Madara's IT would have affected Naruto ( hence why Sasuke protected him from the moon's light )
Kaguya never bothered to try it on him...meaning two things
1. Kishimoto nerfed Kaguya in that regard since she would just one shot Naruto with IT ( Because it doesn't even need a moon to cast on one person )
2. You can argue Naruto's crazy Reactive evolution kicked in or some shit and he grew resistance to it during their fight...the databook states that when Kaguya fought Naruto solo for a while off screen, she was using her full abilities/powers ( so she might have tried IT off panel and obviously other hax )
This isn't even too crazy as Sasuke's Genjutsu is confirmed to have surpassed Kaguya's by The Last era and in Boruto Naruto is still regarded as stronger than him ( minimum equal ofc ) which would mean Sasuke can't just Genjutsu him to win and would need to actually fight him due to his crazy resistance
At the minimum New Era Naruto can def be argued immune to IT
Shippuden is your choice from the two options I gave
He knew it would be useless
By the end of Shippuden, due to his perfect jin status to all the bijuu plus his six paths chakra Naruto was immune to all Genjutsu but arguably IT
I say arguably because while it was clear Madara's IT would have affected Naruto ( hence why Sasuke protected him from the moon's light )
Kaguya never bothered to try it on him...meaning two things
1. Kishimoto nerfed Kaguya in that regard since she would just one shot Naruto with IT ( Because it doesn't even need a moon to cast on one person )
2. You can argue Naruto's crazy Reactive evolution kicked in or some shit and he grew resistance to it during their fight...the databook states that when Kaguya fought Naruto solo for a while off screen, she was using her full abilities/powers ( so she might have tried IT off panel and obviously other hax )
This isn't even too crazy as Sasuke's Genjutsu is confirmed to have surpassed Kaguya's by The Last era and in Boruto Naruto is still regarded as stronger than him ( minimum equal ofc ) which would mean Sasuke can't just Genjutsu him to win and would need to actually fight him due to his crazy resistance
At the minimum New Era Naruto can def be argued immune to IT
Shippuden is your choice from the two options I gave
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You're leaving out Madara and Hashirama who aren't perfect jins, they had control over the biju like he said bee and Yagura did but all in different ways.
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True but you got to look at the panel again...with madara and hashirama we know they control bijuu via wood release and MS sharingan respectively
With Bee we know he is a perfect Jin
Yagura is a Jin like Bee so we know he isn't comparing the way his control is done to the gay ninja duo
He is placing it similar to Bee
If it was just great control rather than perfect bond like Bee's...he would have also named dropped Yugito too then who we KNOW is outright stated in the Databook to have "mastery" over her Bijuu power and we literally see her go Bijuu mode at will in her only appearance when she was alive in the manga ( when she fought Hidan and Kakuzu )
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So he knows how Bee controls his biju? We even see in the other panels above it and the other scan its talking about control in the way the duo did it by force not by holding hands signing kumbaya. Also the comment about Yugito proves you wrong in Danzo knowing stuff then does it not since he is now fallible in his information.
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Also shouldn't Konan have cont ap for the 6 billion paper bombs or something due to the amount of energy it took?
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I never said Danzo is infallible but it would be quite odd that he wouldn't know what he is talking about in this case considering Bee as far as I remember is famous for being the Jin to have "complete mastery" over his Bijuu despite the fact people like Yugito exist and yet Danzo compares Yagura to Bee but doesn't mention Yugito at all
I am not 100% claiming he does know about Yugito but for him to not know who Yugito is and what she can do would be quite strange given it doesn't really seem like a secret. I mean the entire purpose of the summit was to discuss the missing Jinchuriki shit that had been going on for a while by that point and even the Minato one shot shows the Jin are well known people
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Anyways Idrc to discuss this more tbh
Reading manga and chillin rn since I don't got work so it's whatever
Still need to re-read Naruto bruh
Been so long
Reading manga and chillin rn since I don't got work so it's whatever
Still need to re-read Naruto bruh
Been so long
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Its a good reread atm around chapter 474.
MinatoSparkle
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Where?
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So… how we gonna feel if/when Sumire/Amadou invents the cure for Blindness for Sarada to have an “Artificial EMS”?
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Obito was unable to go blind, and he didn't have an "Artificial EMS."So… how we gonna feel if/when Sumire/Amadou invents the cure for Blindness for Sarada to have an “Artificial EMS”?
The only thing we know about EMS powers anyway is that it amps the MS and let Sasuke use basic Amaterasu from both eyes.
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Didn't having Hashirama Cells help him not develop deteriorating eyesight or suffer heavy exhaustion when using his MS? Or did it just help with the Izanagi?
