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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Not that I agree with it. But I think the actual reason is not realism at all. It has never been that. It's about respect. People respect Hashirama and Hagoromo too much. They feel as though, surpassing them that "easily" tarnishes their legacy. That's the real reason I think.

Of course I don't care about that crap. But I'm pretty confident it is the number one issue with the Naruto fandom. More so than realism, groundedness, or consistency.
 
Apollonir.Scale said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I know, in this wiki, if a character proves that he is in a tier, it does not care whether it makes sense for him to be in this tier according to the logic of the series.
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Are you saying that Outliers don't exist? That if a character is at a certain tier, it's always fine even when doesn't make any sense?
 
Damage3245 said:
Are you saying that Outliers don't exist? That if a character is at a certain tier, it's always fine even when doesn't make any sense?
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What I mean is that if a character has shown that he is strong enough to fight a 5-C character, it does not matter how he gained the strength to fight this 5-C character. For example, 10-Year-Old Ben Tennyson is 10-B, but he becomes 5-A because he fights an alien like Spidermonkey, who is 5-A 5 years later. He can also fight Pierce (I think I didn't spell his name correctly), who can fight 5-A characters. There is no mention of any training or extra strengthening that could show Ben Tennyson going from 10-B to 5-A in 5 years. It seems strange to me that a child who is an ordinary human without the Omnitrix has 5-A AP and MFTL+ reaction speed, but since the character has feats to support this, it is not seen as an outlier.
 
So like when is shikadai shadow paralysis going to evolve to controlling darkness itself and not just shadows?
Or am I just delusional?
 
Apollonir.Scale said:
What I mean is that if a character has shown that he is strong enough to fight a 5-C character, it does not matter how he gained the strength to fight this 5-C character. For example, 10-Year-Old Ben Tennyson is 10-B, but he becomes 5-A because he fights an alien like Spidermonkey, who is 5-A 5 years later. He can also fight Pierce (I think I didn't spell his name correctly), who can fight 5-A characters. There is no mention of any training or extra strengthening that could show Ben Tennyson going from 10-B to 5-A in 5 years. It seems strange to me that a child who is an ordinary human without the Omnitrix has 5-A AP and MFTL+ reaction speed, but since the character has feats to support this, it is not seen as an outlier.
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That's because Ben is just him
 
Godernet said:
I didn't know you knew game like that Shadow👀
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So I read the official translations and.....
  1. The "Aesthetics" made it to the official translations lmao.
  2. Why tf are they saying Hidari doesn't look like Sasuke? I assumed Hidari had Sasuke's face.
  3. I guess respect to Inojin for stepping up. It's understandable that he was so shaken up that he didn't think of trying mind transfer.
  4. Kawaki redemption incoming.
Himawari's last panel form looks a bit different than Naruto's first kyubi influence. Her eye mascara thingy is much more prominent than Naruto's initial state. Also since Kurama is cooperating, shouldn't she go into KCM? Maybe it's her own new form. Or maybe it's BM Himawari. Most likely it's a difference in artstyle.
 
reincarnating into the sliver of chakra Naruto passed on to Himawari ≠ the amount of chakra Kurama has.

especially since we know Bijuu reincarnations are independent of the Bijuu's mind, body, and soul being destroyed(all the components of chakra.)

also, Hima having a sliver was just a hypothesis by Kurama as to why he spawned inside Hima, not a fact.
 
Wouldn't this be Shunshin?

Looking at Orochimaru's profile (who's Rel, who should technically be FTL scaling to Naruto), his justification is that he went FTE to Naruto due to "disappearing suddenly", but to me this reads as he used Shunshin. What do you guys think?
 
Nierre said:
Wouldn't this be Shunshin?

Looking at Orochimaru's profile (who's Rel, who should technically be FTL scaling to Naruto), his justification is that he went FTE to Naruto due to "disappearing suddenly", but to me this reads as he used Shunshin. What do you guys think?
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No
Orochimaru scales to a weakened Naruto who is sick and unable to manipulate chakra properly.

Base Naruto>Orochimaru>Sick base Naruto>/= rel
 
Nierre said:
sure, so why is "sick" base naruto "rel" (ftl) as opposed to unknown?
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Dodged photon multiple times
Up close too, I guess no one really got the time to calc it so I guess they’re using the most logical bare minimum (rel)

I think Orochimaru used shunshin tho imo, but alternatively it could’ve just been pure speed
 
I find it poetic that when Sarada and Sasuke first meet, Sasuke didnt initially recognize Sarada, but now the roles are reversed, and now Sarada hasn't recognized Hidari.

This fight between Hidari and Sarada could be the best thematic matchup in the manga thus far imo. And may be the most I've been invested in, emotionally. Maybe after Baryon (in the anime)
 
KaydeeX said:
Dodged photon multiple times
Up close too, I guess no one really got the time to calc it so I guess they’re using the most logical bare minimum (rel)

I think Orochimaru used shunshin tho imo, but alternatively it could’ve just been pure speed
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Shouldn't that be removed since we cant calc it? Like for the same reasons we don't use Kakashi's LS chidori novel stuff.
 
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This is a matter of personal preference but I like these kind of explanations.
It takes something we know and adds a bit of mystery by not fully answering the new questions born from the explanation.
Even the characters in the show are theorising but at the end of the day the deed is done so there's no real point dwelling on it, at least not now.
Always seemed weird to me that Kurama sorta just died after Baryon and I just chucked it up to it being a new type of "death".
Now we got confirmation that it doesn't matter what happens as they'll just come back or continue to live in another piece of their chakra that's still alive. For example, half of Kurama dying and staying dead with Minato and the other half living with Naruto.
 
Also Himawari being strong was never really up for debate but its still funny to see people freak out.
She's the daughter of Naruto Uzumaki and Hinata Hyuga, both of them wielding chakra of Kaguya and she may have been born with a piece of Kurama already in her.
It makes sense that her affinity to Kurama would be much better than Naruto and her other predecessors.
 
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