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I mean if that could fly, then Momoshiki would be star level because Kaguya was scared of him despite having a star level attack. Not saying you're wrong, but the site might not agree with you.I’d it be more implied if anything. If hagaromo could take kaygua out by throwing her into a moon or trapping her in one then he would have done it earlier instead of needing to seal her first
Making a CRT for shouldn’t matter thenHe has hagaromo’s eye powers so it shouldn’t matter
That was Naruto and Sasuke's SPCT where its value is split between the two in their respective profilesbesdies his PD seemly grew to the size of the moon just like when hagaromo and hamura sealed kaygua
That again?
It’s not the same thingI mean if that could fly, then Momoshiki would be star level because Kaguya was scared of him despite having a star level attack. Not saying you're wrong, but the site might not agree with you.
he moved sakura's foreheadHe doesn't have a feat of moving a Moon Sized object into orbit
I agree that Hagoromo's TK is easier to argue. I just meant that the line of logic use by him is similar to Kaguya's. Which is hard to argue on this wiki. Heck if you present a good argument in a CRT, I'll agree with you.It’s not the same thing
Kaguya 4C is shit in the most unimaginable way, not combat applicable and after a couple of millennia it reaches that value.
Hagoromo physicals should be comparable to his tk
I mean.. this man could’ve just squished Kaguya or pop her head like Marie Moreau if the vast difference existed
Translation error. In the original translation it says that the place can be divided easily. Ah Kishimoto ah you are so bad at writing expressions.And wasn’t there some statment about kinishiki being able to split worlds?
yeah...unfortunately he does, i was thinking of that as well the other dayDoes Hidari have anyting that put him on moon-planet level?
you might be on to something lol. But I’d think it’s a bit different considering how the techniques workI mean if that could fly, then Momoshiki would be star level because Kaguya was scared of him despite having a star level attack. Not saying you're wrong, but the site might not agree with you.
Guess I’ll be making crt thenMaking a CRT for shouldn’t matter then
Naruto only helped with the sealing and even then hagaromo is still small planter lvl for throwing the moon into spaceThat was Naruto and Sasuke's SPCT where its value is split between the two in their respective profiles
What “place”? Can be divided easily?Translation error. In the original translation it says that the place can be divided easily. Ah Kishimoto ah you are so bad at writing expressions.
true but it can be used to crush or trap enemies in a moonHagoromo’s TK is solely for moving SPCT, nothing about his TK says it can be used in the manner being talked about, like squishing someone’s head remotely.
My point was that feats that don't have a lot of info about them are hard to argue especially now that there is no UES. We have no idea how his TK works. Does it require prep time? Is it connected to the seals? Can it be used with anything other than the SPCT moon? Same for Kaguya's ETSO. If we still had UES, none of this would be an issue.you might be on to something lol. But I’d think it’s a bit different considering how the techniques work
We kinda do it’s just the deva power on crack. The seal itself shouldn’t amp his PD just restrain kayguya. Kaguya’s etso is more unknownMy point was that feats that don't have a lot of info about them are hard to argue especially now that there is no UES. We have no idea how his TK works. Does it require prep time? Is it connected to the seals? Can it be used with anything other than the SPCT moon? Same for Kaguya's ETSO. If we still had UES, none of this would be an issue.
I might be missing the info then. Could you point me to where you found this?We kinda do it’s just the deva power on crack.
Yes. I didn't mean that both are equally unknown.Kaguya’s etso is more unknown
Nagato said hagromo made the moon via PD it’s literally the same technique but biggerI might be missing the info then. Could you point me to where you found this?
Isn't this about creating the moon? I don't think that was ever up for debate. I mean it's literally called Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. I'm asking if you have proof that moving the moon was done via deva path powers.Nagato said hagromo made the moon via PD it’s literally the same technique but bigger
Unless there’s something saying hagromo’s moon works completely differently from his regular deva powers I see no reason to assume it’s completely unknown
Oh mb I thought you meant something else. Well considering how madera,Nagato and sasuke can move around there PD I’d image the same would apply to hagromo(also hamura since apparently he can do that)Isn't this about creating the moon? I don't think that was ever up for debate. I mean it's literally called Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. I'm asking if you have proof that moving the moon was done via deva path powers.
The issue is kurama was talking about affinity I.e how well her and his chakra intertwine. This is irrelevant to 10 tails jinjuriki and only relevant for 9 tails jin.You’re right. It was a different translation I recalled.
Either way, what would be your reason for saying that still? Jura does relate himself to being an incarnation of the Juubi, just like Kurama. And going back to the war, the Biju never were “fully” assimilated within Obito, Madara or Kaguya, with Son Goku exclaiming, “We finally made it out!“, AS SOON as they were being freed from within Kaguya, implying they were attempting it while sealed within them, which implies they were fully conscious of their situation.
It seems to me that Kurama’s statement SHOULD encompass Juubi Jins and Kaguya, which would make sense given Daemons sensing her chakra spiking.
According to the latest revision hag did it while he was dying and bedridden. So it kinda sounds like he just used telekinesis. It's wild how a bedridden hag can squash Kaguya to dustIsn't this about creating the moon? I don't think that was ever up for debate. I mean it's literally called Six Paths Chibaku Tensei. I'm asking if you have proof that moving the moon was done via deva path powers.
Kaguya did something like thatHagoromo’s TK is solely for moving SPCT, nothing about his TK says it can be used in the manner being talked about, like squishing someone’s head remotely.
The “affinity” Statement (And we’ll have better translation in a few days) was a separate sentence and thought, apart from the “Your Chakra is Greater/Better than your Predecessors”.The issue is kurama was talking about affinity I.e how well her and his chakra intertwine. This is irrelevant to 10 tails jinjuriki and only relevant for 9 tails jin.
Mostly plot but its also Boruto underselling himself constantly what whole arc and Shikadai and Shikamaru teaming up to come up with plans to defeat him before the fightDon't know why Boruto even lost to Shika. Bro has insane AoE with Water Style, he should've been able to win w/o cheating smh
It prolly takes alot of chakra to produce so much water or sum idk
Predecessors means 9 tails hosts.. don't over think it. It can't refer to 10tails hosts. Not like it matters since naruto is stronger than those 10tails hosts so it doesn't change any scallingThe “affinity” Statement (And we’ll have better translation in a few days) was a separate sentence and thought, apart from the “Your Chakra is Greater/Better than your Predecessors”.
So not only does Hima have a better Affinity for Kurama’s Chakra, but her chakra alone is also greater than their’s.
Which would support this again, and unless Kurama was permanatly amped from Baryon Mode, regular Kurama doesn’t necessitate this reaction from Daemon.
God dangit. Sooner or later the scaling gonna explode on itself.yeah...unfortunately he does, i was thinking of that as well the other day
I wouldn’t want this tbhJust wait till Boruto confirms 1-A Shippuden peak god tiers ( Kaguya/Juubidara and such )
New Era God Tiers a High 1-A
And Otsutsuki Gods at Tier 0
It's gonna happenI wouldn’t want this tbh
Unironically hilarious
Did bro really say just Inojin looks aesthetic while getting impaled? Gah Dayum.
CookNaruto is about 5-B
Same with Hidari. I wonder if Sasuke would have been as chill as Hidari if Itachi didn't f*ck him up so bad.Unironically hilarious
Jura is at least fun enough to read about so far
They are not in the same tier. The Shinju are a tier above.Honestly, it's very difficult to believe that these characters are in the same tier as Madara, Obito, Hagoromo, Kaguya...
Then what about the Shinju pressing Boruto?Honestly, Sarada being able to dodge and hit Hidari like that was horrible for the scale. If only she had active MS we could do some contortion... I hope that in the next chapters it will be revealed that Hidari is not yet at Sasuke's level.