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Might be a weird idea, but is there any way to get Sage Mode and other possible things in the series to upscale from First Gate's 5x multiplier?

Because rn Base Adult Naruto would be stronger using the First Gate rather than SPSM.
 
Might be a weird idea, but is there any way to get Sage Mode and other possible things in the series to upscale from First Gate's 5x multiplier?

Because rn Base Adult Naruto would be stronger using the First Gate rather than SPSM.
Not necessarily.
SPSM is regarded as his strongest mode

It doesn't matter if Sage mode is 6000x base, SPSM would automatically upscale from that
 
Not necessarily.
SPSM is regarded as his strongest mode

It doesn't matter if Sage mode is 6000x base, SPSM would automatically upscale from that
No I mean by wiki standards lmao.

If we accept 1st gate being 5x it's very likely SPSM is above that (due to "common sense"). There's just no way to prove that with the wiki standards rn lmao.
 
Is a Fresh Haku w/ Killing Intent and Ice Mirrors already active blitzing V2 Ay?
Ay is superior to KN0 Naruto, who soundly defeated Haku. As a result, Ay would also defeat Haku. Not to mention, Haku just lacks the AP to harm Ay, even with his Senbon, and his Ice Mirrors lack the durability to withstand Ay's AP as well. So while I don't believe that Ay is LS, he just simply beats Haku. There's no way around that.
 
Ay is superior to KN0 Naruto, who soundly defeated Haku. As a result, Ay would also defeat Haku. Not to mention, Haku just lacks the AP to harm Ay, even with his Senbon, and his Ice Mirrors lack the durability to withstand Ay's AP as well. So while I don't believe that Ay is LS, he just simply beats Haku. There's no way around that.
Well yeah, certainly. Even if Haku could blitz, it would probably be like a car running into a tree at 100 mph.
 
No I mean by wiki standards lmao.

If we accept 1st gate being 5x it's very likely SPSM is above that (due to "common sense"). There's just no way to prove that with the wiki standards rn lmao.
Yeah, it's a little strange to think that SPSM somehow got worse in Boruto in comparison to Shippuden.
 
The reason you guys are having problems here is that you're thinking of a lot of these forms as Super Saiyan-esque linear multipliers, when that's not what they are at all.
Seems right. Only the First Gate seems to function this way, and even the rest of the gates power boost varies by user (8th Gate Might Dai ain't scratching Juubidara)
 
KCM / Bijuu forms cannot be a multiplier as it's just a combination of the Bijuu and Jinchuuriki's power.

Could Sage Mode be a multiplier? Since it's about balancing your own Chakra with nature energy, the amount of nature energy you take would scale linearly to the amount of Chakra you have. Could that be a multiplier? Idk.
 
Seems right. Only the First Gate seems to function this way, and even the rest of the gates power boost varies by user (8th Gate Might Dai ain't scratching Juubidara)
This is the case because Guy is far superior to his dad. Dai is a fodder genin. Guy is an elite Jōnin. So it's not that amp is different, Guy's just far superior.
 
No I mean by wiki standards lmao.

If we accept 1st gate being 5x it's very likely SPSM is above that (due to "common sense"). There's just no way to prove that with the wiki standards rn lmao.
I mean logically speaking, can you prove it via common sense either?
Six Paths Sage Mode is just (from what I remember) a better Sage Mode, which is in turn just the process of adding Nature Energy to your regular Chakra mix. So even if you wank it and hang yourself upside down letting all blood flow into your brain, you could only really get a Full AP+1/2 AP increase, which imo is not reliable.
From what I remember it just increases the quality of your existing Chakra anyway so it's probably just unquantifiable. There's also no proof that it acts as a multiplier.
 
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