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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Samlex1234 said:
It takes him more time to charge Uzuhiko than his regular Rasengan also When Eida calls it a basic Rasengan, we know that Daemon corrected her that it was more than a basic Rasengan and Boruto was surprised that code could still stand, which would mean that he had no problem hurting him enough not to kill him. Against Hidari when Sarada asked for him to use his base Rasengan, he opted for Uzuhiko instead, meaning that Uzuhiko would have provided more energy output than his base Rasengan even though it was not fully charged.
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You were pretty much in agreement with this thread that proposed Uzuhiko's AP being the same as that of a standard rasengan
What changed?
Ghostimuscrime

Thread 'Gokage Speed Upgrade & Uzuhiko Fix [Boruto]'

Simple CRT, just two changes



Gokage Buff :
EOS Kakashi is 9.12c, his 1st gate is 45.6c as seen here, Boruto era characters outscale non god tiers massively that
strong characters like him & sakura despite their strong powers are not much of a help, hence in momo arc Sasuke
states gokage are the best people to employ when naruto was kidnapped, proving gokage far surpass any of the
boosts that kakashi or sakura can provide. This is also a critical situation as they're deemed kaguya level threats,
kaguya who is considered the greatest...
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Godernet said:
longer charge time doesn't always mean more AP.

even the weakest version of his Uzuhiko still requires him to draw energy from the planet rather than just use his internal energy.

even if he was just trying to get the vertigo effect it would still take more time to prep than a regular Rasengan.

cause the planet was shaking from the effect of his jutsu, something that normal rasengans don't cause.

also being more than a normal rasengan doesn't automatically mean higher ap since it also has an effect that no other rasengan before it had, which would still make Daemon's statement true and have nothing to do with AP.

Boruto was surprised that he was still on his feet and said nothing about him being visibly undamaged.

And we know he needed to talk to Code as soon as possible to get the Juubi's location.

if anything that's just more evidence that he was just trying to incapacitate him so that he could talk to him.

yeah because overall Uzuhiko > Rasengan.

That doesn't mean he can't nerf Uzuhiko to the point of being weaker than his Rasengan who are meant to kill someone.

Rasengan is a jutsu that fluctuates in AP the more chakra you put into it.

let's say:

Max Output Uzuhiko is a 100
Code's Durability is a 9
Hidari's Durability is also a 9
a Rasengan is 1-10 (depending on how much power Boruto is putting into it)
and a partially charged Uzuhiko can be anywhere from 1-99 (depending on the amount of the planet's chakra that Boruto brings out.)

all that means is that he brought Uzuhiko below a 9 to not seriously damage Code, but apply the vertigo effect so that he could interrogate him and potentially spare him if he cooperated.

and against Hidari, because he needed to fully destroy him, he immediately tries a Rasengan at 10, it does damage just not enough, so he starts charging Uzuhiko, bringing it anywhere from 11-99, but it's still more than enough to beat Hidari.
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Since the initial impact of the Uzuhiko was still able to harm Code, base rasengan at full power is > Hidari durability, then we can get, at least small planet with minimal Uzuhiko, higher with Base Rasengan even higher with Uzuhiko at full output.🙂🙂🙂
 
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Testarossa002 said:
You were pretty much in agreement with this thread that proposed Uzuhiko's AP being the same as that of a standard rasengan
What changed?
Ghostimuscrime

Thread 'Gokage Speed Upgrade & Uzuhiko Fix [Boruto]'

Simple CRT, just two changes



Gokage Buff :
EOS Kakashi is 9.12c, his 1st gate is 45.6c as seen here, Boruto era characters outscale non god tiers massively that
strong characters like him & sakura despite their strong powers are not much of a help, hence in momo arc Sasuke
states gokage are the best people to employ when naruto was kidnapped, proving gokage far surpass any of the
boosts that kakashi or sakura can provide. This is also a critical situation as they're deemed kaguya level threats,
kaguya who is considered the greatest...
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Nope that is not true. I don’t share the same opinion as Nierre and Ghost on this.

Edit
I agree that the ratings should be removed but my reasons are different.
 
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MinatoSparkle said:
This is moreso cause of imgur being fraudulent but sure

Personally I prefer that to dealing with annoying ass tabs for keys ngl 😭 (even looks worse on mobile)

That's focused on scaling which is my hyper fixation :cool: (I have neglected my goat on VSBW tho u right)
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7 years and you couldnt get konoha's yellow flash to be as fast as an actual flash


Ass Fan
 
DavidTPPM said:
Funky way to say "my fav gets neg diffed by Deku" 🥸
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EP0xPlFt-Doubt.jpg

Ghostimuscrime said:
cowardiceful response 😛
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I'm just spitting fax
Ghostimuscrime said:
me personally I wouldnt take that

minatos possibly 100 teratons is getting squashed by Deku's 42 petatons 😹

couldnt by my goat naruto whos resting comfortably in tier 4 🥱
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Tell Deku to touch actually High 6-A to 5-C/MFTL+ KCM Minato 🤷‍♂️
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I highly doubt the Shinju Ego are physically inferior to Pre-God Tree Juubidara
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What’re you basing this on though? We’ve seen through TT Fission / Claw Grimes that Bodies that come from/are composed of Juubi’s Body/Chakra are not equally as strong as the original.

Therefore, it’s certainly plausible that the Shinju Ego’s “can” have weaker bodies than Pre-God Tree Madara for Example.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
😭you dont even like azathoth youre just choosing him cuz hes strong, I on the other hand at least am a die hard TF fan
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I don't play fair✌️:cool:
NeoKingOfLight said:
What’re you basing this on though? We’ve seen through TT Fission / Claw Grimes that Bodies that come from/are composed of Juubi’s Body/Chakra are not equally as strong as the original.

Therefore, it’s certainly plausible that the Shinju Ego’s “can” have weaker bodies than Pre-God Tree Madara for Example.
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It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them. For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style, Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike, and Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically.
 
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MinatoSparkle said:
It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them.
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That wouldn't happen no matter how strong the characters get. Outside of a Wind Style jutsu, no top tier is going to damage a weaker character by breathing on them - unless you're just being facetious.
 
Damage3245 said:
That wouldn't happen no matter how strong the characters get. Outside of a Wind Style jutsu, no top tier is going to damage a weaker character by breathing on them - unless you're just being facetious.
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I think he just meant that Boruto has to actually use ninjutsu and weapons to harm the shinju instead of just like, flicking their heads off, so they clearly are somewhat relative to him physically
 
Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu


Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu


Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
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Pray to the scaling gods that a character interacts with it physically
 
MinatoSparkle said:
For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style
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Ehh.. this really doesn't mean much. Breakthrough never really does damage when used like that and is just meant to blow people away. TBH the fact that he got blown away and didn't just facetank it means the opposite IF ANYTHING.
MinatoSparkle said:
Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike
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Characters in Naruto dodge sharp attacks regardless of who uses it. For example, Naruto in base isn't going to tank a Kunai attack from Himawari, if he just stands there he's gonna get hurt its just how it is in the Narutoverse.

Shino for example moves out of the way when Boruto's Academy class practices Shuriken Jutsu, but they objectively don't scale to him.
MinatoSparkle said:
Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically
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1000%
 
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Ghostimuscrime said:
Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu


Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
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The year is 2034, the gang is still fighting Ryu and co in the sand
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Video game/novel character type beat
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Usually they get it scaled to their physicals, because no one’s willing to read the series enough to argue against it
MinatoSparkle said:
Pray to the scaling gods that a character interacts with it physically
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I mean the way we usually do it is just use statements of “his strongest jutsu” “far superior to x which includes their combat capabilities” “x costs more chakra than y”


But this is a different case because it’s not making use of finite values, if I can output aleph 5 joules in a chidori I don’t see why I can’t do the same to my rasengan or even punches
 
Nierre said:
Ehh.. this really doesn't mean much. Breakthrough never really does damage when used like that and is just meant to blow people away. TBH the fact that he got blown away and didn't just facetank it means the opposite IF ANYTHING.

Characters in Naruto dodge sharp attacks regardless of who uses it. For example, Naruto in base isn't going to tank a Kunai attack from Himawari, if he just stands there he's gonna get hurt its just how it is in the Narutoverse.

Shino for example moves out of the way when Boruto's Academy class practices Shuriken Jutsu, but they objectively don't scale to him.

1000%
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@Nierre Boruto should get durability negation with Uzuhiko.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
I don't play fair✌️:cool:

It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them. For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style, Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike, and Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically.
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Isshiki is scaled billions of times higher than Naruto Rikudō and Sasuke and they also didn't explode with a sneeze from Isshiki
 
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