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A lot of people do actually
Then I'm switching to Azathoth
you dont even like azathoth youre just choosing him cuz hes strong, I on the other hand at least am a die hard TF fan-
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
you dont even like azathoth youre just choosing him cuz hes strong, I on the other hand at least am a die hard TF fan
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What’re you basing this on though? We’ve seen through TT Fission / Claw Grimes that Bodies that come from/are composed of Juubi’s Body/Chakra are not equally as strong as the original.
Therefore, it’s certainly plausible that the Shinju Ego’s “can” have weaker bodies than Pre-God Tree Madara for Example.
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Real. I was visiting my parents last week and my mom got mad because I kept going "Transformers... SOMETHING EVIL'S WATCHING OVER YOU!" at random intervals.
MinatoSparkle
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I don't play fair
It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them. For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style, Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike, and Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically.
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I think he just meant that Boruto has to actually use ninjutsu and weapons to harm the shinju instead of just like, flicking their heads off, so they clearly are somewhat relative to him physically
MinatoSparkle
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I am indeed being facetious
Ghostimuscrime
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Imagine if a shinobi gets a Low-1C feat but does it via ninjutsu
Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
Would they be Low-5B upto Low-1C with x attack (this would be weird to think one of your attacks are transfinite times stronger than your other attacks when they draw energy from the same source)
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Video game/novel character type beat
MinatoSparkle
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Pray to the scaling gods that a character interacts with it physically
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Ehh.. this really doesn't mean much. Breakthrough never really does damage when used like that and is just meant to blow people away. TBH the fact that he got blown away and didn't just facetank it means the opposite IF ANYTHING.
Characters in Naruto dodge sharp attacks regardless of who uses it. For example, Naruto in base isn't going to tank a Kunai attack from Himawari, if he just stands there he's gonna get hurt its just how it is in the Narutoverse.
Shino for example moves out of the way when Boruto's Academy class practices Shuriken Jutsu, but they objectively don't scale to him.
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The year is 2034, the gang is still fighting Ryu and co in the sand
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I mean the way we usually do it is just use statements of “his strongest jutsu” “far superior to x which includes their combat capabilities” “x costs more chakra than y”
But this is a different case because it’s not making use of finite values, if I can output aleph 5 joules in a chidori I don’t see why I can’t do the same to my rasengan or even punches
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@Nierre Boruto should get durability negation with Uzuhiko.
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He has it
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Isshiki is scaled billions of times higher than Naruto Rikudō and Sasuke and they also didn't explode with a sneeze from IsshikiI don't play fair
It's not at all portrayed that there's such a difference cause Boruto doesn't injure them by just breathing on them. For example Hidari tanks Boruto's Wind Style, Boruto feels the need to dodge his strike, and Mamushi is pretty definitely a God Tier physically.
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That's what we call "built different"
MinatoSparkle
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That just shows that characters that tank it scale somewhat to the user as well. Even if very low end. Even if its "intent" isn't to hurt opponents, it still packs the chakra of the user in an offensive form.
I disagree pretty strongly. Sharp weapons are super effective, but there are plenty of cases where they're tanked when there's a large stat difference.
He'd have to reinforce his body with chakra to tank them, which he has no reason to waste his energy on if he can just stand to the side
We been over this that's not what he was doing
Him holding back is fine but he was most certainly not intentionally keeping them alive
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"or had reasons to not expend lots of energy because he was going to die in 20 years"We been over this that's not what he was doing
Almost like i acknowledged that he switched up on killer intent...
MinatoSparkle
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Or suggests it could be either one but alright then
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I'm just covering all bases since idk what GTSEK believes
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My point is, it is not wise to Blanket them with that Generalization. Hidari / Mamushi physical feats don’t inherently scale to Ryu or Matsuri.
So when you say things like, they shouldn’t be weaker than Six Paths Madara physically because These 2 “other” Characters have shown XYZ, that is textbook “Association Fallacy”.
My point is, it is not wise to Blanket them with that Generalization. Hidari / Mamushi physical feats don’t inherently scale to Ryu or Matsuri.
So when you say things like, they shouldn’t be weaker than Six Paths Madara physically because These 2 “other” Characters have shown XYZ, that is textbook “Association Fallacy”.
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When?
No, the technique literally does 0 damage. All it does is send people flying, it's an LS feat, not an AP feat. He got sent flying, so his LS is lower than the LS of Boruto's Breakthrough. Mitsuki used Breakthrough against Boro and his gas and literally did 0 damage despite being relative.
But regardless, Hidari still has mid physicals?? He literally has nothing to show for Tier 5 physicals as of now. He got knicked by Sarada's chidori and got his (wood) arm cut in half by Boruto, and got his shoulder blown off with a Rasengan.
Just based on his showings, he is NOT relative to Boruto, and only with Chidori.
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We should get Naruto's war arc base to baseline island level, not for wank reasons but because the profiles order of progression would look really good
WA naruto starting out at 7B sticks out painfully
- Part 1 Naruto [Tier 8 to Tier 7]
- Shippuden Naruto [Tier 7 to Tier 6]
- War Arc Naruto [Tier 6 to Tier 5]
- New Era Naruto [Tier 5 to Tier 4]
WA naruto starting out at 7B sticks out painfully
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this just gave me a devious idea 
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I mean mostly for abilities. There's only base and sage mode sections but I don't see anything for kn4/kn6
Ghostimuscrime
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why give out separate keys to transformations, keys are generally for when you get stronger overall and have all transformations and attack variations bumped up
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4 tails vs Orochimaru
Team 7 vs Deepa
Sasuke vs Fused Momoshiki
Suigetsu vs Obito
Admittedly, there isn't a lot of cases but that's more or less due to having very few instances when the weaker characters in a fight use sharp weapons against the stronger ones. It's usually characters who are in the same ball park as their opponents e.g Obito vs Bee, Sasuke vs Ay, Orochimaru vs Hiruzen, Sasuke vs Madara etc
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Chakra Cloak
Carbon Armor
Outlier (Was shown getting cut up by regular chakra enhanced tools that AREN’T Chakra Enhanced Kusanagi Blades in the same fight shortly after transforming).
Valid. We do know Naruto characters are durable against Cutting attacks (Base Naruto Wasn’t pierced by Gaara’s Steel Cutting Shuriken), but there is a threshold i’d argue.
