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Kaguya's page in general needs a rework sometime soon (one of us will get there eventually)

I didn't realize that recent thread ended cause i still had one more issue with it, specifically with DMS Kakashi being able to use the first gate
 
Kaguya's page in general needs a rework sometime soon (one of us will get there eventually)

I didn't realize that recent thread ended cause i still had one more issue with it, specifically with DMS Kakashi being able to use the first gate
Same, I was actually still planning on making another response, but whatever. I don't feel that strongly about it, and I guess I can just add it to the long list of shit I disagree with in our GT scaling 🤷‍♂️
 
Also how does Hagoromo have soul manipulation? None of the links work and iirc the juubi soul manipulation got yeeted in the past.
he used COAT to turn the Juubi's chakra into 9 separate souls(the bijuu) + stuff that's more fundamental to chakra's composition which Slayer will eventually get to when Wrath checks his basement and remembers to feed him.
 
Kaguya's page in general needs a rework sometime soon (one of us will get there eventually)

I didn't realize that recent thread ended cause i still had one more issue with it, specifically with DMS Kakashi being able to use the first gate
I mean I didn't think anything stopped him from hypothetically activating it (it doesnt cost anything per say, it just gives drawbacks) so I added that anyway

I'll keep threads open for longer next time so this issue doesn't happen next time
 
I mean I didn't think anything stopped him from hypothetically activating it (it doesnt cost anything per say, it just gives drawbacks) so I added that anyway
the problem is more what the 1st Gate draws from

The 1st Gate is a 5x multiplier because it allows you to draw 100% of your own physical power vs the 20% you can normally use.

DMS Kakashi isn't really his own power; it's Obito basically possessing Kakashi's body to temporarily let him use his Six Path's chakra.

1st Gate DMS Kakashi would need to be using his personal hidden reserves of physical power to amp himself 5x the Six Paths Chakra that Obito is letting him temporarily use, but that doesn't make any sense.

That's basically saying Normal, Sharinganless, Kakashi's 80% reserved chakra is 5x greater than Ghost Obito's Six Path power
I'll keep threads open for longer next time so this issue doesn't happen next time
would be helpful ty 🙏
 
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the problem is more what the 1st Gate draws from

The 1st Gate is a 5x multiplier because it allows you to draw 100% of your own physical power vs the 20% you can normally use.

DMS Kakashi isn't really his own power; it's Obito basically possessing Kakashi's body to temporarily let him use his Six Path's chakra.

1st Gate DMS Kakashi would need to be using his personal hidden reserves of physical power to amp himself 5x the Six Paths Chakra that Obito is letting him temporarily use, but that doesn't make any sense.

That's basically saying Normal, Sharinganless, Kakashi's 80% reserved chakra is 5x greater than Ghost Obito's Six Path power

would be helpful ty 🙏
you're right, I suppose arguing his increased muscle mass would consume obitos chakra at a higher right wont work?
 
you're right, I suppose arguing his increased muscle mass would consume obitos chakra at a higher right wont work?
that and the amp would be less than what Obito's chakra gave him since Base Kakashi is massively weaker than Ghost Obito

1st Gate Sharinganless Kakashi would be like Sub Rel or Rel, whereas Ghost Obito brought him to FTL

1st Gate would practically do nothing for more body strain here
 
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he used COAT to turn the Juubi's chakra into 9 separate souls(the bijuu) + stuff that's more fundamental to chakra's composition which Slayer will eventually get to when Wrath checks his basement and remembers to feed him.
Yeah COAT should have soul manip but TSB? Those are 2 separate jutsu/abilties, its like saying shadow clone jutsu gets soul manip cause its a forbidden jutsu like death reaper seal.

Don't forget to remind him to rub the lotion on the skin or they it'll get the hose again.
 
that and the amp would be less than what Obito's chakra gave him would give him since Base Kakashi is massively weaker than Ghost Obito

1st Gate Sharinganless Kakashi would be like Sub Rel or Rel, whereas Ghost Obito brought him to FTL

1st Gate would practically do nothing for more body strain here
you’re right I agree with this
 
I like Prescience’s portrayal in regard to how Koji is able to use it. He can see all possible futures, but for Combat purposes, it’s a predictive model meaning you have to have top tier Combat IQ to take advantage of it.
 
So, Shibai's supposed to be the Narutoverse's closest equivalent to "God", right? God's known, in a broad vague sense, to be Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent.

Omnipotence is covered through, well, Omnipotence lol.

Omniscience is covered through a combination of Prescience and the Senrigan. It's not quite full-on Omniscience, but I think it's the closest we're gonna get to it. Unless we assume Shibai's Senrigan doesn't share Eida's weakness, which isn't a huge stretch tbf.

That only leaves "Omnipresence", and I have a feeling Shibai's next big Shinjutsu to be revealed will be Omnipresence-themed. Wonder if it'll be some insane Space-Time Jutsu that allows him to exist in multiple places at once. Perhaps an insane combination of Clone Jutsu and Space-Time Jutsu. Something akin to Limbo, but more busted maybe.
 
So, Shibai's supposed to be the Narutoverse's closest equivalent to "God", right? God's known, in a broad vague sense, to be Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent.

Omnipotence is covered through, well, Omnipotence lol.

Omniscience is covered through a combination of Prescience and the Senrigan. It's not quite full-on Omniscience, but I think it's the closest we're gonna get to it. Unless we assume Shibai's Senrigan doesn't share Eida's weakness, which isn't a huge stretch tbf.

That only leaves "Omnipresence", and I have a feeling Shibai's next big Shinjutsu to be revealed will be Omnipresence-themed. Wonder if it'll be some insane Space-Time Jutsu that allows him to exist in multiple places at once. Perhaps an insane combination of Clone Jutsu and Space-Time Jutsu. Something akin to Limbo, but more busted maybe.
The three omnis and he still about to be a victim.
 
That only leaves "Omnipresence", and I have a feeling Shibai's next big Shinjutsu to be revealed will be Omnipresence-themed. Wonder if it'll be some insane Space-Time Jutsu that allows him to exist in multiple places at once. Perhaps an insane combination of Clone Jutsu and Space-Time Jutsu. Something akin to Limbo, but more busted maybe.
Probably sumn akin to Fudo Myo-o existing in all particles type beat. Maybe with a more existing throughout all creation as part of its code. Given Omnipotence is a coding language and the general sci fi aspect of Boruto.
 
That only leaves "Omnipresence", and I have a feeling Shibai's next big Shinjutsu to be revealed will be Omnipresence-themed. Wonder if it'll be some insane Space-Time Jutsu that allows him to exist in multiple places at once. Perhaps an insane combination of Clone Jutsu and Space-Time Jutsu. Something akin to Limbo, but more busted maybe.
What’s a reasonable way to make a Limbo-type ability more busted? Cause I actually like this idea for Shibai
 
So, Shibai's supposed to be the Narutoverse's closest equivalent to "God", right? God's known, in a broad vague sense, to be Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent.

Omnipotence is covered through, well, Omnipotence lol.

Omniscience is covered through a combination of Prescience and the Senrigan. It's not quite full-on Omniscience, but I think it's the closest we're gonna get to it. Unless we assume Shibai's Senrigan doesn't share Eida's weakness, which isn't a huge stretch tbf.

That only leaves "Omnipresence", and I have a feeling Shibai's next big Shinjutsu to be revealed will be Omnipresence-themed. Wonder if it'll be some insane Space-Time Jutsu that allows him to exist in multiple places at once. Perhaps an insane combination of Clone Jutsu and Space-Time Jutsu. Something akin to Limbo, but more busted maybe.
Maybe it is like a fully manifested and less restrictive version of Code's Claw marks, since he can use those already to appear anywhere with those marking.

Maybe the Claws themselves are the limitation and Shibai can just be anywhere he wants rather than anywhere there are marks
 
I mean, "Village hidden in the concrete" might have been a bit rough.
"Village Hidden in the Giant Rats, residing in the Land of Garbage Bags"
Maybe it is like a fully manifested and less restrictive version of Code's Claw marks, since he can use those already to appear anywhere with those marking.

Maybe the Claws themselves are the limitation and Shibai can just be anywhere he wants rather than anywhere there are marks
Yeah, I mean tbh, Unrestricted Multiversal Teleportation + Clones/Avatars could very well simulate Omnipresence in a way lol.
 
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