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Anyway anyone got any other suggestions as to who scales and can we apply the changes currently accepted?
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Naruto revisions Part MCMLXVII: still ongoing.
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I already applied to Orochimaru
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@sherk
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Uchiha Reflection (Uchiha Gaeshi)
Ninjutsu,close range,defensive,offensive, B-rank.
Users: Uchiha Madra/Uchiha Obito
The fan that produces the rough wind!
Uchiha family member s specialty to fan the fire is in their blood (this is why fan is their clan symbol,their pride- TN). Madra s weapon Gumbai Uchiwa (war fan) is a honorific, inherited from previous clansmen generations, carved of an unique spirit (sacred) tree "ryouju" from which only special ritual instruments are made.
This fan has a bound ability to convert incoming chakra to wind nature manipulation (seishitsu). By using the fan s stiffness,it returns back the enemy's jutsu in a burst of a violent storm,this is the "Uchiha reflection"nature. During the era of the warring kingdoms Madara killed many ninja by their own ninjutsu.
Picture 1: During the stage of the 4-th Great Ninja War Madara used this war fan to absorb Naruto' s "Chou mini bijudama".
Picture 2. And instantly converted into wind nature transformation. Strong gust of wind blew away Naruto' s shadow clone.
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Uchiha Reflection (Uchiha Gaeshi)
Ninjutsu,close range,defensive,offensive, B-rank.
Users: Uchiha Madra/Uchiha Obito
The fan that produces the rough wind!
Uchiha family member s specialty to fan the fire is in their blood (this is why fan is their clan symbol,their pride- TN). Madra s weapon Gumbai Uchiwa (war fan) is a honorific, inherited from previous clansmen generations, carved of an unique spirit (sacred) tree "ryouju" from which only special ritual instruments are made.
This fan has a bound ability to convert incoming chakra to wind nature manipulation (seishitsu). By using the fan s stiffness,it returns back the enemy's jutsu in a burst of a violent storm,this is the "Uchiha reflection"nature. During the era of the warring kingdoms Madara killed many ninja by their own ninjutsu.
Picture 1: During the stage of the 4-th Great Ninja War Madara used this war fan to absorb Naruto' s "Chou mini bijudama".
Picture 2. And instantly converted into wind nature transformation. Strong gust of wind blew away Naruto' s shadow clone.
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@Omimi
Sry but i dont really get the point of your last comment?
Sry but i dont really get the point of your last comment?
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Seeing as how Hiruzen Sarutobi scales to Orochimaru then it's only far I put him at 7-B too.
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What about the mask? u trying to say obito tanked cause of the mask only?Omimi said:
he also tanked a rasegan to his shoulder and could damage kcm naruto physically and tanked a headbut from naruto
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Um his neck would break and he just wears the mask ie why would the mask be >>>>>>>ObitoOmimi said:
he tanked a rasengan from naruto to the shoulder and hurt him physically
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To be fair , Obito didn't really ttank the full brunt of the Rasengans .ShrekAlmighty said:
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@TheFinalOrder
How?
he got hit directly twice once in shoulder once on the head
How?
he got hit directly twice once in shoulder once on the head
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He got grazed and pushed out of the Kamui Space and his mask broke, but clearly if he got a direct hit to the face, he'd be in bad shape. The only logical conclusion is that in every instance, Obito exited the Kamui space before taking the full brunch unless you think:ShrekAlmighty said:
- Kakashi's Punch
- BM Naruto's Headbutt
- Base Minato's Rasengan
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Punches naruto
naruto states he cant take even a single punch
punches him again
shrugs off his rasengan like nothing
Clearly takes the hit and as he was already in kamui at that time he couldnt have moved out
Now:
kakashi punched obito that didnt expect it
Kcm naruto was in pain after the headbutt but obito didnt even twitch
base minato hit a 16 years younger obito who did not have the rinnegan and was far weaker
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Now that thats solved should we apply the changes and are there any other suggestions
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@Shrek
That's not solved. You didn't dusprove anything. It's laughable you even consider this. Even if he did, everything contradicts it. So, no.
That's not solved. You didn't dusprove anything. It's laughable you even consider this. Even if he did, everything contradicts it. So, no.
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@TFO
I disprove everything u said,what do u mean by everything
@Mindovin
Weapon is powerless without a wielder as it cant produce any force its immovable,inanimate,not alive naruto didnt say gunbai is strong he said obito is strong
I disprove everything u said,what do u mean by everything
@Mindovin
Weapon is powerless without a wielder as it cant produce any force its immovable,inanimate,not alive naruto didnt say gunbai is strong he said obito is strong
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So Base Tsunade is 7-B via being the physically strongest of the sannin and fighting on par against Orochimaru in their bout correct?
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Yes indeed
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@Omimi
Yes its a technique madara uses to reflect chakra attacks but what does it matter to obito considering he just punched naruto with the gunbai he didnt use uchiha reflection
Yes its a technique madara uses to reflect chakra attacks but what does it matter to obito considering he just punched naruto with the gunbai he didnt use uchiha reflection
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You heard it here first folks, according to Shrekalmighty:
- Kakashi Physically has more AP than BM/KCM Naruto's Rasengan.
- Base Minato Rasengan > BM/KCM Naruto Rasengan by leaps and bounds.
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@Shrek
I didn't say Obito weak or anything but weapon itself have power.
Nar─▒to says He's so strong! I can't get a attack in! and with this Naruto speak about Obito's overall fighting prowess and Kamui because this before they can discovered Kamui's secret.
I didn't say Obito weak or anything but weapon itself have power.
Nar─▒to says He's so strong! I can't get a attack in! and with this Naruto speak about Obito's overall fighting prowess and Kamui because this before they can discovered Kamui's secret.
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What?TheFinalOrder said:
1:Never said kakashi is stronger than either of them he only hurt obito cause he didnt expect him
2:That was a obito 16 years younger obito without a rinnegan he was far weaker back then
what are u trying to imply bro i never said either of those things
Obito=Kcm2 naruto>Kcm Naruto>>>>>Base Minato or kakashi
thats the only thing i wrote
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He we clearly hurt by obito later on obito even destroys his kcm2 clone with one of the weapons summons from the kamui dimension if u want im gonna find the featMindovin said:
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> Low 6-B Base Kakashi and Minato.
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@Kep
no one even mentioned low 6-b kakashi and minato
TFO was just talking random stuff to make my arguments moot
no one even mentioned low 6-b kakashi and minato
TFO was just talking random stuff to make my arguments moot
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Sry Gemmy will lower my space even tho my inner ogre is telling me not to
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One must also look at the portrayal. Sasuke was screaming his lungs out and swung at him with everything he had & Itachi just looked at it disapprovingly & swatted it away, DESTROYING it.
There's also the fact that the explosions created by their attacks were equal.
He also KOed him with Chakra crows
And Kabuto even said that he was faster than Sauce
He also saved Sasuke's life several times during the Kabuto fight.
And Sasuke was simply in awe of him after he cast Izanami.
There's also the fact that the explosions created by their attacks were equal.
He also KOed him with Chakra crows
And Kabuto even said that he was faster than Sauce
He also saved Sasuke's life several times during the Kabuto fight.
And Sasuke was simply in awe of him after he cast Izanami.
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Oke Julian
anyway can we finally apply other changes
and does anyone have any other suggestions
anyway can we finally apply other changes
and does anyone have any other suggestions
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I hope you're not talking about physical stats.
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High 6-C v2 jinchuriki is clear outlier it makes no sense that a partial transformation is as strong as a complete bijuu transformation
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For last time does anyone disagree with 7-B changes posted above?
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I think KCM Naruto should be 7-A depending on how high KMC4 Naruto is on the 7-B+ scale.
I say this because KCM Naruto => Prime Nagato > KMC8 Naruto >>> Six Paths of Pain => Sage Naruto > Sage Jiraiya >>>> Base Jiraiya >>> KMC4 Naruto (7-B+)
I say this because KCM Naruto => Prime Nagato > KMC8 Naruto >>> Six Paths of Pain => Sage Naruto > Sage Jiraiya >>>> Base Jiraiya >>> KMC4 Naruto (7-B+)
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