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Naruto Moon Conundrum (Potential Upgrades)

However, the Moon also lost plenty of mass to being torn apart by the Earth and forming daily, massive meteor showers, as well as circling the Earth with Saturn-like rings, so I guess one could argue its original mass had to be pretty high still.
 
Kep, is the gravity that people were saying was Earthlike at about the distance of the core? Also, was the gravity pulling towards the center of the moon?
 
Oh wait...

There still has to be air in the moon for people to breathe.

Would that add anything to the mass?
 
  • Moon Density: 3340 km/m^3
  • Density of Oxygen: 1.225 kg/m^3
  • Assuming the moon is entirely made of air = 2.1968e+19 m^3 * (1.225/3340) = 8.0571257e+15 kilograms
 
Yeah I know. I was just doing a basic thing. Assuming the crust is like, 2 kilometers thick

  • Volume of the IRL Moon = 2.1968e+19
  • Volume of the empty space in the Naruto Moon = 2.1816e+19
  • Moon - empty space = 1.52e+17 for the crust volume
  • 1.52e+17 * 3340 = 5.0768e+20 kg
  • 2.1816e+19 * 1.225 = 2.67246e+19 kg
  • 5.0768e+20 kg + 2.67246e+19 kg = 5.344046e+20 kg
  • IRL Moon mass = 7.346e+22 kg
 
I think we should calculate the mass that was ejected due to the Moon breaking apart. It was enough to form entire rings of hundreds of island sized meteors around the world, and then an entire row of even larger meteors leading all the way to the Moon. It had to be a crapton.
 
That's not the entire crust though, that's from wherever the hell Naruto and Co and Toneri's castle was to the surface, i don't remember it being stated that they were at the core of the moon.
 
Kepekley23 said:
I agree that it has to be hollow as hell for these shots, but they take place after the Moon lost a considerable portion of its crust weight due to the Earth's gravitational pressure. There were enough meteoric fragments to form Saturn-like rings around the globe, and they all look like they're at least island sized.
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I agree, but even if you added another few kilometers of rock in there it'd still be notably less massive than the current assumption.
 
Hollows
The red part could be ALL that was hollowed out and all those shots would still be possible, just because we see a couple scenes of a few hundred meters being hollowed out doesn't suddenly mean we have 3000 kilometers of hollow space
Toneri cut through the middle and we never saw a complete shot at all, all we saw was it move through the few hundred/ a kilometer or two space that kurama and tenseigan avatar were fighting in
 
> The red part could be ALL that was hollowed out and all those shots would still be possible, just because we see a couple scenes of a few hundred meters being hollowed out doesn't suddenly mean we have 3000 kilometers of hollow space

We say a pretty decent panning shot when Toneri sliced the moon in half. There's more supporting evidence for thin crust then a small hollowed section.
 
Also, Blah, I don't know if this answers what you're trying to ask or not because I'm really sleepy right now, but there is evidence that the gravity of the Naruto moon is centered around the upper crustal layers, not the core.

If y'all recall, Naruto "fell" to the crust in the see-through crater scene.
 
Naruto moon is messed up man. Sakura, Hinata, and Shikamaru can breathe in outer space with no explanation.
 
Kepekley23 said:
@Blahblah

Question 1: Yes.
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Okay, thank you. In that case, using the formula to find mass from gravitational pull and distance, and plugging in the radius of our moon's core, we would have the core of Naruto's moon having a mass of 1.32174434*10^22 kilograms.

This would not be changed by any hollowness, because the formula only depends on gravity and distance from the center.
 
Kepekley23 said:
Also, Blah, I don't know if this answers what you're trying to ask or not because I'm really sleepy right now, but there is evidence that the gravity of the Naruto moon is centered around the upper crustal layers, not the core.

If y'all recall, Naruto "fell" to the crust in the see-through crater scene.
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Oh… if you can "fall" out of the crust without any gravity altering ninjutsu being in play then what I said above doesn't matter, since that would require the moon's gravity to not just be lolfiction, and any gravity away from the literal center would be.
 
To add both Kurama and the statue fell out of the hole but were drawn back to the crust
 
This would only affect Toneri's feat if it goes through, by the way. Hagoromo and those who scale to him would retain their ratings.
 
No there isn't, literally every scan you showed can be explained

>You can see the entire crust here

No you can't lol, you can see Kurama avatar and the golem's position relative to the crust.

> Agai

That's literally not even the moon, unless you want to sit here and explain to me why Sai can suddenly fly in
Crop
outer space, hell that doesn't even look like the moon that's continually depicted differently ALL through the movie, that#s just a passageway back to the tunnels they took the moon
> Agai

Again, this ISN'T the entire crust, this is from Where Naruto and Co were to the surface, and considering they only travelled like 10 kilometers or so according to Hinata during the movie they clearly didn't make it far from the tunnels that were connected to earth that could've been connected to ANYWHERE on the moon, you have absolutely no proof they were near the core

>Nine-Tails launched this giant statue

Using cinematic timing is bad enough on it's own but it';s even worse when it not only goes against our uses of cinematic timing (a cut away from the scene) but when it happens off panel and you're using that time to judge the distance, also Nine tails and Golem were only down a hole they jumped down, unless you want to sit here and say the hole led all the way to the core and they got there in 20 seconds with freefall.

These are just a bunch of cherry picked out of context screenshots that can be explained by "we aren't seeing all of it"
 
I'm not commenting on the surface gravity stuff but this notion that the moon is "99%" or anywhere NEAR that amount hollow is kinda ridicilous.

The moon may be more hollow than what we have it at but 15% is the best with the evidence given to us.
 
Toneri's slice actually does suggest the Moon is at least close to being that hollow, since it went from the westernmost portion of the Moon to the easternmost, and while the slice was shown we saw a fully empty, panned out view showing how his slice did not even cut through any rock within the Moon's interior, other than the one in the bottom floor, despite the fact it traversed the Moon's diameter.
 
> No you can't lol, you can see Kurama avatar and the golem's position relative to the crust.

You can see the thickness of the crust yeah.

> That's literally not even the moon

But... it is the moon. They haven't even gotten to the caves yet in that image. Scene happens about an hour and fourty minutes into the movie. As for why they can fly, the same reason why they can breathe. Just because.

> Again, this ISN'T the entire crust

But it shows the thickness again

> Nine tails and Golem were only down a hole they jumped down, unless you want to sit here and say the hole led all the way to the core and they got there in 20 seconds with freefall.

Who said they were at the core? To my memory they jumped from one of Toneri's castles

> These are just a bunch of cherry picked out of context screenshots that can be explained by "we aren't seeing all of it"

Only thing I would be cherry picking would be the cinematic timing, which I mentioned was a lot of time either way.
 
That first scan is Qaws mentioning the thickness of the crust, which he is right about. We can see the entire crust in that shot and it's very thin.

The second scan is an assumption by you. It's easily the moon since we see the crust and the void of space with stars in it.

The third scan is again Qaws mentioning the crust. It's still very thin as he said.

The 4th scan of Kurama launching the statue does depend on the cinematic timing rules; however, as Qaws even says it still took quite a while and can't be brushed off.

There is also:

I was formerly convinced that only a couple hundred km were hollow, but I rewatched the movie recently, as well as weighed all examples up.

It's hollow enough that Toneri can slice through it without meeting any rock that isn't located near the core. It has to be pretty damn hollow.

15% is an incredible high-ball at this point.
 
Doesn't really nerf anyone. Besides Toneri and Naruto being 5-C instead of Low 5-B.
 
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