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Naruto Major Overhaul Part 3: Stardust Crusaders
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Yes, I agree with @M3X regarding EMS Sasuke's base stats. He should just scale to or above his Taka self, as he has no AP feats that would give his base physicals and Jutsu any upgrade (Though he does have a bunch of speed feats, which may be relevant when we revise speed down the road).
As for his feat of matching the chakra output of KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken, that was done via Kagetsuchi/Amaterasu, which we know for a fact to be far above his regular Ninjutsu and physicals. Not to mention, that attack was amplified to the point of harming the Juubi, so there's absolutely no reason to scale it to Sasuke's physicals.
Anyway, I think I might have time today to help with some of the justifications.
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Quick question, are we getting rid of 7-A+?
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Here is my sandbox with the updated ratings and justifications. Credit to LordTracer, even while banned he is helpful. He also linked tons of scans to use.
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We're going to have to change a lot of this. Edo Madara scaling to 6-C hasn't been accepted.Here is my sandbox with the updated ratings and justifications. Credit to LordTracer, even while banned he is helpful. He also linked tons of scans to use.
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So, I'll ask here.
Since when is assuming the manipulation and movement of electrons the standard for water creation? Don't you worry, I'll make a crt if it is a standard procedure - not only is it a ridicolous assumption, it also scales the characters to supposedly millions of Celsius worth of heat created that are notably missing - but supposedly it was refused in the past to begin with.
Likewise, why wouldn't the time frame matter? The fact that the chakra was channelled beforehand wouldn't change that only a set amount if heat was magic ked into existence per second, supposedly.
Since when is assuming the manipulation and movement of electrons the standard for water creation? Don't you worry, I'll make a crt if it is a standard procedure - not only is it a ridicolous assumption, it also scales the characters to supposedly millions of Celsius worth of heat created that are notably missing - but supposedly it was refused in the past to begin with.
Likewise, why wouldn't the time frame matter? The fact that the chakra was channelled beforehand wouldn't change that only a set amount if heat was magic ked into existence per second, supposedly.
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Que?
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Kisame'e 7-A feat assumes his jutsu caused this: "electrons being re-distributed around the nuclei of multiple atoms and binding those atoms into molecules"
Which, as a side effect, would create so much heat that a nuclear explosion wouldn't be able to match up.
The 7-A, is that supposed heat.
Which, as a side effect, would create so much heat that a nuclear explosion wouldn't be able to match up.
The 7-A, is that supposed heat.
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You should ask @Jvando about this, since he made the calc.
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I have told you twice that I will. The fact that supposedly this kind of Calc got rejected already'll make that smoother I'm pretty sure.
I'll ask here what I asked there. What other verse uses this "standard" method for water creation. If you could list them off I'll take this to a different crt.
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It was either that or mass-energy conversion but since the latter can’t be used for calculations unless there’s an explicit statement (or something), I used the former. I didn’t calculate the energy required for him to gather the ambient air molecules because in Lore, the only Shinobi capable of that was the Secong Hokage, as such, Kisame didn’t do that either. (Personally I think mass-energy makes more sense but I’m kind of stuck here you see?)
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I'm sorry. I assumed that when you said "unless you want to remove all water creation calcs", you've had knowledge of any others besides this.
Here it is at least. If it goes through, it will be rather important to this thread.
Here it is at least. If it goes through, it will be rather important to this thread.
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I get that, but I'm saying the method is wrong. Only because it doesn't fit with one method doesn't mean another one will automatically work.
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Ha, that's for amateurs
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We've mastered the game, kek.
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Bump.
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Water Creation Thread? Did I miss something?
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Hey @Damage3245, I need to ask your opinion about something that'll probably decide how we move forward with the scaling.
Since the Kisame feat isn't usable anymore, I was wondering if we could use this feat instead:
Basically, the idea is to scale One-Tailed Naruto's durability to the War arc fodder who had one-tailed Kyūbi cloaks. This is due to the fact that he distributed Kurama's chakra over hundreds to thousands of people, while it's normally more focused/concentrated inside him. It would be weird if such a watered down version of the cloak is vastly more powerful than the full thing, I believe.
So what do you think?
Since the Kisame feat isn't usable anymore, I was wondering if we could use this feat instead:
Basically, the idea is to scale One-Tailed Naruto's durability to the War arc fodder who had one-tailed Kyūbi cloaks. This is due to the fact that he distributed Kurama's chakra over hundreds to thousands of people, while it's normally more focused/concentrated inside him. It would be weird if such a watered down version of the cloak is vastly more powerful than the full thing, I believe.
So what do you think?
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I mean, that's all fine and dandy, but my question has nothing to do with KCM Naruto's durability anyway. Could you please answer my question, @Damage3245 ?
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My comment on the calc has nothing to with the fodder Shinobi's durability, so I don't know why you're framing my evaluation as an attempt to reject the whole thing.
@UchihaSlayer96; I'm thinking about it.
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Translation: "I'm thinking a way to reject it and make your work even harder"
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IZANAMI FOR YOU
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I should just accept my fate, and realize that the scaling will never be fixed. It's the only way to break the loop!
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