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Naruto: Kaguya and star-creation?

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It was brought up in another thread that Kaguya may have created an entire star as part of a pocket universe.

Technically, this would strongly contradict her othervise displayed attack potency, so, if accepted, we should probably keep it as a separate "Possibly 4-C via hax" addition, rather than a replacement.

However, I am also uncertain if she actually created the contents of the pocket realities in question, or simply used them for her own purposes?
 
This is highly debateable and I not so sure if that is correct. I believe more evidence and accurate info should put to light on this topic.
 
I think its safe to say that she created them. I mean there is a dimension that only exists to allow Kaguya (in particular) to absorb the chakra of the IT victims. I highly doubt that occurs naturally so by Occam's Razor...

Plus there's the fact that Zetsu said that she was creating a new "dimension", as opposed to "planet" or anything else, when she pulled out her ETSB.

In terms of applying this to her stats the only way I would see this happening would be through her ETSB, and not scaling to her regular AP. We could also maybe add a note at the bottom of the page that the ETSB needs to expand to that point first, which might take some time.
 
i think via hax is the safest because Naruto and Sasuke being star is kind of ridiculos all over the sudden tbh
 
^ Hax or not, theres no way in hell Naruto and Sasuke (or anyone for that matter) scales to this. So theres nothing to be worried about concerning sudden upgrades for anyone else.
 
Well, sometimes within fiction, a character displays some specific non-combat-oriented feat that is far higher than their actual scale of destruction. For example, Adam Warlock merged together two different timelines.
 
^The sun can fit a thousand earths...I agree with Tivanek this is highly suspect. I doubt Kaguya can create a star. The dimension she was in probably did have a star already and kaguya was using for her own purposes
 
Yes. That is what I suspect as well, given that we were not told either way, as far as I am aware.
 
Well, Black Zetsu (a reliable source) explicitly stated that Kaguya was going to create a new dimension with her ETSB. And seeing as the dimensions Kaguya has access to are tailored to her needs and uninhabited I think it stands to reason that she created them...
 
FinalBattleX01 said:
Well, Black Zetsu (a reliable source) explicitly stated that Kaguya was going to create a new dimension with her ETSB. And seeing as the dimensions Kaguya has access to are tailored to her needs and uninhabited I think it stands to reason that she created them...
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Or she could have just traveled to the dimensions which suits her needs
 
@Eldritch abomination Agreed.
 
@Eldritch abomination

So you're saying she was able to find a dimension that is completely barren except for the fact that it specifically allowed her and her alone to drain the chakra of the IT victims on earth?

edit: also apparently that "Core Dimension" links all of Kaguya's dimensions together.

@-BANLK-

If this upgrade ever goes through we should mention that it takes time for the ETSB to reach Star Level since according to the databook it has to expand first. Someone in some other thread said that the ETSB could work well as a timer in a battle. Beat Kaguya before it kiils you kinda thing...
 
^ I guess. I mean, if someone ran into it face first it would still kill them but yeh, you could theoretically avoid it until it became too large to dodge.

Kakashi, while contemplating hiding in the Kamui dimension, said: "If that thing keeps growing larger at that pace, there's no way we'd be able to return"
 
FinalBattleX01 said:
@Eldritch abomination
So you're saying she was able to find a dimension that is completely barren except for the fact that it specifically allowed her and her alone to drain the chakra of the IT victims on earth?
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Yes,she did have to find a dimension that is barren. however, her dimensions as you said are connected through the core dimension. She could possibly drain the IT victims from any of those dimensions. I'm saying that she didn't necessarily create the dimension and star. She simply traveled to it.
 
Well, we are not talking about upgrading her to star level overall, just that one of her techniques may or may not have created a star, but that this is not useful for anything else.
 
Okay then. So you think that we should remove the highlight and close this?
 
Btw: Should one of us write a footnote on Kaguya's page, regarding that the star within the pocket realm is considered to either have been there previously, or to be an outlier, considering how inconsistent it is with her other displays?
 
@Eldritch abomination

Seriously dude, you cant just assume this stuff. Zetsu clearly states "being able to directly absorb chakra from the ninja under the effect of the IT, this Genesis Dimension is mother's special domain". Zetsu also states that "this place is directly connected to the other five dimensions" implying that Kaguya only has access to 6 dimensions overall (using her teleportation technique). If she could freely travel to any dimension why would she restrict herself to 6 in such an important battle?

@Matthew Schroeder

But no one is arguing AP. Its hax through ETSB. And for it to be an outlier it has to be contradicted by other showings. What contradicts this? I can understand calling something like Sakura wounding Kaguya an outlier, but ignoring this completely disregards a big part of Naruto lore (the origin of Kaguya's dimensions)

p.s. didnt Irene Belserion go up like 6 Tiers through hax? We were cool with that...
 
Thanks. I will close this then.
 
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