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Naruto Calculation Discussion: Biju Dama Requiem

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KingTempest said:
You don't upscale addition like that.

Also, the next tier is 424 GT away, that's not close at all
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We had the upscale thread though iirc that’s 2x away from being into the next tier hence why I said that but oof I didn’t know it was that far away so nvm but the Low 6B+ should be able to upscale
 
BlackeJan said:
We had the upscale thread though iirc that’s 2x away from being into the next tier hence why I said that but oof I didn’t know it was that far away so nvm but the Low 6B+ should be able to upscale
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You upscale via being superior to a value, not via being close to a value.

If you calc Itachi's strongest attack and get 999 Megatons, we won't upscale it all because it's close to the next tier.
 
KingTempest said:
If you calc Itachi's strongest attack and get 999 Megatons, we won't upscale it all because it's close to the next tier.
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IIRC wasn't there a case by case basis for characters who performed the Feat and Upscaling from it depending on how the feat was performed (Casualness of how the Feat was performed, Condition of the Character when they performed the Feat, How close the Feat is to the next Tier or "+" sign, etc.)
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
IIRC wasn't there a case by case basis for characters who performed the Feat and Upscaling from it depending on how the feat was performed (Casualness of how the Feat was performed, Condition of the Character when they performed the Feat, How close the Feat is to the next Tier or "+" sign, etc.)
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If the calc is a lowball and it’s within a couple percentages of the next tier it can be upscaled.
 
KingTempest said:
You upscale via being superior to a value, not via being close to a value.

If you calc Itachi's strongest attack and get 999 Megatons, we won't upscale it all because it's close to the next tier.
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Ok I get that part but 1st Form Juubi is far superior to 50% Kurama and Gyuki so 1st Form Juubi would pretty be baseline 6B if he’s not already that or more

EDIT: wait didn’t Kurama and Gyuki combined TBB stopped 1st Form Juubi’s own? So wouldn’t we just do Low 6B+ and multiply that by 2 since it’s a combination of both that?
 
Sooo idk if this is derailment or if someone brought this up, but despite my love for 8-B Naruto, I have some problems with this calc. Vaporization isn’t an issue because apparently it's for every katon, but isn’t that heat. Why is the heat of the fireball scaled to striking strength? The impact of the fireball was actually fragmentation. That's like putting Taka Sasuke at 6-C for burning Killer B or 6-A before his sage amps for burning the Ten Tails.
My next issue is, that's not rock. That's dry dirt, which can be cracked, and as shown by all the grass growing on it.

With the impact being fragmentation of dirt, the results would actually be 453750 joules or 9-B. Please tell me what’s wrong because I'm very concerned.
 
Zamasu_Chan said:
Sooo idk if this is derailment or if someone brought this up, but despite my love for 8-B Naruto, I have some problems with this calc. Vaporization isn’t an issue because apparently it's for every katon, but isn’t that heat. Why is the heat of the fireball scaled to striking strength? The impact of the fireball was actually fragmentation. That's like putting Taka Sasuke at 6-C for burning Killer B or 6-A before his sage amps for burning the Ten Tails.
My next issue is, that's not rock. That's dry dirt, which can be cracked, and as shown by all the grass growing on it.

With the impact being fragmentation of dirt, the results would actually be 453750 joules or 9-B. Please tell me what’s wrong because I'm very concerned.
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Regardless of if I agree or not…

This is like, the wrong thread for that
 
BlackeJan said:
Ok I get that part but 1st Form Juubi is far superior to 50% Kurama and Gyuki so 1st Form Juubi would pretty be baseline 6B if he’s not already that or more

EDIT: wait didn’t Kurama and Gyuki combined TBB stopped 1st Form Juubi’s own? So wouldn’t we just do Low 6B+ and multiply that by 2 since it’s a combination of both that?
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Sidenote, MRKingTempest didnt apply the updated bijuudama calcs either, so quite literally everything needs updated (bijuudama, juubi calcs, C0, and meteor).
 
Zamasu_Chan said:
Well since I'm subscribed to this thread I might as well ask what’s going on. So what's the deal here with the Bijuu stuff?
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Frost Country size got downgraded -> calcs had to be changed to reflect the new distance

The previous crater formula was removed -> I found a new one -> DT worked out the specifics -> calcs had to be changed to reflect the new crater formula
 
I'll update the verse page with the new calcs when I get home. That way we'll have easier access to them when we need to.
I can also help with editing the profiles if King needs it, but we need to decide how we'll handle the Juubi's ratings first.

OBH graciously covered the other Bijū for us already. Kudos to him.
OneBleachHurricane said:
So,

Bijū's 1 to 7 are 64.37 Gigatons each

Gyuki is also 64.37 Gigatons with a Regular TBB while he's 6.21 Teratons with a Charged TBB

Is 50% Kurama gonna be 321.85 Gigatons with a Regular TBB and 6.21 Teratons with a Charged TBB?

While 100% Kurama is gonna be 643.70 Gigatons with a Regular TBB and 12.42 Teratons with a Charged TBB?
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On to big boy tree boy then,

First Forms Durability is 6-B (12.42 Teratons) via tanking Gyuki and Kurama's Combined Charged TBB when it was still undergoing metamorphosis.

While the First Form's AP/SS is High 6-C+ (579.33 Gigatons from 64.37 Gigatons X 9)

Second Form retains the 6-B Durability (12.42 Teratons)

While the Second Form's AP/SS scales to its TBBs either High 6-C+/Low 6-B (875.53 Gigatons or 956.43 Gigatons/1 Teraton) or to it's Tenpachii 6-B (8.5 Teratons or 17 Teratons)

Third Form just scales above Second Form Stats because its a Giga-Chad
 
Now, do we still scale 50% Kurama's Durability to the Jubi's AP (836.81/836.85 Gigatons ~ High 6-C+)?

Or just have 50% Kurama's Durability scale to his own regular AP (321.85 Gigatons ~ High 6-C)?
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Now, do we still scale 50% Kurama's Durability to the Jubi's AP (836.81/836.85 Gigatons ~ High 6-C+)?

Or just have 50% Kurama's Durability scale to his own regular AP (321.85 Gigatons ~ High 6-C)?
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Whatever gets rid of Kurama's Dumbass Stonewall Durability since it never made sense in the first place due to how much he gets his ass beat by people like Hashirama, who didn't scale to the Jūbi anymore.
 
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Well the difference between the Jubi's AP and Kurama's AP is only by a factor 2.6 Times.

If we decide to scale Kurama's Durability to the Jubi's AP he'd only be 2.6 Times more durable than his AP/SS

Compared to the previous High 6-C AP/SS and 6-B Durability
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Well the difference between the Jubi's AP and Kurama's AP is only by a factor 2.6 Times.

If we decide to scale Kurama's Durability to the Jubi's AP he'd only be 2.6 Times more durable than his AP/SS

Compared to the previous High 6-C AP/SS and 6-B Durability
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That's fine, I just hated the fact that Kurama should've been able to literally No-Sell attacks from ******* Sage Hashirama based on half of him taking hits from the Jūbi.
 
Nah, I don't think he needs to scale anymore. I think it's viable for a High 6-C to survive an attack from a High 6-C+, and let's not forget that Kurama's tail was even partially vaporized.

Also, 2nd Form Juubi also has a Low 6-B+ calc, which I think would make the 6-B scaling more consistent and whatnot.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Nah, I don't think he needs to scale anymore. I think it's viable for a High 6-C to survive an attack from a High 6-C+, and let's not forget that Kurama's tail was even partially vaporized.
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Bu-But how are we supposed to get Low 6-B Durability 100% Kurama?

Even though he had to curl up, and layer his tails to form a barrier, and still had large chunks of all his tails burned off.
 
OFF-TOPIC

About Hashirama's Wood Release, do we scale all of his Constructs to 100% Kurama or just his Golem and Giant Buddha? Didn't include the Dragons because their fodder against Kurama.
 
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