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IIRC wouldn't that argument apply only to Sasuke, since he's been the only dude consistently training himself due to his investigation journeys, while Naruto was noted by Kurama to have become rusty in his fight with Shin Uchiha? To be fair tho, there's a healthy bit of time between the Shin Uchiha arc and the Momoshiki arc, which would have given Naruto plenty of time to catch up.They try and use naruto and sasuke beating momoshiki easily as an anti feat which it really isn’t. There was literally a decade+ timeskip and we know they trained and got stronger. Naruto got the second half of kurama and sasuke mastered his rinnegan. It’s then stated many times that momoshiki is stronger than kaguya. It’s so bad to the point where she was willing to kill her own children just to create an army to defend herself lmao
There's also the fact that in the novel where Shikamaru restrains the kages, Shikamaru thinks Naruto and Sasuke are still the strongest. Then there's orochimaru saying they are equals in boruto. And only thing I could say is that sasuke performs better against Jigen but that's mainly due to his visual acuityIIRC wouldn't that argument apply only to Sasuke, since he's been the only dude consistently training himself due to his investigation journeys, while Naruto was noted by Kurama to have become rusty in his fight with Shin Uchiha? To be fair tho, there's a healthy bit of time between the Shin Uchiha arc and the Momoshiki arc, which would have given Naruto plenty of time to catch up.
Most likely, there's also always the chance that Naruto is prolly holding back massively. He didn't even bother to finish off Momoshiki by himself, he just let Boruto do all the heavy work.There's also the fact that in the novel where Shikamaru restrains the kages, Shikamaru thinks Naruto and Sasuke are still the strongest. Then there's orochimaru saying they are equals in boruto. And only thing I could say is that sasuke performs better against Jigen but that's mainly due to his visual acuity
naruto performs way better than sasuke in the second fight even before baryon modeThere's also the fact that in the novel where Shikamaru restrains the kages, Shikamaru thinks Naruto and Sasuke are still the strongest. Then there's orochimaru saying they are equals in boruto. And only thing I could say is that sasuke performs better against Jigen but that's mainly due to his visual acuity
king tempest agreed and partly shadowSo what are the conclusions here so far, and have any staff members agreed with anything?
king tempest agreed
Majestic attire should be Low 5-B, so should Jigen.
i have sent messages to some staff members waiting for them to reply. How many staff members need to agree to it?Okay. Agreed with what? Please provide a proper explanation.
but if you were to quantify it with numbers, how much would it be? also, shadow says we should sort out the anime vs manga because the manga and anime have different interpretations. so i suggest we make separate keys for the anime and manga in just boruto.Well, this is a rather prominent verse, and a bit of a controversial change, so we need some more staff agreement than usual.
nah.kaguya is stronger than momoshiki. but sadly we never her full power.They try and use naruto and sasuke beating momoshiki easily as an anti feat which it really isn’t. There was literally a decade+ timeskip and we know they trained and got stronger. Naruto got the second half of kurama and sasuke mastered his rinnegan. It’s then stated many times that momoshiki is stronger than kaguya. It’s so bad to the point where she was willing to kill her own children just to create an army to defend herself lmao
We...did? She was at full power in the latter half of the fight. Still got bodied by DMS Kakashi.nah.kaguya is stronger than momoshiki. but sadly we never her full power.
Anyway.If somebody properly explains what is suggested here, and the resulting arguments for and against, I could ask some staff members to take a look at it afterwards.
nope she didnt. 1st she didnt have all her power.2nd when she absorbed a bit chakra from IT,she become stronger and faster. 3rd her changing dimension taking a massive amount of chakra.We...did? She was at full power in the latter half of the fight. Still got bodied by DMS Kakashi.
Yeah when she absorbed IT she was beyond full power normally, as that's not her chakra.nope she didnt. 1st she didnt have all her power.2nd when she absorbed a bit chakra from IT,she become stronger and faster. 3rd her changing dimension taking a massive amount of chakra.
so yeah if she absorbed her prime chakra she will become way way wayy stronger and faster.
Literally just proved why Momoshiki is stronger but oknah.kaguya is stronger than momoshiki. but sadly we never her full power.
If somebody properly explains what is suggested here, and the resulting arguments for and against, I could ask some staff members to take a look at it afterwards.
I need some cooperation here...
Look, either you cooperate by writing a full elaborate explanation, and we might be able to get some help, or you don't, after which you can continue to argue for 10 pages without anything ever happening.Can someone please sum up the arguments?
Fused Momoshiki should be a direct addition because it’s stated that kinshiki’snpower had been directly passed on to momoshiki, base momoshiki and kinshiki individually should scale to toneris throwing the moon at earth feat with 199.3 Exatons making fused momoshiki 398.6 Exatons which is 1.09 times weaker than the baseline for small planet level. Naruto would scale to this individually and sasuke would atleast scale to kinshiki individually since there is controversy in whether he scales to fused momoshiki. Doing the math, they surpass the baseline for small planet level with the mejjestic attire susano. Jigen should be above this because it’s stated numerous times that no matter what they do, they will still lose and the only way to beat him is to wait till his life force runs out. Code without his limiters and eida should scale to this as well as isshiki and baryon mode narutoCan someone please sum up the arguments?
Look, either you cooperate by writing a full elaborate explanation, and we might be able to get some help, or you don't, after which you can continue to argue for 10 pages without anything ever happening.
I’ve summed up everything that is relevant to this threadLook, either you cooperate by writing a full elaborate explanation, and we might be able to get some help, or you don't, after which you can continue to argue for 10 pages without anything ever happening.
She absorbed IT chakra to recover. Nothing states she amped herself past her normal power.Yeah when she absorbed IT she was beyond full power normally, as that's not her chakra.
Giant rasengan go brr.Besides, we already know her limits. Below Momoshiki.
I'm pretty sure that much chakra would at the very least bring her to full power.She absorbed IT chakra to recover. Nothing states she amped herself past her normal power.
Giant rasengan go brr.
Full power, sure. But any additional amps, doubt since nothing points to that.I'm pretty sure that much chakra would at the very least bring her to full power.
Tanked a chidori tho and he did recover by eating more pills.Giant Rasengan from Adult Naruto against a weakened Momoshiki who just had the stuffing beaten out of him by NaruSauce.
8-B Boruto made Naruto's rasengan stronger? That's bit of a stretch.Isn't it implied Boruto made that rasengan stronger by spinning it
Jougan doesn't boost stats. It gives the abilities of a Byakugan, sees hostile chakra and S/T portal locations.and, while do it, he had his special eye activated?
But you said we never saw her at full power, so...are you admitting she was?Full power, sure. But any additional amps, doubt since nothing points to that.
Tanked a chidori tho and he did recover by eating more pills.
This is what DuDE said:But you said we never saw her at full power, so...are you admitting she was?
Then you replied with:She absorbed IT chakra to recover. Nothing states she amped herself past her normal power.
To which he replied with:I'm pretty sure that much chakra would at the very least bring her to full power.
Full power, sure. But any additional amps, doubt since nothing points to that.
It literally would make 0 ****** sense if the shinobi alliance boosted kaguya from moon level to nigh solar system lmao since the small country level kurama was literally able to simultaneously amp all of them without even trying but I think it’s a rule not to argue it here so let’s not do the thread doesn’t get closedFull power, sure. But any additional amps, doubt since nothing points to that.
Tanked a chidori tho and he did recover by eating more pills.
8-B Boruto made Naruto's rasengan stronger? That's bit of a stretch.
Jougan doesn't boost stats. It gives the abilities of a Byakugan, sees hostile chakra and S/T portal locations.
It does. How else do u think he was able to react and damage fused momoshiki lmao. Also, toneri stated that he has infinite potential because of the joganFull power, sure. But any additional amps, doubt since nothing points to that.
Tanked a chidori tho and he did recover by eating more pills.
8-B Boruto made Naruto's rasengan stronger? That's bit of a stretch.
Jougan doesn't boost stats. It gives the abilities of a Byakugan, sees hostile chakra and S/T portal locations.
TrueThis is what DuDE said:
Then you replied with:
To which he replied with:
In other words he says that IT just gave her back the Chakra she lost from Dimension Hopping
Kaguya at full power was before she used Amenominaka for the first time. When she casually tossed away Naruto and Sasuke like fodders.But you said we never saw her at full power, so...are you admitting she was?
I don't know about your definition of tanking, but to me it is taking damage and being able to carry on.He didn't tank it, it blew up in his arm damaging him.
He gained more muscle mass than before.And we have no idea how powerful those pills were. They could be regular jonin or kage level supplements for all we know.
Come on now, let's not try to pass outliers as facts. I don't think you want me to pull out the tree level rasengan clobbering Momo in the face lol.It does. How else do u think he was able to react and damage fused momoshiki lmao.
That's just a hyperbolic statement lol. Potential =/= current feats and abilities.Also, toneri stated that he has infinite potential because of the jogan
@Mr._Bambu @DemonGodMitchAubin @Elizhaa @Shadowbokunohero @Soldier_Blue @DarkDragonMedeus @Jvando @KingTempest @Damage3245Fused Momoshiki should be a direct addition because it’s stated that kinshiki’snpower had been directly passed on to momoshiki, base momoshiki and kinshiki individually should scale to toneris throwing the moon at earth feat with 199.3 Exatons making fused momoshiki 398.6 Exatons which is 1.09 times weaker than the baseline for small planet level. Naruto would scale to this individually and sasuke would atleast scale to kinshiki individually since there is controversy in whether he scales to fused momoshiki. Doing the math, they surpass the baseline for small planet level with the mejjestic attire susano. Jigen should be above this because it’s stated numerous times that no matter what they do, they will still lose and the only way to beat him is to wait till his life force runs out. Code without his limiters and eida should scale to this as well as isshiki and baryon mode naruto