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Naruto/Boruto Dattebayo General Discussion thread #11

For the RT i only got a list with four people on it. Pain, Nagato, Naruto Jirayia. If more KCM naruto scales to Super ST i got only a small list for that like around 4 or 5 people
 
We should go with the assumption that KCM will be at least 7-A. I don't think anyone's scaling to that Shinra Tensei. The thing might be Country level.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
We should go with the assumption that KCM will be at least 7-A. I don't think anyone's scaling to that Shinra Tensei. The thing might be Country level.
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They are Madara's Eye's, lol. They should scale above his EMS in power. So Technically...Nagato should be > EMS Madara with his Rinnegan in terms of pure power output/DC.
 
TheFinalOrder said:
Burning Full Fingers said:
We should go with the assumption that KCM will be at least 7-A. I don't think anyone's scaling to that Shinra Tensei. The thing might be Country level.
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They are Madara's Eye's, lol. They should scale above his EMS in power. So Technically...Nagato should be > EMS Madara with his Rinnegan in terms of pure power output/DC.
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Having Doujutsu doesn't affect AP though
 
Well....not quite actually. Jutsu strength beyond it's base power depends on a users skill level, so, Nagato with tge Rinnegan would have the potential to be > EMS Madara, but if Madara is more skilled with his EMS, then he would be > Nagato still. This is backed up by feats as well, especially if Madara's Susanoo is sccepted as High 6-A for only being partially destroyed by Hashirama.

Did I just Ninja myself.. ?
 
TataHakai said:
TheFinalOrder said:
Burning Full Fingers said:
We should go with the assumption that KCM will be at least 7-A. I don't think anyone's scaling to that Shinra Tensei. The thing might be Country level.
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They are Madara's Eye's, lol. They should scale above his EMS in power. So Technically...Nagato should be > EMS Madara with his Rinnegan in terms of pure power output/DC.
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Having Doujutsu doesn't affect AP though
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It doesn't affect AP of non Dojutsu specific abilities.

All the paths powers are Dojutsu abilities (Weird, but hey...).

Just like Susanoo and Such, Dojutsu abilities can be amped by the power of the eyes. And we know Sharingan gets stronger based on emotion.

That said, Rinnegan is stronger than EMS. The output of power depends on the users skill though.
 
@Itachi

Not everyone. Like Base Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru. They'll be dependant on Gamayu Endan if they're to receive any upgrade.

But Orochimaru at his peak, Sage Mode Jiraiya, and Byakugou Tsunade should scale.
 
He is literally more skilled. Nagato using Madara's rinnegan couldnt use and hasnt shown to master one of Madara's jutsu that comes from his rinnegan only. Thats Limbo. Madara revived was able to pull out limbo right off the back. Nagato never showed to use that jutsu which should logically mean Madara is more skilled in using rinnegan than Nagato. Madara was also able to bring down meteors on the naruto and gaara which Nagato never showed the ability to be able to make more than one at the same time.
 
AstralKing7 said:
He is literally more skilled. Nagato using Madara's rinnegan couldnt use and hasnt shown to master one of Madara's jutsu that comes from his rinnegan only. Thats Limbo. Madara revived was able to pull out limbo right off the back. Nagato never showed to use that jutsu which should logically mean Madara is more skilled in using rinnegan than Nagato. Madara was also able to bring down meteors on the naruto and gaara which Nagato never showed the ability to be able to make more than one at the same time.
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I know Madara is more skilled. When I said "If", I wasn't talking literally. Madara even taught Obito the Six Paths abilities.

But base to base, Madara's Rinnegan is > his EMS. But if he is more skilled with his EMS than Nagato is with the Rinnegan, then it's possible for his EMS abilities to surpass the Rinnegan abilities in power. That's what I was saying. And that's backed up by Madara's feats.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
@Astral
From what calculation?
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Its on from the Naruto dodges Third Raikage blog. It was evaluated by Tata and another calc member and Ant said it was ok to apply it i think cant remember what Ant said tbh forgot lol. But the feat is around Mach 3222 i believe. It should scale to anyone as fast or faster than SM naruto
 
AstralKing7 said:
Burning Full Fingers said:
@Astral
From what calculation?
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Its on from the Naruto dodges Third Raikage blog. It was evaluated by Tata and another calc member and Ant said it was ok to apply it i think cant remember what Ant said tbh forgot lol. But the feat is around Mach 3222 i believe. It should scale to anyone as fast or faster than SM naruto
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Everyone already scales to the kirin calc anyway.
 
i think itachi should scale since he was able to tank Kirin with his susanno. Kirin had a high end that placed it at mountain level if i remember correctly which is also consistent
 
@BFF

No reason to scale Itachi to SM Jiraiya in my opinion. he should just be a higher grade of 7-B

7-Bs that shouldnt scale to Pain:

Base Jiraiya

Base Tsunade

Orochimaru

Hiruzen

4 Tail Naruto

Susanoo Itachi and Sasuke

Out of my quick memory
 
Yea i dont think he should scale either as he is >>Oro but he did get killed of by Kinkaku and Ginkaku who are V2 Jinchuriki but weaker as they are "fake" jinchuriki.
 
So, Madara and Kabuto stay at 7-B too then.

I saw something about that in the main revisions back then, but I don't really remember the argument.
 
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