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um... idk about that.. he only had a fraction of chaos tbh we dont know if he could do those feats and yes he said he would destroy everything but that was ONLY after he ate arthur
 
I mean, cath said that he was going to destroy everything with a form. Which also includes the realms that contain stars and moons.
 
Lormac_CC said:
That after he consumes Arthur
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Well, we can do a key named "Arthur absorbed" for Cath.

Even then, the profile is outdated, becouse there are few abilities and resistances missed:

Resistance to death & Life manipulation, and he has Hax like Pocket reality manipulation, Brainwashing/Mind manipulation & Ilusion creation which has an incredible range, Inmortality type 5, and a regen comparable, if not superior to Ban's.
 
Why should the celestial and demon realms be assumed to be planets comparable in size to Earth?

All we know is that they are spaces disconnected from Britannia and therefore need portals to travel to.
But that doesn't say anything about the size of the realms.

We know Sunshine needs a solar body to function.
But where is it implied that it has to be comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth?

We know the celestial and demon realms have a light source.
But why would that mean the light comes from a star comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth?

The demon realm is seen to have two glowing/light reflecting objects orbiting it?
But why should those be assumed to be comparable in size to moons or stars when the demon realm itself isn't implied to be comparable in size to Earth? If the demon realm, its light source and the two objects are smaller than a planet, a star and two moons or stars respectively, the visual scale as seen from the ground in the new movie wouldn't be inconsistent. So that shot from the movie doesn't imply anything when it comes to size.


What I'm getting at is that the High 4-C ratings require multiple unsupported assumptions stacked on top of each other. Those are:
  • The celestial and demon realms are comparable in size to Earth.
  • Their light sources are stars comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth.
  • Sunshine requires a star comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth.
  • The two objects orbiting around the demon realm are moons or stars comparable in size to the moon or sun which orbit Earth.


There are also a few questions which aren't considered:
  • Why would the demon clan want to conquer Britannia (a small country) if they already have a planet and their ruler is capable of creating another one?
  • Why would the demon and goddess clans wage a war in Britannia if it's a land disconnected from their own realms? We know the two clans can travel directly to their realms i.e. Bellion and Meliodas invading the celestial realm and Mael invading the demon realm in a flashback. So why bother with Britannia?
  • What about the timeframes of the creation feats? Did the DK and SD create the realms with a snap of their fingers? Or did it take them millions of years to construct them? After all, time isn't a concern to these the two characters, as the Demon King spent over a billion and a half years chilling in purgatory. So then why should the fast creation be prefered over the slow creation, especially when the displayed feats in the series are far more consistent with the latter rather than the former?
 
bro your questions are for nabaka, the plot takes place in britnna thats all we got.. and timeframe dont matter for creation feats only destruction
 
Zezu1995 said:
and timeframe dont matter for creation feats only destruction
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By default on this wiki anyone who creates or destroys a planet is planetary if no specific size is given.
 
Tsotso said:
Why should the celestial and demon realms be assumed to be planets comparable in size to Earth?

All we know is that they are spaces disconnected from Britannia and therefore need portals to travel to.
But that doesn't say anything about the size of the realms.

We know Sunshine needs a solar body to function.
But where is it implied that it has to be comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth?

We know the celestial and demon realms have a light source.
But why would that mean the light comes from a star comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth?

The demon realm is seen to have two glowing/light reflecting objects orbiting it?
But why should those be assumed to be comparable in size to moons or stars when the demon realm itself isn't implied to be comparable in size to Earth? If the demon realm, its light source and the two objects are smaller than a planet, a star and two moons or stars respectively, the visual scale as seen from the ground in the new movie wouldn't be inconsistent. So that shot from the movie doesn't imply anything when it comes to size.


What I'm getting at is that the High 4-C ratings require multiple unsupported assumptions stacked on top of each other. Those are:
  • The celestial and demon realms are comparable in size to Earth.
  • Their light sources are stars comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth.
  • Sunshine requires a star comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth.
  • The two objects orbiting around the demon realm are moons or stars comparable in size to the moon or sun which orbit Earth.


There are also a few questions which aren't considered:
  • Why would the demon clan want to conquer Britannia (a small country) if they already have a planet and their ruler is capable of creating another one?
  • Why would the demon and goddess clans wage a war in Britannia if it's a land disconnected from their own realms? We know the two clans can travel directly to their realms i.e. Bellion and Meliodas invading the celestial realm and Mael invading the demon realm in a flashback. So why bother with Britannia?
  • What about the timeframes of the creation feats? Did the DK and SD create the realms with a snap of their fingers? Or did it take them millions of years to construct them? After all, time isn't a concern to these the two characters, as the Demon King spent over a billion and a half years chilling in purgatory. So then why should the fast creation be prefered over the slow creation, especially when the displayed feats in the series are far more consistent with the latter rather than the former?
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-Because they want to rule human and make them become slave?
-Celestial realm and Demon world is a 2 seperated world, you can see it in the past of holy war.
 
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Tsotso said:
Why should the celestial and demon realms be assumed to be planets comparable in size to Earth?

All we know is that they are spaces disconnected from Britannia and therefore need portals to travel to.
But that doesn't say anything about the size of the realms.

We know Sunshine needs a solar body to function.
But where is it implied that it has to be comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth?

We know the celestial and demon realms have a light source.
But why would that mean the light comes from a star comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth?

The demon realm is seen to have two glowing/light reflecting objects orbiting it?
But why should those be assumed to be comparable in size to moons or stars when the demon realm itself isn't implied to be comparable in size to Earth? If the demon realm, its light source and the two objects are smaller than a planet, a star and two moons or stars respectively, the visual scale as seen from the ground in the new movie wouldn't be inconsistent. So that shot from the movie doesn't imply anything when it comes to size.


What I'm getting at is that the High 4-C ratings require multiple unsupported assumptions stacked on top of each other. Those are:
  • The celestial and demon realms are comparable in size to Earth.
  • Their light sources are stars comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth.
  • Sunshine requires a star comparable in size to the sun which illuminates Earth.
  • The two objects orbiting around the demon realm are moons or stars comparable in size to the moon or sun which orbit Earth.


There are also a few questions which aren't considered:
  • Why would the demon clan want to conquer Britannia (a small country) if they already have a planet and their ruler is capable of creating another one?
  • Why would the demon and goddess clans wage a war in Britannia if it's a land disconnected from their own realms? We know the two clans can travel directly to their realms i.e. Bellion and Meliodas invading the celestial realm and Mael invading the demon realm in a flashback. So why bother with Britannia?
  • What about the timeframes of the creation feats? Did the DK and SD create the realms with a snap of their fingers? Or did it take them millions of years to construct them? After all, time isn't a concern to these the two characters, as the Demon King spent over a billion and a half years chilling in purgatory. So then why should the fast creation be prefered over the slow creation, especially when the displayed feats in the series are far more consistent with the latter rather than the former?
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Honestly from everything here, the only relevant thing might be timeframe, but I believe it was answered above
 
Why does Arthur have High 4C striking strength?
and the justification is not that of striking strength but that of AP, he uses the powers of chaos in his sword to attack, how does that scale to his own SS
Large Star Class with powers (Is able to use the power of chaos in his sword and in his attacks)

Striking Strength is the amount of physical force an individual can deal out in a single strike.
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It relies more on “action” which is a combination of speed and mass. As such, striking strength requires a whole different classification system.
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it should be removed from his SS
 
Arthur's page is getting messy.. didn't we agreed that High 4-C is only via environmental destruction? It shouldn't scale to Striking Strength then

Also, why does he have AE?
 
Epsilon_R said:
Arthur's page is getting messy.. didn't we agreed that High 4-C is only via environmental destruction? It shouldn't scale to Striking Strength then

Also, why does he have AE?
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I think we agreed that he is High 4C via reality warping, which will still not scale to his SS, and yes you are right some nnt pages are getting messy.
Honestly the environmental Destruction and creation page needs to be fixed with more explanation and it should no be under Ap rather under abilities, if it wont scale to their AP, why is it under their AP?
 
is there anywhere else to put it? everyone knew the star tier wont scale to their AP/dc tho we agreed on that days ago
 
Zezu1995 said:
is there anywhere else to put it? everyone knew the star tier wont scale to their AP/dc tho we agreed on that days ago
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the moment it is in their SS section, it means they scale to it, i dont really know where they want to put it, but High 4C should be removed from their SS
 
Pain_to12 said:
the moment it is in their SS section, it means they scale to it, i dont really know where they want to put it, but High 4C should be removed from their SS
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Why?? Chaos should have It, is there any thing that contradicts High 4-C striking strenght?, No.

And Arthur can use the power of chaos for his attacks and use it on his sword.
 
So i should ask should I remove the AE and the SS High 4C since it was agreed upon already?
 
God900 said:
Why?? Chaos should have It, is there any thing that contradicts High 4-C striking strenght?, No.

And Arthur can use the power of chaos for his attacks and use it on his sword.
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the moment arthur is using it through a certain form of power and not his own physical strength, it is no longer striking strength and i should be asking you if there is anything that supports chaos own High 4C SS, did he damage any character with Hugh 4C durability with his punch without any power?
 
Authur has potential to solo naruto verse by speed equalized. I never thought this day would come.
 
Pain_to12 said:
the moment arthur is using it through a certain form of power and not his own physical strength, it is no longer striking strength and i should be asking you if there is anything that supports chaos own High 4C SS, did he damage any character with Hugh 4C durability with his punch without any power?
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High 4-C with Excalibur. That should work, for the SS section
 
Lormac_CC said:
High 4-C with Excalibur. That should work, for the SS section
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Nope,
Striking Strength is the amount of physical force an individual can deal out in a single strike.

So nah it wont work, the moment he is using a power classified as reality warping it is no longer striking strength so he wont scale

Please note that Striking Strength doesn't automatically scale from Attack Potency unless there are Feats suggesting otherwise. For example, if a character used their strongest energy blast to vaporize a city, it would only scale to their physical strength if they were able to harm opponents that can withstand the aforementioned energy blast, or vice-versa.
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so unless he harmed people that withstood high 4C attacks physically his ss wont scale
 
Pain_to12 said:
So i should ask should I remove the AE and the SS High 4C since it was agreed upon already?
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No, Arthur has It thanks to the power of Chaos in his attacks and swords, which works juts fine, and still count as Striking strenght.

And Chaos should still have AE and the SS
 
God900 said:
No, Arthur has It thanks to the power of Chaos in his attacks and swords, which works juts fine, and still count as Striking strenght.
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Please note that Striking Strength doesn't automatically scale from Attack Potency unless there are Feats suggesting otherwise. For example, if a character used their strongest energy blast to vaporize a city, it would only scale to their physical strength if they were able to harm opponents that can withstand the aforementioned energy blast, or vice-versa.
God900 said:
And Chaos should still have AE and the SS
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Yes no one is arguing this
 
Pain_to12 said:
Nope,
Striking Strength is the amount of physical force an individual can deal out in a single strike.

So nah it wont work, the moment he is using a power classified as reality warping it is no longer striking strength so he wont scale




so unless he harmed people that withstood high 4C attacks physically his ss wont scale
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Arthur can use the power of Chaos on his swords and attacks overall. So It still works, even if the power is not from him.
 
God900 said:
Arthur can use the power of Chaos on his swords and attacks overall. So It still works, even if the power is not from him.
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the fact that the power is not from him means he is not scaling to it with SS lmao, its not that hard.
you are scaling Arthur physicals from his Ap, why dont you give him Stellar lifting strength too?

like it was explained in the SS page, it must be something done from his own physicals not his AP using powers/hax
 
Pain_to12 said:
the fact that the power is not from him means he is not scaling to it with SS lmao, its not that hard.
you are scaling Arthur physicals from his Ap, why dont you give him Stellar lifting strength too?

like it was explained in the SS page, it must be something done from his own physicals not his AP using powers/hax
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Arthur can use Chaos Power on slashes, and hits, so It still count as striking strenght.
 
God900 said:
Arthur can use Chaos Power on slashes, and hits, so It still count as striking strenght.
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nope it does not, read this
vsbattles.fandom.com

Striking Strength

Striking Strength is the amount of physical force an individual can deal out in a single strike. In other words, it is the physical Attack Potency of an individual. It may or may not depend on Lifting Strength. Striking strength describes the power behind the character’s physical blows...
vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

SS is physical attack potency, the moment he uses Reality warping it is not SS anymore but AP
 
pain we already agreed they DONT SCALE to it, so its fine.. tho they should MAYBE put a text "large star due to creation but do not scale to stats"???
 
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