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Nami vs Lucy Heartfilia

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Both are 7-B (obviously)

Speed equalized

Both in character (I realized that Lucy would just use the Celestial Spirit King)

Battle takes place in a flat, infinite grassland and the combatants are one hundred meters apart

Lucy: 9-Graf Thorsdottir, Enryu The Red Tower, Captain Torch, KinkiestSins, Arceus0x, Gargoyle One, YungManzi, Demon Takumo 31, DragonEmperor23

Nami: 5-CinCameron20, ShrekAlmighty, Just a Random Butler, Bluetrekking, Calaca Vs

Who wins?
 
Lucy wins with Low Dif

Lucy has a numerical advantage of 4 vs. 1 since Lucy was able to summon three celestial spirits and use the Star Dress together), probably AP and Durability above Nami but for a very small amount (she faced Brandish and tanked her attacks even though was the same if suppressing yet Brandish is considered by Gray as stronger than Mard Geer in Etherious form), advantage of resistance (she can summon three celestial spirits), versatility (Gemini will copy Nami and her abilities and use her against the same, as for example his illusion creation, his whip will allow to tie Nami and thus make it stand still for a while while his spirits attack her immobilized, or use its rays to Lucy simply summon Virgo and use her Star Dress and the two will use the Diver and so will attack Nami from under the ground or use Star Dress and Sargitarius to play against Nami and etc), advantafe of experience (since their spirits are very old and skilled in combat like the Loki) and also the Uria Metria can be used against Nami while their spirits hold it to not to escape, since to Lucy is with bloodshed she probably does not will care about what will happen to their spirits or do not underestimate their resilience and thus end the struggle.

The only advantage of Nami that I can see is her Creation Illusion (which will be useful but it will not be difficult to overcome and Gemini can use her against herself) and her electricity case Lucy use Aquarius form.

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Very interesting reasonings.

Looking at 7-B, it's still post-Zeus Nami. Means she's got some back-up of her own. Zeus can manipulate the weather and lightning, as well as carry Nami through the air. In general, Nami has heat, air, and cold manipulations with her normal attacks. Nami can create illusions, and fire off electricity as well.

The way I see it, Zeus, due to having immaterial intangibility due to being a cloud/soul, makes it impossible for Lucy to have any reliable means for getting rid of him, or simply harming him.

Nami has an overall more reliable way of fighting in a defensive manner due to Zeus and mirages. While Lucy can summon several Celestial Spirits to assist her in combat, overall having a larger variety, she can only summon two at a time before suffering HEAVILY from the amount of magical power she uses. Nami has no such weakness with her Clima Tact and Zeus, as neither tax her body.

Disregarding Zeus and the Celestial Spirits, if Lucy and Nami went into a straight up one-on-one fight, Nami has the advantage with variety due to illusions, and control over various elements, the weather, range, etc.

Going with Nami simply because Zeus has intangibility, Nami can fly with Zeus, and has superior range.
 
CinCameron20 said:
Very interesting reasonings.
Looking at 7-B, it's still post-Zeus Nami. Means she's got some back-up of her own. Zeus can manipulate the weather and lightning, as well as carry Nami through the air. In general, Nami has heat, air, and cold manipulations with her normal attacks. Nami can create illusions, and fire off electricity as well.

The way I see it, Zeus, due to having immaterial intangibility due to being a cloud/soul, makes it impossible for Lucy to have any reliable means for getting rid of him, or simply harming him.

Nami has an overall more reliable way of fighting in a defensive manner due to Zeus and mirages. While Lucy can summon several Celestial Spirits to assist her in combat, overall having a larger variety, she can only summon two at a time before suffering HEAVILY from the amount of magical power she uses. Nami has no such weakness with her Clima Tact and Zeus, as neither tax her body.

Disregarding Zeus and the Celestial Spirits, if Lucy and Nami went into a straight up one-on-one fight, Nami has the advantage with variety due to illusions, and control over various elements, the weather, range, etc.

Going with Nami simply because Zeus has intangibility, Nami can fly with Zeus, and has superior range.
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Is not it better to wait for more chapters so we can see the real capabilities of Zeus with Nami since she is currently unknown with Zeus?
 
@Enryu - don't quote massive walls of text :eek:.

Zeus would be 6-B scaling to Big Mom utilizing him, but it's pretty obvious that his Power Level would probably scale with Nami's at this time. So he shouldn't be much stronger than Nami.

And if something comes up to prove it wrong, like Zeus having a High 7-A feat, then we can simply remove the fight due to it being a stomp.
 
@Cin

Well, the thread is not saying that this is version 7-B of Nami that uses Zeus since there are two 7-B keys for Nami, so this is version 7-B without Zeus.
 
Should not that be a stomp? Since Nami is 6-B with Zeus and Lucy does not have any decent Hax like the other characters in her verse, to go head-to-head with a 6-B?
 
@Cin

1 - Well I think these Nami techniques you quoted can be used against herself using Gemini to top them off since Nami must be a little weaker than Lucy and Gemini to use the illusion creation against herself, but they would certainly have significant effect on Lucy but her spirits would help her escape from the creation of illusion like the Virgo that can make holes for Lucy escape or Lucy use the Star Dress of Virgo to escort and dig to attack Nami along with Virgo without realizing that the two are on the floor.


2 - Well, but that does not stop Nami from getting rid of Lucy's blows and also Zeus can be sent away by Scorpion and Lucy to attack while Scorpion throws Zeus away or Zeus has his beams neutralized by Scorpion's sand and so Virgo do an underground attack while Loke uses his light to blind Nami and Zeus at the same time to have the chance to attack her and severely injure her along with her other three spirits.


3 - The mirages like I said can be difficult for Lucy if she were in 1 vs 1, but Scorpion can make a sandstorm and temporarily blind Nami and thus Lucy and Virgo make an underground attack and Sargitarius takes advantage of the blindness of Nami to Hit the arrows in Nami on the knees to hinder their movement, in the Arch of Tartarus Lucy tired she was able to summon three spirits and also Lucy will not get tired easily or fall, this Lucy has a great resistance since she once after another invoke spirits against Brandish and she did not seem to be tired in invoking them and as I said Gemini can use the skills of Nami against herself or Gemini copy Zeus and so do with: Nami and Zeus vs. Lucy, Virgo, Scorpion and Gemini (transformed as Zeus) and have the same utilities of Zeus as you quoted but with more number and versatility.


4 - Well, that's complicated but Nami or Lucy would have a chance to beat each other since Lucy has the power to make storms of sand like Scorpion in Scorpion form and so blind her while nami can use her mirages.


5 - Zeus can be copied by Gemini and Lucy use it for the same purposes as the original Zeus but with greater versatility

Going with Lucy Mid-Diff
 
"Gemini can only copy those who are comparable or weaker than Lucy herself", yeah I don't think Gemini is copying Zeus.
 
CinCameron20 said:
"Gemini can only copy those who are comparable or weaker than Lucy herself", yeah I don't think Gemini is copying Zeus.
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Well Zeus is one of the skills of Nami, since you said Zeus scales to whoever is utilizing his power. In this case, he'd be 7-B so Gemini can copy Zeus since Nami must be a little weaker than Lucy or the same level who is also a 7-B
 
Lucy's profile states "Low 7-B to 7-B", and she is scaling to characters who are evidently stronger than her, even by a casual standpoint.
 
CinCameron20 said:
Lucy's profile states "Low 7-B to 7-B", and she is scaling to characters who are evidently stronger than her, even by a casual standpoint.
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She is 7-B with her strongest spirits, 7-B with Star Dress and Low 7-B with her weaker spirits as she managed to fight and hurt Jacob next to Natsu with Star Dress of Loke and fight Brandish suppressed with Star Dress of Aquarius, Scorpion, Cancer and Taurus and Brandish which was said to be more stronger that Etherious Mard Geer by Gray, although Brandish was suppressing against Lucy but Lucy's individual feat, so that's why I'm saying that Lucy can with Gemini can copy Zeus.
 
Brandish was intentionally trying to lose, and was called out on it. She was trying to make it look like a struggle because she knew fully well she was being watched. She was going to let Lucy win.

I don't see any reason for Lucy to scale to Brandish, especially when the latter was throwing the fight from the very start.
 
CinCameron20 said:
Brandish was intentionally trying to lose, and was called out on it. She was trying to make it look like a struggle because she knew fully well she was being watched. She was going to let Lucy win.
I don't see any reason for Lucy to scale to Brandish, especially when the latter was throwing the fight from the very start.
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But in Lucy's profile, this version we're using in this thread, her key Low 7-B to 7-B is justified like this: "Small City level (Her weaker spirits should be comparable to Max Alors) to City level (Capable of copying Marin's Magic. Fought against Jacob and damaged him somewhat, albeit with Natsu's aid. Fought with Brandish while she was holding back. Comparable to Elfman and Lisanna) "

And I know that Lucy can not be scaled to Brandish, since the latter did not fight seriously, but it does not change the fact that she managed to damage Jacob (7-B +) despite having Natsu's help and resisting some attacks from Brandish is suppressing and also Lucy was able to copy Marin's Magic indicating that she must be stronger or comparable and it looks that Marin managed to damage Natsu and Gray without magic that should be a bit stronger than Nami even without magic.
 
i love OP and FT so i am not fanboying. Lucy wins becuse she can summon more fighters and so it would be 2v2/3/4. second reason is that gemeni can turn into zeus as well or turn into nami and confuse zeus so it is a win no matter what.
 
Since this is Bloodlusted, wouldn't Lucy be allowed or at least consider summoning the Celestial Spirit King.
 
Gemini's transformation isn't useful. It can't copy Nami's abilities even if it copy SCT. I don't remember that Gemini'd copy the enemy's mind when transformed (actually I think it's like a cosplayer) and SCT only works so well because Nami's weather knowledge.

Transforming into Zeus is also hard. Zeus's natural potential relies on Big Mom's soul. Someone who's leagues above Lucy. Nami can only unleash that power in smallers degrees but that doesn't change the fact that Zeus is naturally strongest Nami weapon.

It's like when you use a weapon too heavy to casually lift. Yeah, you have a bad time but can still punch with a little more effort. That doesn't change the weight of the weapon itself.

Wanna point out that Nami has experience dealing with large numbers too. Sure, they aren't so powerful like her but the AoE of her attacks is really helpful. On top of that she has fighted and won battles with people leagues above her (even barely knowing the CT functions). So the edge in intelligence is going to Nami.

Nami's range is also higher and IDK about AP and Dura. Nami doesn't have a calc to prove Zeus's lightning but I don't remember any of Lucy's feats that massive. Nami also has flight and mirage clones advantages to spam range with the thunderbolts. Even if Lucy can nullify it with Scorpio she'll had a hard time reaching Nami (who is a range fighter with higher range and flight). Nami won't harm Lucy easily if the AP and Dura goes to the latter but she only needs to outlast her. That's hard too but not impossible considering Nami doesn't spend effort at all.

Nami Mid to High Diff.
 
Not voting but Gemini can copy abilities as well shown with Gray, Ichiya, and Lucy herself to use Urano Metria one time
 
And the intellect? Because Clima Tact is Nami's weapon. Nobody can replicate the effects at that level without Nami's weather knowledge.
 
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