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I'm just saying how it works. You need a reason for AP to scale to durability beyond "His AP and durability are comparable in other keys."
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My Hero Academia - Scaling Revisions [One for All AP Edition]
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The cube is right here, before it goes all cartoony.
Then it does this, this makes no sense unless we're saying he moved the cube backwards.
Then it does this, this makes no sense unless we're saying he moved the cube backwards.
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I remember something about "Durability scaled from AP if there are no contradictions".
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That's the other way around from what I was discussing.
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But it’s the same power? That’s not about keys or anything, it’s how his power works, it increases his stats proportionately, as shown with how he can harm those that can harm him. He can even harm himself, as seen when Gentle bounced back an air blast.
What is your reasoning for 45% to be different now? When all other percentages haven’t been? Wouldn’t that be a ridiculous inconsistency?
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45% Izuku can stop Nagant's bullet with a kick, which posses enough power to injure him and even shatter one of the Mid-Gauntlets.
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"High 7-A: Large Mountain level
Characters who can destroy a large mountain, or those who can easily harm characters with large mountain level durability."
Sorry, am I missing something?
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After looking over this frame for a bit, it takes 4 or so frames for it to cover the 716.3 meters I've calculated. The main problem is that I have to recalculate the distance now.
Can you give me some time to do that?
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Earthyboy, how are you going frame by frame? What software are you using, I'd like to try it out for myself.
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45% Deku broke Shigaraki's Rivet Stab which harmed Endeavor. That's the current justification for 45%
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Yes, you misinterpreted my post.
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Izuku can't increase his dura without increasing his AP by the same amount.
It's literally not possible for his dura to be higher than his AP, since 5% Izuku can harm people who can injure him. The same has to be true for 45%, just going up in percentages wouldn't change how his Quirk works on a fundamental level.
Think of it like this, Kaio Ken times 10 Goku takes hits from someone who is 1000. He isn't given the chance to hurt them, but he takes multiple hits so his dura scales. Goku's Kaio Ken increases his stats proportionally. So we know Base Goku's dura is 100, since he's 10x weaker than his KK.
Base Goku's AP is shown to be capable of harming those who are equal to him in durability, which means his AP is 100. That means KKX10 Goku's AP is 1000 as well.
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Youtube actually. If you pause the video and hit press either of these buttons (< >), you can advance to the next frame.
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Oh, oh I see.
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Well, I'll wait for you to finish the recalc first.
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One For All is literally just an increase to his base body. The amount he increases by is proportional. If his AP is up, his dura is up. We see that with his lower percentages.
Why on earth would 45% be the only percentage that doesn’t have AP comparable to its durability.
Why on earth would 45% be the only percentage that doesn’t have AP comparable to its durability.
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I’m not arguing I was just trying to clarify TLDR
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Why do you need several methods, just measure the distance the cube traveled in. This is the frame right before it starts moving, use the cube as your measuring stick.
And figure out how long it takes to travel a certain distance. I don't see why it requires several methods, it's really simple.
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But the problem is that in a few frames after, it covers an unspecified distance. That is the distance I'm trying to measure here.
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And you can measure the distance it travels by using that first frame, what is the issue here?
Edit: Unless you mean the scene that comes later, are you trying to use angular size?
Edit: Unless you mean the scene that comes later, are you trying to use angular size?
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But it also covers an unspecified distance in the few frames after. It travels this distance in about 4 frames. Whereas this takes over a dozen if I recall.
Essentially, there are two completely different ways to measure the distance here, and I have to do both methods.
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I literally have no idea what you're saying, but I'll just shut up now and wait for the calc.
I'll check back in a few hours.
I'll check back in a few hours.
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I tried to calculate using 16 frames and wow, the result is almost ~Low 7-B baseline
This is really scary
This is really scary
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huh?
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The double smash
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Going from 1.8 gigatons to slightly less than 1 megaton is a drastic difference wow
Would that make everyone High 7-C+ instead?
Would that make everyone High 7-C+ instead?
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Large Town Level moment.
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What did he do to that calc to inflate the value so much lol
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Seems like a much more reasonable result.
As in the tier disparity won't be so extreme now between the characters.
As in the tier disparity won't be so extreme now between the characters.
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I don't wanna know honestly.
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I'm pretty sure that would still exist.
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It honestly makes much more sense to me yeah.
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Seems about right let’s see what earthy boy gets when he fixes it tho.
@LIFE_OF_KING what was the value you got? And are you planning on blogging it or was it just to see
@LIFE_OF_KING what was the value you got? And are you planning on blogging it or was it just to see
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Honestly, 7-C to High 7-C for God-Tiers seems much more consistent. Urban characters having the potency to destroy a small country with one kick is really strange (Yeah yeah, I know. Incredulity. It's just a opinion, not a argument)
~4.7e+15 Joules. Maybe I will create a blog, but I don't know. The timeframe is still a discussion
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I fully agree and it honestly would be a different point if there was any feats like this in the manga. Just iffy that the best feat come from “canon” movies
thanks
