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It’s been a long while since One for All has been upgraded in attack potency. It has also been a long time since it was any higher than City level, at least in Two Heroes. After going through some fact checks, and running some calculations on various amounts of feats within the series, I have come to the conclusion that we need a revision.
Not only that, it doesn’t really get the cube’s size correct, at all. I believe my version of the feat is far more accurate.
This is wrong for various reasons. Logically, a 100% Smash would be far weaker than Full Cowling at 100% due to Deku only concentrating One for All into his arm.
When you throw a punch, you don’t just use only your arm. People who are experts at fighting always utilize their entire body when throwing a punch or a jab. But the reason punches even function, to begin with, and deal damage is because of the boxer accelerating the mass of their fist to produce force. That’s just basic physics. So when a boxer utilizes more of his body, there’s greater acceleration, therefore more force.
In Deku’s CASE, the increase when using his entire body to throw a punch would be tens of times greater. Due to the fact that Full Cowling at 100% allows him to accelerate his body at insane speeds, which would add to the already ridiculous amount of force he can generate with just his arm alone.
But the thing is, there’s evidence within the series suggesting Deku would naturally become stronger than All Might the more he develops One for All. When Deku confronts All Might about not being able to regulate One for All, All Might makes a demonstration of how the passing of One for All works.
Whereat first, the new wielder torch is incomparable to its predecessors, but in time will grow to be even stronger. Just to note, All Might is specifically referring to how the transferal of One for All works here. He’s not just talking about how Izuku can’t handle 100% of the power.
Not only that, there are further implications that he’s referring to the strength of One for All here.
Even if I were generous, and said that he’s referring to how he won’t be able to use One for All anymore, that flame still represents how strong he is. Since those are the last embers of One for All, and he’s getting weaker every time he uses said flames.
His time limit also has shown a clear relationship to his power decreasing, as shown here.
So, by extension, I think his flame should refer to his power/strength with One for All as well. Even ignoring this, Wolfram was able to partially hold Weakened All Might back with some random strength enhancement quirk that All for One found. This was when All Might pushed past his limits with One for All too. This would also support Deku and Bakugou generating Gigatons worth of TNT. As the increase could just be explainable due to the way One for All grows stronger for Deku.
All of the evidence I’m presenting can’t be purely coincidental. Deku has showcased that One for All is capable of getting stronger to the point he outclasses Wounded and Weakened All Might. If the wiki accepts the students getting thousands of times stronger in the course of a month, surely it’d be fine to accept One for All’s maxed output getting nearly two hundred times stronger within the course of several months. Otherwise? The previous revision on the students would be hypocrisy in its truest form.
What I’m trying to say here is that it wouldn’t be an outlier for Deku to be Island level during Heroes Rising, despite being City level several months before.
That is all I will say. Everyone’s free to discuss this in the comments below.
Weakened All Might/Beginning of U.A Deku
Weakened All Might is actually pretty comparable to wounded All Might in power, thanks to this calculation. Even disregarding his first feat in chapter one of the manga, their attack potency should still be buffed to City level here. Therefir’s method of calculating the Double Detroit Smash seems to be outdated, as it doesn’t measure the scene frame by frame, but rather second by second.Not only that, it doesn’t really get the cube’s size correct, at all. I believe my version of the feat is far more accurate.
Full Cowling 100% Revisions
Originally, Full Cowling 100% were listed as “stronger” than Deku’s regular 100%. Although, this has been removed due to the fact that there’s no evidence which indicates this.This is wrong for various reasons. Logically, a 100% Smash would be far weaker than Full Cowling at 100% due to Deku only concentrating One for All into his arm.
When you throw a punch, you don’t just use only your arm. People who are experts at fighting always utilize their entire body when throwing a punch or a jab. But the reason punches even function, to begin with, and deal damage is because of the boxer accelerating the mass of their fist to produce force. That’s just basic physics. So when a boxer utilizes more of his body, there’s greater acceleration, therefore more force.
In Deku’s CASE, the increase when using his entire body to throw a punch would be tens of times greater. Due to the fact that Full Cowling at 100% allows him to accelerate his body at insane speeds, which would add to the already ridiculous amount of force he can generate with just his arm alone.
Post Joint Training Arc Deku
In Heroes Rising, Deku performs a feat with the help of Bakugou, generating Gigatons of TNT to completely disperse Nine’s storm. While one could argue that these results happened because of the fact that Deku is using Full Cowling 100%, I bet there are a few people who wouldn’t accept the idea that Deku’s 100% can get nearly two hundred times stronger through Full Cowling 100%, just through accelerating his body and punching with One for All at 100%.But the thing is, there’s evidence within the series suggesting Deku would naturally become stronger than All Might the more he develops One for All. When Deku confronts All Might about not being able to regulate One for All, All Might makes a demonstration of how the passing of One for All works.
Whereat first, the new wielder torch is incomparable to its predecessors, but in time will grow to be even stronger. Just to note, All Might is specifically referring to how the transferal of One for All works here. He’s not just talking about how Izuku can’t handle 100% of the power.
Not only that, there are further implications that he’s referring to the strength of One for All here.
Even if I were generous, and said that he’s referring to how he won’t be able to use One for All anymore, that flame still represents how strong he is. Since those are the last embers of One for All, and he’s getting weaker every time he uses said flames.
His time limit also has shown a clear relationship to his power decreasing, as shown here.
So, by extension, I think his flame should refer to his power/strength with One for All as well. Even ignoring this, Wolfram was able to partially hold Weakened All Might back with some random strength enhancement quirk that All for One found. This was when All Might pushed past his limits with One for All too. This would also support Deku and Bakugou generating Gigatons worth of TNT. As the increase could just be explainable due to the way One for All grows stronger for Deku.
All of the evidence I’m presenting can’t be purely coincidental. Deku has showcased that One for All is capable of getting stronger to the point he outclasses Wounded and Weakened All Might. If the wiki accepts the students getting thousands of times stronger in the course of a month, surely it’d be fine to accept One for All’s maxed output getting nearly two hundred times stronger within the course of several months. Otherwise? The previous revision on the students would be hypocrisy in its truest form.
What I’m trying to say here is that it wouldn’t be an outlier for Deku to be Island level during Heroes Rising, despite being City level several months before.
What I’m proposing here
With all of my reasonings being conclude here, I think it’s time I summarize the revisions I proposed here.- Pre-transferal All Might should be at least over 31 Megatons into 7-B, along with anyone who scales. Post-transferal or extremely weakened All Might should be around 31 Megatons into 7-B as well. Along with the Beginning of U.A Deku up to Joint Training arc, along with anyone who scales.
- Deku’s 30% of One for All should be at least 31 Megatons into 7-B due to withstanding a hit from Shigaraki. One for All’s AP usually equals or is comparable to its durability, so 30% of One for All’s AP should scale. 45%, if possible should scale slightly above 30%. This applies to both AP and Dura.
- Full Cowling 100% should be 6-C depending on if the Heroes Rising calculation did KE the correct way, along with One for All Bakugou, since he scales.
- War Arc Deku’s 100% should also be listed as, "Stronger than Before" than his previous 100%, as he is portrayed as being way stronger than 75% Shigaraki.
- Faux 100% would also be 7-B since it’s comparable to Deku’s 100%.
Conclusion
With that being said, I suggest everyone should be respectful and civil to each other. There is no need to argue violently and aggressively. Most of us are mature enough to behave properly here. Additionally, I apologize if this CRT is missing any scans, or has any grammatical errors. As I likely didn't notice any or forgot to fix them. If there are inconsistencies in the post? I'll likely fix them if they're pointed out.That is all I will say. Everyone’s free to discuss this in the comments below.
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