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My Hero Academia Revisions
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"How many times Deku 100% hit Monster Chisaki before that."
You mean once?
Deku repeatedly punched Chisaki over and over just to make sure he was unconscious. He says that in the narration.
"I can take advantage of that gap... and not give you the chance to recover again!"
Chisaki couldn't do jack against 100% Deku.
You mean once?
Deku repeatedly punched Chisaki over and over just to make sure he was unconscious. He says that in the narration.
"I can take advantage of that gap... and not give you the chance to recover again!"
Chisaki couldn't do jack against 100% Deku.
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He was conscious
The problem that I have with this if that we had to threat every time Deku used 100% as an outlier, except the time he clashed with Todoroki, that doesn't make any sense.
The problem that I have with this if that we had to threat every time Deku used 100% as an outlier, except the time he clashed with Todoroki, that doesn't make any sense.
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@Therefir
Last I recall Deku only used 100% against Muscular before the doctors told him that his arms would be paralyzed if he kept using 100% recklessly, hence his switch to Shoot Style. So no, not really an outlier since only Muscular was able to overpower his unbroken arm's 100% and only by pushing past his limits to a dangerous extent was Deku able to beat him.
I still say that Chisaki tanking 100% is an outlier given that Mirio was beating the everloving crap out of him despite lacking a physical enhancement Quirk like Aizawa.
Last I recall Deku only used 100% against Muscular before the doctors told him that his arms would be paralyzed if he kept using 100% recklessly, hence his switch to Shoot Style. So no, not really an outlier since only Muscular was able to overpower his unbroken arm's 100% and only by pushing past his limits to a dangerous extent was Deku able to beat him.
I still say that Chisaki tanking 100% is an outlier given that Mirio was beating the everloving crap out of him despite lacking a physical enhancement Quirk like Aizawa.
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Anyways, Deku's 100% key was always useless, and now even more with the downgrades, I still don't know why you all want 8-A Deku, no one scale and it can be used in battles.
Monster Chisaki should be High 8-C with Aiden's calc.
Monster Chisaki should be High 8-C with Aiden's calc.
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@Therefir
Again, just because it's useless in a versus debate does not mean that it's not going on a profile.
That's fine if Chisaki is going to be High 8-C. 100% should still be 8-A via scaling due to Deku managing to punch All Might and turn his head aside, being more powerful than Bakugou wiping out an entire street, and should at least be comparable to Todoroki's full power as the strongest Quirik in the series.
Again, just because it's useless in a versus debate does not mean that it's not going on a profile.
That's fine if Chisaki is going to be High 8-C. 100% should still be 8-A via scaling due to Deku managing to punch All Might and turn his head aside, being more powerful than Bakugou wiping out an entire street, and should at least be comparable to Todoroki's full power as the strongest Quirik in the series.
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Wasn't the 8-A rating debunked or something?
I wouldn't use Deku pushing All Might away as justification. A character can push another, but it doesn't mean they harmed them.
Ben 10 7-A's have staggered High 5-A characters. But they don't scale.
I wouldn't use Deku pushing All Might away as justification. A character can push another, but it doesn't mean they harmed them.
Ben 10 7-A's have staggered High 5-A characters. But they don't scale.
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@Therefir
Still doesn't change the scaling and it's not counterintuitive because you say so.
I know that, but the fact that Deku can even turn All Might's head aside at all and make him loosen his grip on Bakugou means that the so-called gap you're talking about isn't as wide as you think it is.
Still doesn't change the scaling and it's not counterintuitive because you say so.
I know that, but the fact that Deku can even turn All Might's head aside at all and make him loosen his grip on Bakugou means that the so-called gap you're talking about isn't as wide as you think it is.
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@Versus
No one of the calc post rejected it, so no. The users here were claiming it was an outlier because it doesn't match their proposed scaling even though it's explained that One for All and Todoroki are outliers.
Still doesn't change the fact that One for All is ridiculously strong relative to every other Quirk in the series.
No one of the calc post rejected it, so no. The users here were claiming it was an outlier because it doesn't match their proposed scaling even though it's explained that One for All and Todoroki are outliers.
Still doesn't change the fact that One for All is ridiculously strong relative to every other Quirk in the series.
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Alright, just making sure. Though I agree with you on the fact that One For All is the strongest in the series. Hell, it's been repeatedly established as being so.
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So he used a gun to shoot a villain. That tells us nothing really about his speed, durability, lifting strength or striking strength. The only known thing is that he has Homing Attacks, and his gun shoots bullets capable of harming Tomura.
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That doesn't require a great deal of speed on his part, does it? Just the speed of his bullets.
Why would taking part in the final exam make him equally as strong Aizawa? All Might took part in it too, yet all of the other teachers are significantly weaker than him.
Why would taking part in the final exam make him equally as strong Aizawa? All Might took part in it too, yet all of the other teachers are significantly weaker than him.
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Does muscular really require a 'without muscle augmentation' key?
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It's explained that All Might doesn't always use 100% wich make the "push back AM" argument for 8A midoria kinda moot
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@Repp
I just lost composure because of your vague argument and reasoning.
"Shouto being an outliet" and "OFA is the strongest" are two things that with 8-A are nonsense, but with High 8-C still work (Shouto and Deku's OFA would above both classmates and most heroes)
8-A is an outlier when most students and heroes are just 9-A to 8-C, and the strongest are Low 7-C
And if it is an outlier for Muscular, why not for Shouto and Deku? I mean, if something, Muscular would make more sense
I just lost composure because of your vague argument and reasoning.
"Shouto being an outliet" and "OFA is the strongest" are two things that with 8-A are nonsense, but with High 8-C still work (Shouto and Deku's OFA would above both classmates and most heroes)
8-A is an outlier when most students and heroes are just 9-A to 8-C, and the strongest are Low 7-C
And if it is an outlier for Muscular, why not for Shouto and Deku? I mean, if something, Muscular would make more sense
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Aiden, try to understand that this:
"8-A is an outlier when most students and heroes are just 9-A to 8-C, and the strongest are Low 7-C"
This doesn't make sense. It is not a valid argument.
Characters which are explicitly more powerful than the norm are allowed to be more powerful than the norm. Don't you remember numerous pro heroes being blown away by how powerful Deku and Todoroki were?
Outliers aren't outliers when they're acknowledged in the story and there is a reason for them to be so powerful.
"8-A is an outlier when most students and heroes are just 9-A to 8-C, and the strongest are Low 7-C"
This doesn't make sense. It is not a valid argument.
Characters which are explicitly more powerful than the norm are allowed to be more powerful than the norm. Don't you remember numerous pro heroes being blown away by how powerful Deku and Todoroki were?
Outliers aren't outliers when they're acknowledged in the story and there is a reason for them to be so powerful.
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I didn't say he needed to be 8-A to impress everyone. But there's no denying that someone that is 8-A would be impressive.Therefir said:
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@Therefir
Did you not read the calc I posted? Todoroki's maximum ice power was calced at 8-A.
There's no reason why his maximum firepower would be weaker than his maximum ice power given that they needed to cancel each other out by necessity to maintain Todoroki's body temperature.
I don't see what's so inconsistent about scaling One for All to Todoroki's fire when they were the only two Quirks in the entire tournament to make Midnight and Cementoss panic enough to intervene.
Did you not read the calc I posted? Todoroki's maximum ice power was calced at 8-A.
There's no reason why his maximum firepower would be weaker than his maximum ice power given that they needed to cancel each other out by necessity to maintain Todoroki's body temperature.
I don't see what's so inconsistent about scaling One for All to Todoroki's fire when they were the only two Quirks in the entire tournament to make Midnight and Cementoss panic enough to intervene.
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High 8-C clash would panic 9-A/8-Cs
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@Aiden
So would an 8-A feat.
One for All and Half-Ice-Half-Fire are explicitly top tier Quirks head and shoulders above literally everything else in the class.
I don't see why it's so hard to accept this.
Having more feats at the lower end of the scale does not invalidate being scaled to higher feats.
So would an 8-A feat.
One for All and Half-Ice-Half-Fire are explicitly top tier Quirks head and shoulders above literally everything else in the class.
I don't see why it's so hard to accept this.
Having more feats at the lower end of the scale does not invalidate being scaled to higher feats.
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