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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

So assuming they do make a sequel series later down the road and they come up with some way that Deku gets One For All back, even if it's for a brief period, how would y'all feel? Would it depend on how they do it?
 
IcyFrost12 said:
It wouldn't be the same, I dobut there'd be some way for OFA to even come back, not that makes sense anyway, unless Eri's rewind is really that good. The quirk was destroyed, but I wouldn't be against it coming back, as long as it made sense. Maybe have it be reborn from Deku's strong will or something.
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Or maybe Rewind turns back Deku to his 17 year old self.
 
I always thought OFA could come back through the stockpile vestige. I know Hori basically fused the stockpile vestige into Yoichi so I guess that original consciousness was not preserved but he could always bring that up as a plot point.

As for where that vestige has been all this time, there is usually that door that appears in Deku's consciousness (not the door in the vestige realm) but the other door that basically has many locks on it. It used to represent how much power he had yet to unlock. And the last time we saw of it, it was not fully open yet.

Hori could also have it that Shigaraki did pass on many quirks to Deku during the first bump but they are lying dormant/inactive either cause the quirks were too damaged or that they would damage Deku's body if they were active. Anyway, we never actually saw Shigaraki's quirk vestiges passing on (apart from Shigaraki himself) unlike what we saw with Hawks and the other vestiges within the original AFO.

Anyway, none of these plot points have anything to do with actually bringing back OFA in general cause we know that's pretty much NOT happening.

But if Hori really did want to do it, he could use these 2 angles without it seeming like an asspull.
 
Yk, an interesting question popped up into my mind:

If Prime All Might had all the six other quirks like Prime Deku did, who do y’all think would win between them? 🤔
 
Oreo166 said:
Yk, an interesting question popped up into my mind:

If Prime All Might had all the six other quirks like Prime Deku did, who do y’all think would win between them? 🤔
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Deku is absolutely boxing All Might's ass up. Not only did he already dog walk a dude who's equal to Prime All Might in strength and greater than him in durability, he's also the more skilled fighter between them since Prime All Might's fighting style is "Bull rush through every attack and get in to punch you".
 
RidleyX said:
So did Jiro intercept AFO Radio Waves?
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It wasn't an Air Cannon in manga but yeah though it's weird. My headcanon is that Jiro used her Quirk to create a shockwave/air force attack (because you can't exactly use sound waves as a barrier)
 
Fiction can do whatever it wants, using sound as a barrier isn't anymore weird than using fire as a barrier.

As the attack name implies, Jiro made a wall of sound, which is produced from her heartbeat.

The anime shows the Air Cannon impact her wall of sound and eventually ends up going around the wall, leaving Hawks unharmed.
 
Gitagon said:
The anime isn't really canon. It even cut out Hard Fan Flame and and changed the appearance of Air Canon starting from season 6 to look like Nine's Air Wall. I'll never understand this decision. It's like someone on the team watched Heroes Rising and thought they were the same quirk.
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How on earth would the anime not be canon when it's a direct adaptation?
 
Hey wait a minute. If AFO had access to Overhaul's quirk, why didn't he just take that, Rebuilt his body to prime self and enhance it via copying the surgery with just Overhaul ?

Sure it won't bring back the quirks that he lost since this is just the body being replaced, but even just with his current loadout his Prime Body would solo every person in the world. Including Star and Stripes since AFO's real name remains a mystery till this date (well he didn't have a name since no parents but you get it)

The whole convoluted Shigaraki's body plan makes no sense. Yes he wants his brother back and can still groom Shigaraki into taking OFA back for him, but no reason to give up his original body.
 
57Dev said:
Hey wait a minute. If AFO had access to Overhaul's quirk, why didn't he just take that, Rebuilt his body to prime self and enhance it via copying the surgery with just Overhaul ?
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Because Overhaul cannot do that, simple. It's never repaired damage to that extent, it also cannot create matter from nothing either.

The sheer fact he doesn't use it proves that it cannot perform such a feat. Overhaul isn't a good as people seem to think it is.

Edit: Before someone says anything. Overhaul can blow people up and put them back together because that's the function of the Quirk. Blowing up Rappa's entire upper body and putting it back together is something Overhaul can do because the blow up is part of the power set as it can reverse/modify that material right after.

But if you destroyed Rappa's entire upper torso it'd be unable to repair it, because the Quirks can only "repair" by destroying and putting them back together differently.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Because Overhaul cannot do that, simple. It's never repaired damage to that extent, it also cannot create matter from nothing either.
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He destroyed and regenerated his arm back to fully functionating. He also turned that big guy into Flesh Pudding, made a armor out of him and then put him back together alive. He also put his pops into Comatose without any physical damage to the brain showing how precise his control is.

The matter is there for afo, he only needs to rearrange it back to how it was pre all might. Something he can easily do with help from Ujiko.

So lets count.

  • He has fixed much worse.
  • Overhaul has no Idea about how modification surgery works.
TheRustyOne said:
The sheer fact he doesn't use it proves that it cannot perform such a feat. Overhaul isn't a good as people seem to think it is.
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- That's called a plot hole.

- AFO only needs Ujiko to have a nomu programmed in way to destroy and reassemble him back to prime.
 
57Dev said:
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That's nowhere close to the damage AFO received. You clearly don't understand how damage works. In all of those cases all of the material was still there. Fusing with that guy was meant to kill Nemoto, Chisaki straight up said he needed to die for his sake before doing it. Eri was the one who unfused them, not Chisaki.

Which still doesn't compare to the above, like at all.

First off, the doctor had to quickly get AFO after that point and we have no idea how long it took to revive him. Overhaul cannot be used until AFO is conscious and can steal the Quirk or any duplicate they may have on hand. Overhaul repairs by destroying and putting it back together, it doesn't magically create matter out of nothing.

Also, your claim of the boss coma is incorrect. We have no idea what Overhaul did to him to make him comatose, even if it was true it has no relevance to healing your brain after it got punched into liquid.

For comparison, this is no different than if someone complained about why Tomura cannot heal a destroyed brain with Super Regeneration.

It's not a plot hole. There's no information that says Overhaul could've helped AFO, it's never been shown to repair damage to this extent. Period.

Also, Nomu cannot use Quirks that require thought. Even Johnny the Warping Nomu needed external devices connected to the brain for the Doctor to warp people. Only a High-End would have enough intelligence to activate Overhaul, but even then I imagine only the doctor would have the knowledge needed to use it correctly.

But the Doctor can't handle multiple Quirks, especially with Life Force lowering his own physical ability. And removing his Quirk would cause him to age rapidly.

Also, Overhaul likely upgraded massively after Chisaki trained with it for decades. Note that Overhaul's ability was only know to destroy and restore. Making new things by restoring the material in a different manner shocked Mirio. It's clear they didn't know he could do something like that.
 
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IcyFrost12 said:
How on earth would the anime not be canon when it's a direct adaptation?
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Did you just read my comment and somehow missed what I said. How the hell is the anime a "direct adaptation" when it changes things that are in the manga? Read my comment again where I specify that during AFO vs Endeavor the anime cuts out AFO using a fire quirk, Hard Fan Flame, to block Endeavor's flames. In the anime AFO just uses the goo quirk for defense throughout and the fire quirk he activated in one of his fingers goes completely unused.

The point in the manga was AFO using 5 quirks from each of his fingers to best Endeavor. Meanwhile in the anime he only uses 4 of them with the fire quirk being nowhere to be seen despite the anime still showing AFO activate it.

I also pointed out how Air Canon got altered from season 6 onwards which was clearly by someone on the production team influenced by Heroes Rising. Now they are treating Air Canon as if it is the same as NIne's Air Wall when those are two completely different quirks. Nine's quirk was stolen from some random hero after he escaped.

There is also the fact that this entire discussion was about "Jirou blocking radio waves" when that never happens in the manga. In the manga she just blocks AFO's two-handed Air Canon. So whatever the anime did was not canon.
 
57Dev said:
Hey wait a minute. If AFO had access to Overhaul's quirk, why didn't he just take that, Rebuilt his body to prime self and enhance it via copying the surgery with just Overhaul ?

Sure it won't bring back the quirks that he lost since this is just the body being replaced, but even just with his current loadout his Prime Body would solo every person in the world. Including Star and Stripes since AFO's real name remains a mystery till this date (well he didn't have a name since no parents but you get it)

The whole convoluted Shigaraki's body plan makes no sense. Yes he wants his brother back and can still groom Shigaraki into taking OFA back for him, but no reason to give up his original body.
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He would have to destroy himself first before rebuilding himself. Specifically, he would have to disintegrate his head. I doubt that's something easy to pull off especially with regards to the head. And unlike Overhaul, AFO's sense of self-preservation was up there. He is not destroying his own head after All Might already mushed it with vague hopes that he will somehow maintain his consciousness long enough without a brain to rebuild himself.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
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Never said that it should be immediately after his head got blown up. He has 5 years after that and was active for that time as we see in Vigilanties. His brain is working just fine thanks to Ujiko, only needs eyes and new lungs.

It can't create matter, but it can sure as hell fuse it. So grab some poor chump and fuse his respiratory system and eyes with himself. We see overhaul do this and even create mouth on his hand showing that he can indeed create organs in the matter he fuses.

Even before his Injury it makes no sense to not take Overhaul. It fixes the problem of his body reaching it's limits as he can reassemble himself. One shot any enemy and pretty much combo it with every other quirk.

It repaired back Rappa from blood splatters so wrong there too.
 
Gitagon said:
He would have to destroy himself first before rebuilding himself. Specifically, he would have to disintegrate his head. I doubt that's something easy to pull off especially with regards to the head. And unlike Overhaul, AFO's sense of self-preservation was up there. He is not destroying his own head after All Might already mushed it with vague hopes that he will somehow maintain his consciousness long enough without a brain to rebuild himself.
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He doesn't need too. His brain was always working fine, his lungs aren't. He only needs to fix his body and face.
 
Saw a clip of the Dark Might fight and, if what the Wiki says about his Quirk "seemingly [increasing] his speed and strength" is correct, then, in its entirety, his Quirks functions similarly to the Strength Force from Flash mythos; his physical abilities are naturally enhanced, and he can generate constructs like spears, giant fists, or barriers and shields out of a golden energy he creates from gold coins? Said constructs can also embed themselves within the ground or within rock formations and then create stone pillars out of the earth that Dark Might can control.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Saw a clip of the Dark Might fight and, if what the Wiki says about his Quirk "seemingly [increasing] his speed and strength" is correct, then, in its entirety, his Quirks functions similarly to the Strength Force from Flash mythos; his physical abilities are naturally enhanced, and he can generate constructs like spears, giant fists, or barriers and shields out of a golden energy he creates from gold coins? Said constructs can also embed themselves within the ground or within rock formations and then create stone pillars out of the earth that Dark Might can control.
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From what I've heard. His Quirk is some kind of Creation, he can make what he desires. It's different from Momo's as he's using it to put an illusion over himself to look like All Might. Momo isn't capable of doing something like that, as her creations are physical constructs that are made from her own body.

He seems to bring things into existence from nothing, though maybe that's only because he's being boosted.

Uncertain how to fully describe it until I see the movie with good translation.

Note: If anyone is curious, we won't be able to add or do anything from the movie until it becomes available at home. Even if cam footage came out we aren't going off of that and we need some way of being able to verify the information beyond word of mouth or shaky footage. So don't expect anything until next year.
 
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