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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Well since I'm the one that asked the question originally ig I should give my answer too.

I scale MHA (or more correctly Deku and Shigaraki) at at least Continental to Multi-Continental

And at least ftl to ftl+ speed.

That's like baseline, I wouldn't go lower than that

At a midball I would scale MHA at Multi-Continental to Moon level

With mftl to mftl+ speed

And a highball at Small-Planetary to Planetary

With mftl+ speed

Of course this is a highball so it's not where I would normally scale MHA. I normally scale them at Multi-Continental to Moon level with mftl+ speed. But I don't see it as wrong to scale them there.

And of course this is for the God tiers Deku and Shigaraki specifically.
 
ShigarakiShimura said:
Well since I'm the one that asked the question originally ig I should give my answer too.

I scale MHA (or more correctly Deku and Shigaraki) at at least Continental to Multi-Continental

And at least ftl to ftl+ speed.

That's like baseline, I wouldn't go lower than that

At a midball I would scale MHA at Multi-Continental to Moon level

With mftl to mftl+ speed

And a highball at Small-Planetary to Planetary

With mftl+ speed

Of course this is a highball so it's not where I would normally scale MHA. I normally scale them at Multi-Continental to Moon level with mftl+ speed. But I don't see it as wrong to scale them there.

And of course this is for the God tiers Deku and Shigaraki specifically.
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I know that sounds ridiculous but it's just how I scale them personally. I don't feel like ignoring all the light attacks, and the lasers. MHA definitely seems to have more light/laser dodging/reaction feats than series like Naruto Shippuden and One piece. And it's not controversial for them to be ftl+ to even higher.

And like I mentioned before I use The Prime All Might multiplier for speed because I believe that OFA is an all around stat increase. I use percentage increases as multipliers, So like going from 45% to 100% would be a 2.2222× multiplier for all stats. And I also use the the overdrive multiplier for speed too, since Gearshift and fa jin seem to be more closely related, and in the case of Gearshift inherently about, speed. So if anything the speed increase of using them would be higher than his AP increase so I believe it's more than fair.

The AP scaling is also that high because of the usage of different perspectives of common calcs like the storm dispersion in the second movie and the intercontinental missile punch. And I don't use the calculator for cloud weight this site does. Plus lots of other feats like The todoroki family storm and Nine in team up missions bringing up a storm so fast that Bakugo and Deku couldn't perceive. And a hypothetical feat from the vision Nine had in the movie of that massive storm seen from space, but I only use that as a high-ball.

There's some other feats too but not as note-worthy.
 
ShigarakiShimura said:
I know that sounds ridiculous but it's just how I scale them personally. I don't feel like ignoring all the light attacks, and the lasers. MHA definitely seems to have more light/laser dodging/reaction feats than series like Naruto Shippuden and One piece. And it's not controversial for them to be ftl+ to even higher.

And like I mentioned before I use The Prime All Might multiplier for speed because I believe that OFA is an all around stat increase. I use percentage increases as multipliers, So like going from 45% to 100% would be a 2.2222× multiplier for all stats. And I also use the the overdrive multiplier for speed too, since Gearshift and fa jin seem to be more closely related, and in the case of Gearshift inherently about, speed. So if anything the speed increase of using them would be higher than his AP increase so I believe it's more than fair.

The AP scaling is also that high because of the usage of different perspectives of common calcs like the storm dispersion in the second movie and the intercontinental missile punch. And I don't use the calculator for cloud weight this site does. Plus lots of other feats like The todoroki family storm and Nine in team up missions bringing up a storm so fast that Bakugo and Deku couldn't perceive. And a hypothetical feat from the vision Nine had in the movie of that massive storm seen from space, but I only use that as a high-ball.

There's some other feats too but not as note-worthy.
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Do you scale LS the same on site or do you have another method?

I'm very curious
 
Not to sure about the ap but the speed stuff shouldn't be TOO insane. They've had lasers and lightning since season 1. Dosen't that astronaut hero have black holes too
 
SuperStar said:
Do you scale LS the same on site or do you have another method?

I'm very curious
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Well obviously the LS would inherently be higher in my scale due to the Prine All Might multiplier and percentage increase multipliers. But I do also think I can get Shigaraki tilting the UA Fortress even higher, never got around to doing the calc tho.
 
ShigarakiShimura said:
I know that sounds ridiculous but it's just how I scale them personally. I don't feel like ignoring all the light attacks, and the lasers. MHA definitely seems to have more light/laser dodging/reaction feats than series like Naruto Shippuden and One piece. And it's not controversial for them to be ftl+ to even higher.

And like I mentioned before I use The Prime All Might multiplier for speed because I believe that OFA is an all around stat increase. I use percentage increases as multipliers, So like going from 45% to 100% would be a 2.2222× multiplier for all stats. And I also use the the overdrive multiplier for speed too, since Gearshift and fa jin seem to be more closely related, and in the case of Gearshift inherently about, speed. So if anything the speed increase of using them would be higher than his AP increase so I believe it's more than fair.

The AP scaling is also that high because of the usage of different perspectives of common calcs like the storm dispersion in the second movie and the intercontinental missile punch. And I don't use the calculator for cloud weight this site does. Plus lots of other feats like The todoroki family storm and Nine in team up missions bringing up a storm so fast that Bakugo and Deku couldn't perceive. And a hypothetical feat from the vision Nine had in the movie of that massive storm seen from space, but I only use that as a high-ball.

There's some other feats too but not as note-worthy.
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And all the calcs I use are either made by me or I helped in some way. So most likely you haven't seen the calcs I use if you think you have. I know there was a popular multi-continental calc for the storm dispersion but I don't use that one. Or that popular intercontinental missile punch calc.

Just saying this in case some of yall think I use long-debunked outdated calcs or something. The only problems this site would have with the calcs I use would be in some cases the cloud weight (I don't use the cloud weight calculator this site demands) and maybe like the perspective. I make sure there's nothing inherently wrong with the calcs, and I've changed them a lot over time.
 
Metalballrun said:
I personally have Deku at Low 2-C for containing a universe inside him. Everyone else scales of course.
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You're joking but this is legit how those Chinese Novel MCs begin. They have an inner world inside them like the Vestige World and then slowly but surely they start building it up by mastering laws or something. It might even start with simple elemental laws by mastering some elemental techniques.

Then their inner world slowly expands, gets actual earth, water, wind etc. And just step by step it expands into a planet, solar system, galaxy etc.

Before you know it, they've got an entire universe inside their bodies. And they are basically the god of that inner world.
 
There's definitely no mountains anywhere around Shinjuku where this fight should be happening.

According to Google, the closest mountain should be Mt Takao at 50 km away. Also as a mountain it would absolutely tower completely over any of the buildings as well as the floating UA no matter the distance.
 
ShigarakiShimura said:
Don't we know where they're fighting? Can't we go and find which mountains/hills/wahter those things correspond to irl?
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If we use Horikoshi's Map, the U.A. Fortress is right around the coast of Hamamatsu area.

Also I'd forgotten this, meaning they're actually over 100 km away from Mount Fuji, which is a far more impressive feat. Assuming a 5 second timeframe that means Shigaraki knocked Izuku away at a speed over Mach 50 instead, which is more impressive than the previous result I got.

This would be a range upgrade for Complete Shigaraki as it just reaches Hundreds of Kilometers.

In real life there are no mountains that are that close to the coast, though we clearly see mountains nearby during these shots. So it's likely Horikoshi is just drawing whatever, I mean it's his world if he wants to draw something he can draw it regardless of the reality.

Far simpler to use the U.A. Fortress instead of finding a mountain/hill that doesn't exist and he likely isn't even putting thought into as it's just background art.

U.A. Fortress = 645.27 m (53 px)

Shockwave Diameter = 1509.688 m (124 px)

Radius = 754.844 m

754.844^3*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2 = 34566 Tons of TNT

Individually = 17.283 Kilotons of TNT (Town level)
 
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ShigarakiShimura said:
Well since I'm the one that asked the question originally ig I should give my answer too.

I scale MHA (or more correctly Deku and Shigaraki) at at least Continental to Multi-Continental

And at least ftl to ftl+ speed.

That's like baseline, I wouldn't go lower than that

At a midball I would scale MHA at Multi-Continental to Moon level

With mftl to mftl+ speed

And a highball at Small-Planetary to Planetary

With mftl+ speed

Of course this is a highball so it's not where I would normally scale MHA. I normally scale them at Multi-Continental to Moon level with mftl+ speed. But I don't see it as wrong to scale them there.

And of course this is for the God tiers Deku and Shigaraki specifically.
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ShigarakiShimura said:
I know that sounds ridiculous but it's just how I scale them personally. I don't feel like ignoring all the light attacks, and the lasers. MHA definitely seems to have more light/laser dodging/reaction feats than series like Naruto Shippuden and One piece. And it's not controversial for them to be ftl+ to even higher.
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I was answering a question about Who can tank All Might's USS. And I realized, Dark Shadow has never once taken damage from any attack that isn't light based. And knowing where we are in the story, it never will (unless MHA gets a sequel).

Dark Shadow the undamaged champion of MHA.
 
57Dev said:
I was answering a question about Who can tank All Might's USS. And I realized, Dark Shadow has never once taken damage from any attack that isn't light based. And knowing where we are in the story, it never will (unless MHA gets a sequel).

Dark Shadow the undamaged champion of MHA.
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Slice damaged Dark Shadow with her needle hair and Chimera punched him away in Heroes Rising
 
57Dev said:
I was answering a question about Who can tank All Might's USS. And I realized, Dark Shadow has never once taken damage from any attack that isn't light based. And knowing where we are in the story, it never will (unless MHA gets a sequel).

Dark Shadow the undamaged champion of MHA.
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Ragnarok Womb got ripped apart by Deku like it was spaghetti.

In the manga, Moonfish was also able to stab through Dark Shadow even though it didn't take any damage.
 
What One Piece has over MHA is people specifying Lightspeed whenever a light based attack was used.

Like if Aoyama or the narrator mentioned his lasers were Lightspeed at every turn.

Or if Flect and Nine called their lasers Lightspeed.

Same for the American Jets and even AFO's cataclysmic light blast.

However, while there are several mentions of supersonic or faster than a bullet or faster than sound or transonic (shudder), Horikoshi never makes any direct reference to Lightspeed.
 
Gitagon said:
What One Piece has over MHA is people specifying Lightspeed whenever a light based attack was used.

Like if Aoyama or the narrator mentioned his lasers were Lightspeed at every turn.

Or if Flect and Nine called their lasers Lightspeed.

Same for the American Jets and even AFO's cataclysmic light blast.

However, while there are several mentions of supersonic or faster than a bullet or faster than sound or transonic (shudder), Horikoshi never makes any direct reference to Lightspeed.
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That and the databooks
 
Gitagon said:
What One Piece has over MHA is people specifying Lightspeed whenever a light based attack was used.

Like if Aoyama or the narrator mentioned his lasers were Lightspeed at every turn.

Or if Flect and Nine called their lasers Lightspeed.

Same for the American Jets and even AFO's cataclysmic light blast.

However, while there are several mentions of supersonic or faster than a bullet or faster than sound or transonic (shudder), Horikoshi never makes any direct reference to Lightspeed.
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Also author statement
 
Gitagon said:
What One Piece has over MHA is people specifying Lightspeed whenever a light based attack was used.

Like if Aoyama or the narrator mentioned his lasers were Lightspeed at every turn.

Or if Flect and Nine called their lasers Lightspeed.

Same for the American Jets and even AFO's cataclysmic light blast.

However, while there are several mentions of supersonic or faster than a bullet or faster than sound or transonic (shudder), Horikoshi never makes any direct reference to Lightspeed.
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Exactly, quite a few things are stated to be light speed, even stuff not related to light (Kuma's fruit, Sparking Valkyrie, and Henry Blazer), so OP is lucky Oda is quite generous with the Light speed stuff. Heck another Light speed thing is Foxy's slow slow beams since they fill every criteria to be EM Waves iirc.

Still surprised Hori still hasn't done a light speed feat or statement for the god tiers though (outside of maybe the 'law bending speed' of Gearshift).
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Exactly, quite a few things are stated to be light speed, even stuff not related to light (Kuma's fruit, Sparking Valkyrie, and Henry Blazer), so OP is lucky Oda is quite generous with the Light speed stuff. Heck another Light speed thing is Foxy's slow slow beams since they fill every criteria to be EM Waves iirc.

Still surprised Hori still hasn't done a light speed feat or statement for the god tiers though (outside of maybe the 'law bending speed' of Gearshift).
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I don't think MHA ever will get a statement like that tbh especially this late. Hell they even make breaking the sound barrier seem impressive still
 
Grand_Astartes said:
I don't think MHA ever will get a statement like that tbh especially this late. Hell they even make breaking the sound barrier seem impressive still
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Never say never my friend, Shigaraki might pull off an attack that has a light speed statement and Deku is able to dodge it (similar to Naruto dodging the light fang). The possibility is there, it's just whether Hori goes with it or not.
 
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