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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

I do not want to argue with anyone about this at least not here lol. If I came off as rude again I apologize, and I would much prefer the topic to move on because like I have said before this does not seem to be going in any direction appropriate for VSBW.:sneaky:
 
Getting around Mach 30 if I use a timeframe of 1 second.
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I believe the Sugarman 5x thing only applies to AP/Durability, not Lifting Strength
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It says for his Lifting Strength that he's 5 times weaker than in his Sugar Rush mode. Should that be changed then? If it really is 5 times weaker, then his Joint Training Arc key should say "At least Class 25" instead of Unknown since he's much stronger than before. That means he upscales from it which makes more sense than it saying Unknown
 
Wanted to end the convo there but literally yes no one is saying you cannot hold this view lmao. If this was supposed to be some jab at me saying it isn't objective then ??? okay?
You missed the point.
You're free to share your opinions, but if you lack objectivity then no one has the incentive to take anything you say seriously.

"So yeah let's not do that here"
If being simply told to stop elicits that kind of response then meh, that's on you.

"I lost braincells"
It's an expression of what I think of what you said, so you're actually free to feel whatever.
The meaning of the message is as clear as Maitreya being perfectly calm in their messages.

but if I am not allowed to have that interpretation and apologize
Literally nobody said this.
You're not being silenced just because your incorrect assumptions over someone's feelings was being corrected.

Opinions are perfectly fine here. Doesn't mean nobody will find them disagreeable and express that.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I will apologize for the manner of which I disagreed with you if that was deemed offensive.
 
Where do you think Immortal (Invincible) and Soldier Boy (the Boys) would stand in MHA?
If they were written into the story of MHA, then their power levels could be anything the author wants.
But that feels like a boring answer.

If their statistics remain, then Soldier Boy is a fodder and Immortal would be some high tier hero in MHA.
 
I will stand by what I said and just not respond to that here because I am certain it will just devolve. If there is anything further please go to my message wall so I may give contacts to discuss further. Again I apologize for any perceived hostility. Back to MHA 😼
 
He didn't blitz AFO who wasn't looking at him nor was he even aware Bakugo was coming at all.

Can't use frozen time unless I know what type of speed AFO was ripping All Might's body with.
He was staring forward, right at Bakugo, several times in the panels we see, and only notices his presence when his arms get chopped off. Unless he somehow missed the explosions and light show going off when Bakugo woke up and blasted to Deku then to him, especially when AFO can apparently hear things happening at UA since he blasted it to keep Gentle down. He can literally see Deku and Shigaraki fighting enough to use his Gloop quirk on Shigaraki, then flew even closer dragging All Might with him, there’s no way he would miss Bakugo blasting towards him unless he got blitzed.
 
I'm not implying AFO couldn't focus or see people from that distance, he just wasn't paying attention to anything else at the moment. He had no reason to believe or be aware that Bakugo had gotten back up and started moving towards him. I don't believe AFO could react to Gearshift considering Shigaraki couldn't either.

But distance is massively different. For example, Shigaraki is clearly reacting and moving while Bakugo is undergoing extreme speed that blitzed him previously. That's because the distance being traveled is greater. Nothing suggest he was blitzing AFO from when Izuku threw him and until he reached his location.

Izuku's feat against Shigaraki is vastly more impressive, since Shigaraki was in motion and was frozen in comparison to Izuku. AFO is frozen as well but he isn't going at full speed. He'd have to be moving at his full speed in order for us to use any Supersonic or higher speed.
 
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I'm not implying AFO couldn't focus or see people from that distance, he just wasn't paying attention to anything else at the moment. He had no reason to believe or be aware that Bakugo had gotten back up and started moving towards him. I don't believe AFO could react to Gearshift considering Shigaraki couldn't either.

But distance is massively different. For example, Shigaraki is clearly reacting and moving while Bakugo is undergoing extreme speed that blitzed him previously. That's because the distance being traveled is greater. Nothing suggest he was blitzing AFO from when Izuku threw him and until he reached his location.

Izuku's feat against Shigaraki is vastly more impressive, since Shigaraki was in motion and was frozen in comparison to Izuku. AFO is frozen as well but he isn't going at full speed. He'd have to be moving at his full speed in order for us to use any Supersonic or higher speed.
honestly using peak human still gives us high ass results so I don’t really see an issue
 
Thoughts about the chapter:

1) Everything Bakugou related peak fiction on god. Those smiles of his are goddamn killer here.

2) There’s a statement Midoriya makes about his fight with Shigaraki that’s just straight up bananas. He goes like “I still don’t know how to deal with his regeneration+instant death+enhanced strength…I only have one more gearshift before my body completely collapses, here I go!”

Bro’s literally been set up for failure by the story around him 😭🗿, power of wishes better come in clutch right about now because my boy Izuku NEEDS IT!

Also how has Shigaraki not broken free from Midoriya with one of his morbillion extra quirks? It’s been like half an hour since Eraser head has been removed from the battlefields
 
Thoughts about the chapter:

1) Everything Bakugou related peak fiction on god. Those smiles of his are goddamn killer here.

2) There’s a statement Midoriya makes about his fight with Shigaraki that’s just straight up bananas. He goes like “I still don’t know how to deal with his regeneration+instant death+enhanced strength…I only have one more gearshift before my body completely collapses, here I go!”

Bro’s literally been set up for failure by the story around him 😭🗿, power of wishes better come in clutch right about now because my boy Izuku NEEDS IT!

Also how has Shigaraki not broken free from Midoriya with one of his morbillion extra quirks? It’s been like half an hour since Eraser head has been removed from the battlefields
I have no ******* idea but I just want to actually watch Deku fight Shigaraki for God's sake. I get this other stuff is super important too but the biggest fight in the series has literally been offscreen for the majority of it and its starting to piss me off. Bakugo beating AFO's ass is a good distraction for it though so I won't be too annoyed as long as this fight continues being badass.
 
That'd only be Mach 380+ for a technique that came from the combined effort of Bakugo and Izuku.

Izuku's Gearshift against Shigaraki is several dozens times higher.
I'm still used to the "Sorry Mach 30 take it or leave it" Era of my hero calculations
 
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It says for his Lifting Strength that he's 5 times weaker than in his Sugar Rush mode. Should that be changed then? If it really is 5 times weaker, then his Joint Training Arc key should say "At least Class 25" instead of Unknown since he's much stronger than before. That means he upscales from it which makes more sense than it saying Unknown
Oh I remember now, it’s because due to his training, the boost from Sugar Rush could be greater than 5x, meaning scaling his base to 1/5 his Sugar Rush LS isn’t valid
 
Oh I remember now, it’s because due to his training, the boost from Sugar Rush could be greater than 5x, meaning scaling his base to 1/5 his Sugar Rush LS isn’t valid
Would it still be fine for his Joint Training Arc Lifting Strength to be "at least Class 25" due to upscaling then?
 
I don't think afo was talking prominence burn when he claim hell flame being superior to explosion.

Endeavour was doing well against afo even without using prominence burn. I think you are underestimating the blunt force that the todoroki's attacks carries because I certainly don't believe that you believe all the todoroki's attacks require their target to stay inside it for a short period of time before it badly damages their opponent's, if this where true then I believe people like ending would be dead by just tanking a hit from shoto.

Don't also forget the fact that afo has complimented shoto quirk twice despite him still seeing the capability of explosion, afo made an effort on dabi and I don't believe even horikoshi even believe explosions being to hell flame.
Sort of. But there are two different things going on regarding his statements.

One, he's obviously not impressed by "dark shadow" alone. He's impressed by its potential, and in the end, Tokoyami creates a massive kaiju capable of smashing him into the ground, forcing him to go all out. This isn't just the quirk itself, it's a specific scenario with the quirk. The same is true for Hellflame, as it's been made clear repeatedly, that prominence burn is what is required to vaporize someone like AFO, Hood, and Shigaraki. That is a specific move with a specific setup, that literally can take out anyone in MHA. However, it requires the target to be "stuck" within it.

Two, it actually seems like AFO is coping, or is trying to justify not spending any time on Bakugo. But he can't. As Bakugo is faster, is holding him back, and is speeding up his rewind. More on this soon.
 
What difference does it make
Let’s people know how strong it is/how far into a tier the result is in the most common and understandable metric which is tons of tnt? Without needing to copy paste and get the more reasonable number from google?

Saying “they scale to 18 Teratons” is easier than looking at the final result and saying “yeah they scale to 7.56729681112E22 joules.” Not telling you to but it absolutely makes the conclusion at lot easier to immediately understand. It’s just creating an unnecessary extra step for the viewer.
 
Let’s people know how strong it is/how far into a tier the result is in the most common and understandable metric which is tons of tnt? Without needing to copy paste and get the more reasonable number from google?

Saying “they scale to 18 Teratons” is easier than looking at the final result and saying “yeah they scale to 7.56729681112E22 joules.” Not telling you to but it absolutely makes the conclusion at lot easier to immediately understand. It’s just creating an unnecessary extra step for the viewer.
Yeah, this
 
Let’s people know how strong it is/how far into a tier the result is in the most common and understandable metric which is tons of tnt? Without needing to copy paste and get the more reasonable number from google?

Saying “they scale to 18 Teratons” is easier than looking at the final result and saying “yeah they scale to 7.56729681112E22 joules.” Not telling you to but it absolutely makes the conclusion at lot easier to immediately understand. It’s just creating an unnecessary extra step for the viewer.
Okay I added it
 
Heat energy =/= Attack Potency for the Todoroki’s, so they’re not 6-B just based off premise. Also you’re missing Endeavor’s Vanishing Fist punch barrage he did against AFO which would drastically lower the result depending on how many attacks he threw.
 
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