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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Season 6 Episode 5, once again this was another amazing episode. Episode ends with Shigaraki calling for Machia.

Shigaraki's decay starting up was wonderful, and I personally found this decay far better looking than what happened in Season 5. Being able to actually see the city itself break apart into pieces. They also showed stuff like X-Less destroying the machine (And dying) and Pixie-Bob being carried by Tiger after failing to stop the decay.

There's some new moments that are completely anime original. Woman fighting Endeavor and avoiding his Hell Spider, Mirko trying to get back up and asking Endeavor she could throw another kick at her. Gran Torino also started fighting Woman 1 v 1 for some time. Endeavor vs Woman was animated very well.

Season 6 is still showing wonderful promise. Shigaraki's awakening was just as destructive as I imagined it to be.

Gran Torino was able to destroy part of her head with his kick. Gran Torino's AP is on par with Mirko's?

Next episode preview is already looking great.
 
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My Hero Academia Season 6 be like:

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Bruh said:
Still don't understand why the anime bother to keep Shiggy hand purple
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The anime doing anime things. Granted it makes some sense. Super Regeneration can’t repair wounds that have already healed or scarred over just look at AFO so yeah Tomura’s hand should still look messed up if he recovered before he underwent treatment and gained super regen.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Season 6 Episode 5, once again this was another amazing episode. Episode ends with Shigaraki calling for Machia.

Shigaraki's decay starting up was wonderful, and I personally found this decay far better looking than what happened in Season 5. Being able to actually see the city itself break apart into pieces. They also showed stuff like X-Less destroying the machine (And dying) and Pixie-Bob being carried by Tiger after failing to stop the decay.

There's some new moments that are completely anime original. Woman fighting Endeavor and avoiding his Hell Spider, Mirko trying to get back up and asking Endeavor she could throw another kick at her. Gran Torino also started fighting Woman 1 v 1 for some time. Endeavor vs Woman was animated very well.

Season 6 is still showing wonderful promise. Shigaraki's awakening was just as destructive as I imagined it to be.

Gran Torino was able to destroy part of her head with his kick. Gran Torino's AP is on par with Mirko's?

Next episode preview is already looking great.
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Yeah this episode was great

Still not a fan of the slight over-reliance of still frames... As a Fairy Tail fan, they give me PTSD
 
Not done with the episode but Gran Torino get revised? He drew blood from a High End, and sent Woman flying with a kick and also destroyed part of her brain
 
No, regenerating varying degree of brain damage can be achieve with Low-Mid and Mid. If the Nomu regenerated from a piece of its brain then that'll be High-mid
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Yeah this episode was great

Still not a fan of the slight over-reliance of still frames... As a Fairy Tail fan, they give me PTSD
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The still frames during the moment where Shigaraki was awake, right before his decay started, I think were done well.

And I think that is the perfect time to use still frames, as if the world itself was frozen.
Mazdoesstuff said:
Also if the Nomu can regenerate brain damage shouldn’t that be High-Mid?
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High-Mid: "The ability to regenerate from being blown/cut to pieces, brain included, or from a small piece of the user's body, such as a finger, or the heart."

However they've always been able to regenerate from some brain damage though. This damage Woman took is the same as in the manga. But regenerating limited brain damage is just Low-Mid. "The ability to regenerate lost limbs, limited brain damage, and even severe organ damage or destruction, including traditionally fatal wounds and disembowelment or horizontal bisection."

Since the entire brain being destroyed or blown to pieces is confirmed to kill them.
 
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InvisibleInternetMan said:
So what do you guys think about Shindo scaling to Muscular, at least partially?
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Should work.
He could damage muscular, who was clearly using more fibers against Yo shindo than he was when he took the first 100% smash, and forced him to use even more fibers after he realized he was actually taking some damage from the attack, worrying it would penetrate his armor and reach his actual body.
You should probably make a CRT.
 
If Nine could withstand both 100% Deku and Bakugou attacking him at the same time, should he downscale to baseline High 7-A?

Keep in mind that the same combined attack from Deku and Bakugou was the storm punch that was 7-A+ (748 MT) for both of them. The shockwave in total was 1.49 GT or High 7-A, so the combined attack should be roughly as powerful.
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
If Nine could withstand both 100% Deku and Bakugou attacking him at the same time, should he downscale to baseline High 7-A?

Keep in mind that the same combined attack from Deku and Bakugou was the storm punch that was 7-A+ (748 MT) for both of them. The shockwave in total was 1.49 GT or High 7-A, so the combined attack should be roughly as powerful.
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This is also incorporating the fact that Nine took direct hits from them, which should be much stronger than their 7-A+ shockwaves
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
If Nine could withstand both 100% Deku and Bakugou attacking him at the same time, should he downscale to baseline High 7-A?

Keep in mind that the same combined attack from Deku and Bakugou was the storm punch that was 7-A+ (748 MT) for both of them. The shockwave in total was 1.49 GT or High 7-A, so the combined attack should be roughly as powerful.
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Imagine this mental image. Character A and character B combine their attacks to cancel out the force of a giant meteor, the meteor didn't get destroyed but its force was nullified. In this case A/B's AP= Meteor's AP÷2, but if the meteor was destroyed in a big grand explosion then A/B's AP=Explosion's AP÷2, whatever value the meteor'AP scales to is up to debate. The storm explosion in Heroes Rising falls in the latter not the former. I imagine this is the case with Wolfram's Giant cube that All might and Deku punched, they not only cancel it but destroyed it completely as well with their combined attacked. If both of our fists clash but yours exploded on contact, do your AP scale to mine ? At least that's my personal reasoning
 
Bruh said:
Imagine this mental image. Character A and character B combine their attacks to cancel out the force of a giant meteor, the meteor didn't get destroyed but its force was nullified. In this case A/B's AP= Meteor's AP÷2, but if the meteor was destroyed in a big grand explosion then A/B's AP=Explosion's AP÷2, whatever value the meteor'AP scales to is up to debate. The storm explosion in Heroes Rising falls in the latter not the former. I imagine this is the case with Wolfram's Giant cube that All might and Deku punched, they not only cancel it but destroyed it completely as well with their combined attacked. If both of our fists clash but yours exploded on contact, do your AP scale to mine ? At least that's my personal reasoning
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Ngl I don’t understand anything in this paragraph
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
If Nine could withstand both 100% Deku and Bakugou attacking him at the same time, should he downscale to baseline High 7-A?
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No.

Nine isn't scaling above 100%, they were clearly too much for him. The only reason they needed two OFA's to beat him was his storm, which overpowered a single 100%. That isn't enough to upscale to High 7-A and Nine's other ratings don't scale to his storm, he's clearly inferior. Honestly I feel like it's safe to say that if you took away his storm, 100% Full Cowl Izuku would be able to beat Nine by himself.

Without his storm he has no reason to be above 100%. Taking hits from two characters doesn't mean you scale above them. By this logic the USJ Nomu should be far above High 7-A for taking over 300 hits from All Might, which is WAY more than what Nine took. But we don't do that because that is not how that works.

Literally nothing in the movie show's Nine as being superior to 100% without his storm. When the storm was blown away they were clearly overwhelming him individually. They never even launched a combined attack against him, instead they took turns attacking. Even their last attack was one after the other.
 
Can someone remind me the upscaling rule of this wiki and how we treat multiple layers of upscale
 
Bruh said:
Can someone remind me the upscaling rule of this wiki and how we treat multiple layers of upscale
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I don't think there is a hard rule. Just case by case stuff. "It is possible for a character who is depicted as vastly superior to another in a statistic to be placed in a tier above the other, given that the other character is close to the the next tier. However, this ultimately needs to be decided through case-by-case analysis."

However I believe that multiple layers of upscaling is worthless for tier jumping. If you couldn't upscale to the next tier via one shotting someone, then you aren't upscaling to the next tier with 10 layers of one shotting people.

Basically I'm very certain that a 400 Gigaton character (High 6-C) will never upscale to 1000 Gigatons (Low 6-B), not without an actual multiplier.
 
Low 6-B is a no go.

However there are multiple calcs that may upgrade them to High 6-C in the future. However we're still waiting before making any CRT on this stuff.

Star and Stripe's Fist Bump to the Earth = 134.01 Gigatons of TNT (Large Island level)

100% Joint Training Arc's Air Pressure = 122.08 Gigatons of TNT (Large Island level)

Star and Stripe's Intercontinental Punch = 3.32 Teratons of TNT (Small Country level)
 
A direct hit from a healthy 100% JT Deku scaling to 332GT is pretty reasonable considering the 122GT one was air pressure from a weakened state
 
So JT 100%(332GT) < Current 100%/Primes < Fajin < Fajin + Overdrive and we still can't reach 550GT for High 6-C+ ? Sadge
 
It seems we are getting speed feats more than anything. Hope either Deku or Shiggy would vaporize the entire floating fortress with an attack or smth
 
Horikoshi should really add some more confirmed multiplier for some of the stats enhancing quirks and techniques. Aside from Sugar rush and Lover mode, 2 irrelevant quirks I don't think there are any other stated multiplier
 
I can see it now, AFO kept a copy of Overclock and use it highest version to keep up with Overdrive Deku and we can finally have a multiplier for Gear shift. Yep definitely not copium
 
Anyone else expecting Stain to appear and do a huge Kamina speech to make the heteromorph's shift sides?
 
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